2d Game Engine

Camerous · 01-24-2009, 07:54 PM

Anyone got any suggestions? I have tried both Game editor and Game Maker and I don't like their interfaces... any one used another that was good? I want to make a FF2 sorta game... basic sprites and graphics but with a great story. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Faille · 01-24-2009, 10:14 PM

wouldn't mind knowing a 2d engine as well, preferably web based. was thinking of trying Unity to see if that suits my purposes.

Camerous · 01-24-2009, 10:31 PM

So far all I have found that is even remotely decent is RPG Maker XP. Easy to work with and decent but the community that supports it is just like the sphere community where you have thousands of dumb asses who don't know shit and just a few people who do know what they are doing and those people don't share anything with anyone unless they get their asses kissed and worshiped like a god... so I am trying to learn all the ends and outs on my own.

Here is the download of it.. has a free month trial to see if it is what you want. RPG Maker XP

There is a new version of it, RPG Maker VX, but from what I have read it is not as good as this one. Haven't tried it yet.

Laven · 01-25-2009, 06:50 PM

my favorite 2d game ive played online is graal classic (GraalOnline - Playerworlds - Features) always wanted someone to make it more rpg instead of pvp based cause well the zelda gfx just own.

Hachima · 01-26-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Faille

wouldn't mind knowing a 2d engine as well, preferably web based. was thinking of trying Unity to see if that suits my purposes.

I like Unity but it is also a 3D engine. They do give you a tutorial for a 2D side scroller game which is actually a 3D game but the camera is used to give it the feel of a 2D side scroller. Development can only be done on the Mac but they just recently announced version 2.5 which will be for the PC also.

x1hundredregrets · 01-26-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

Anyone got any suggestions? I have tried both Game editor and Game Maker and I don't like their interfaces... any one used another that was good? I want to make a FF2 sorta game... basic sprites and graphics but with a great story. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

How skilled are you at programming? You quoted Game Editor and Game Maker, both of which are UI/Scripting design tools. This might help people in recommending game engines. Even Unity has a bit of a steep learning curve because its scripting languages are actually just refactored programming languages (C#/Java/Boo).

Camerous · 01-26-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by x1hundredregrets

How skilled are you at programming? You quoted Game Editor and Game Maker, both of which are UI/Scripting design tools. This might help people in recommending game engines. Even Unity has a bit of a steep learning curve because its scripting languages are actually just refactored programming languages (C#/Java/Boo).

I can learn anything if I like the product I am working with. If you know one that will produce a FF2 style game please suggest it and I will check it out. I know BASIC, some C++, and some C#.

Faille · 01-29-2009, 07:26 PM

looked into Torque X 2.0 ?

should do what you're after, though probably need more programming skills to do it.

Camerous · 01-29-2009, 09:11 PM

yeah I have tried that before.. it is way too advanced for what i want. I don't want any 3d graphics or anything like that. All I want is to make an overhead RPG like FF2. I am still playing with RPG XP but it doesn't seem to be able to do all I want it to do... or maybe I am just not using it in the right way. It seems very limited in it's ability at story telling which is my main focus.

Laladilya · 01-29-2009, 10:04 PM

RM2003 might fit what you need better than RMXP does. It has side-view battle system, overworld map where you can designate "areas" of a map for random encounters, has vehicles, faceset graphics, more dialogue options than RMXP has - I think it even plays AVI's. It's not as pretty as RMXP/VX and has no scripting support - but it's better than most of the others to make a SNES type of FF. Only part that's kinda difficult would be setting up certain special commands like "Jump" or something... still possible though.

Faille · 01-29-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

yeah I have tried that before.. it is way too advanced for what i want. I don't want any 3d graphics or anything like that. All I want is to make an overhead RPG like FF2. I am still playing with RPG XP but it doesn't seem to be able to do all I want it to do... or maybe I am just not using it in the right way. It seems very limited in it's ability at story telling which is my main focus.

I mean the 2D verion of Torque X. Not sure how different it is but is aimed more towards over head games and side scrollers, etc. Probably still more then you're after.

Camerous · 01-30-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Laladilya

RM2003 might fit what you need better than RMXP does. It has side-view battle system, overworld map where you can designate "areas" of a map for random encounters, has vehicles, faceset graphics, more dialogue options than RMXP has - I think it even plays AVI's. It's not as pretty as RMXP/VX and has no scripting support - but it's better than most of the others to make a SNES type of FF. Only part that's kinda difficult would be setting up certain special commands like "Jump" or something... still possible though.

I'll give it a try. Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by Faille

I mean the 2D verion of Torque X. Not sure how different it is but is aimed more towards over head games and side scrollers, etc. Probably still more then you're after.

Ah I didn't see a 2d version.. I'll have to check it out too. Thanks. :-)

Ziggurat · 01-30-2009, 08:06 PM

EA LA just released "Angel" a 2D game prototyping engine. You can check it out and it's documentation here: angel-engine - Google Code

This may be a little to technical for what you are looking for though

Camerous · 02-02-2009, 11:43 PM

Just a little up date... I am using the RPG Maker VX and so far it is the best 2d engine I have found. I love the ease of use but it is so versatile that I can do all I want and still haven't reached the the max of this program. I highly recommend it.

Laladilya · 02-03-2009, 04:44 AM

VX is what I'm using also. The mapping system is pretty crippled from earlier versions which is my primary gripe with it. Overall though, it's the least "clunky" feeling one so far I think. If it had a side-view battle system and rmxp's mapping system I think it'd be perfect. You can always bypass those limits with scripts, but it's always harder since you can't modify the editor GUI at all :/

Same company is making Action Game Maker now... not much info released on it yet, but I guess it will be able to export to Flash and even XNA as well as the typical standalone. More for Zelda or sidescroller games than jRPG's though.

01-24-2009, 07:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	2d Game Engine Anyone got any suggestions? I have tried both Game editor and Game Maker and I don't like their interfaces... any one used another that was good? I want to make a FF2 sorta game... basic sprites and graphics but with a great story. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

01-24-2009, 10:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Faille Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,364 +25 Internets	wouldn't mind knowing a 2d engine as well, preferably web based. was thinking of trying Unity to see if that suits my purposes. __________________ Faille Fires of Heaven http://www.fohguild.org/forums/uberw...lopment-forum/

01-24-2009, 10:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	So far all I have found that is even remotely decent is RPG Maker XP. Easy to work with and decent but the community that supports it is just like the sphere community where you have thousands of dumb asses who don't know shit and just a few people who do know what they are doing and those people don't share anything with anyone unless they get their asses kissed and worshiped like a god... so I am trying to learn all the ends and outs on my own. Here is the download of it.. has a free month trial to see if it is what you want. RPG Maker XP There is a new version of it, RPG Maker VX, but from what I have read it is not as good as this one. Haven't tried it yet. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

01-29-2009, 07:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Faille Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,364 +25 Internets	looked into Torque X 2.0 ? should do what you're after, though probably need more programming skills to do it. __________________ Faille Fires of Heaven http://www.fohguild.org/forums/uberw...lopment-forum/

01-29-2009, 09:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	yeah I have tried that before.. it is way too advanced for what i want. I don't want any 3d graphics or anything like that. All I want is to make an overhead RPG like FF2. I am still playing with RPG XP but it doesn't seem to be able to do all I want it to do... or maybe I am just not using it in the right way. It seems very limited in it's ability at story telling which is my main focus. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

01-29-2009, 10:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Laladilya ... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salina, KS Posts: 203 +24 Internets	RM2003 might fit what you need better than RMXP does. It has side-view battle system, overworld map where you can designate "areas" of a map for random encounters, has vehicles, faceset graphics, more dialogue options than RMXP has - I think it even plays AVI's. It's not as pretty as RMXP/VX and has no scripting support - but it's better than most of the others to make a SNES type of FF. Only part that's kinda difficult would be setting up certain special commands like "Jump" or something... still possible though. Last edited by Laladilya; 01-29-2009 at 10:08 PM..

01-30-2009, 08:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ziggurat Oldschool Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 345 +5 Internets	EA LA just released "Angel" a 2D game prototyping engine. You can check it out and it's documentation here: angel-engine - Google Code This may be a little to technical for what you are looking for though

02-02-2009, 11:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	Just a little up date... I am using the RPG Maker VX and so far it is the best 2d engine I have found. I love the ease of use but it is so versatile that I can do all I want and still haven't reached the the max of this program. I highly recommend it. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

02-03-2009, 04:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Laladilya ... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salina, KS Posts: 203 +24 Internets	VX is what I'm using also. The mapping system is pretty crippled from earlier versions which is my primary gripe with it. Overall though, it's the least "clunky" feeling one so far I think. If it had a side-view battle system and rmxp's mapping system I think it'd be perfect. You can always bypass those limits with scripts, but it's always harder since you can't modify the editor GUI at all :/ Same company is making Action Game Maker now... not much info released on it yet, but I guess it will be able to export to Flash and even XNA as well as the typical standalone. More for Zelda or sidescroller games than jRPG's though.

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