[NBA] 2009-2010 Season

[Mario Speedwagon]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccck man....

Absolutely brutal. The sad part is I have little doubt that almost all of that is true because it lines up and explains so well the reality of so many of those situations.

[Araxen]

The NBA is dirty. I have no doubts about it. They almost got busted during that Kings/Lakers series but that Congressman backed off.

[kcxiv]

I was so hoping that the NBA wouldnt come to an agreement with the NBA ref's. I want them to just start over fresh.

NBA needs all new ref's time to cut all of them off.

[Mario Speedwagon]

Holy shit did anyone see the end of Bulls/Nuggets game just now?

[Ancalagon]

No, details.

[Mario Speedwagon]

Bulls down by one, .3 seconds left. They inbound to Brad Miller who just tosses it from the top of the key and it fucking goes in. They spend 5 minutes reviewing probably the closet basketball review I've ever seen and take the basket away.

You literally could not tell if he go the shot off in time from 5 different angles in frame by frame slow motion. It was insanely close.

[Genjiro]

Originally Posted by Gilgamel

Hmmmmm.

Worth a read if you're even remotely interested in the NBA.

This is the reason the NBA is shit and I don't watch it. Every fan who watched the NBA growing up knew it was bad, how the star treatment went, but this just really shows it not even slight favoritism, but all out cheating and fixing. No wonder Stern doesnt want people reading this shit.

[Ham n Cheese]

you can hear what Stern says about it on hr1 of Dp last week,
http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/danpatri...009_stream.mp3

[Genjiro]

Yea, if anything, Sterns very generic response leads me to think that there is a lot of smoke here that will lead to a lot more fire.

[Kasi]

It's really fun to watch the Suns again.

[Ham n Cheese]

speaking of last nights game. byron scott = fired

[Jebaz]

Originally Posted by Kasi

It's really fun to watch the Suns again.

Gonna be fun to watch the Laker's beat them today. Oh ya I'm calling it.

[Kasi]

Not really a surprise there. Lakers are the better team, plus the Suns were gassed from that brutal east coast trip. Rough start to the year, playing Boston, Orlando, Lakers and Miami all in the first 10 games. I'll be interested to see how their next game goes, when both are more on an even playing field. (Pau should be back then too)

[Jovec]

Originally Posted by PatrickStar

Dude...

Like dude. Seriously...dude. *shakes head*

I stopped halfway through the excerpt. I love the NBA, more than any other league. Fuck I read Bill Simmons entire book in two days.

Dude...its like knowing for years your girlfriend has been banging your best friend. You saw the clues and you just kept telling yourself you had no real proof so you blissfully kept the relationship going. But in your heart you knew it was true. Then you finally catch her in a lie. Then after denial after denial after denial...she cracks. She confesses. And the last 23 years of your life was just a fucking farce.

Was the 85, 94, 03 lottery rigged?
Did those Sactown, Portland and Phoenix teams get jobbed?
Did the 06 Mavs get screwed out of a ring?
Did Stern force MJ to go on a 18 month sabbatical?
How many franchises and careers have forever been changed?

*shakes head*

Donaghy is just trying to make money while sending a "Fuck You" to Stern. His evidence and citations seem to lack context and analysis. Dick Bavetta apparently can't keep his mouth shut since Donaghy seems to be his personal confessor. Or how about a team with nothing to gain (Dever) being blown out by a team needing to win to make the playoffs (Spurs) - ref manipulation or one team playing as hard as they can while the other doesn't give a shit and just wants to rest and not get injured. I'm surprised Donaghy isn't taking credit for starting the Pacers/Pistons brawl.

I have no doubt that star players get calls, etc., but I always laugh when 2002 LAL/SAC Game 6 comes up.

Lakers/Kings game 6: 40 FTA for LA to 25 FTA for the Kings, but Shaq was in his prime and got fouled on nearly every play. Personal fouls were 24 against LA to 31 against the Kings, but again, Shaq was in his prime. Coaches would send in the 2nd and 3rd string Center/PF to intentionally foul and send Mr. 50% to the line. A +7 PF advantage is not that unexpected considering Shaq. Hell, Scott Pollard and Lawrence Thunderburke averaged 1 foul per 2 minutes guarding Shaq because they wrapped him up everytime he got the ball.

And no one seems to mention game 5 (Kings won by 1). PF were 27 against LA to 20 against the Kings. Again, did Shaq not play? In a close game they aren't sending Shaq to the line intentionally? Rick Adleman invented Hack-a-Shaq. And let's not forget that after Bibby hit the game winning jumper with something like 8 or 10 seconds left on the clock, he absolutely mugged Kobe on his final shot and there was no call - literally pulled Kobe's shirt out of his shorts on that last play.

If game 6 was pro-LA, game 5 was pro-Kings. Divac, Pollard and Thunderburke (DNP) only had 3 personal fouls guarding Shaq for the 32 minutes he was on the floor in game 5, but those three players had 15 over 44 minutes in game 6. 1 foul per 3 minutes might seem excessive, but intentional/hard fouls against Shaq were the norm back then.

[Ham n Cheese]

Yeah people are too quick to believe everything he says because people want to believe it due to how much the officiating in the NBA has been under question lately. I don't understand why if you think they set up the finals the Pistons or Spurs would ever be in the finals.

I don't mean to say I think they're all false. Things like 'the first foul' excerpt seem totally plausible to me. And of course if you ref in a league long enough you're going to have players you dislike and players you do like.