2009 NFL Season Discussion

AtwaKom · 07-28-2009, 02:13 PM

As mentioned, it's time. Discuss.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

As for some discussion, where do we think Vick is headed? First guess should be the Raiders but I'm hearing Jacksonville a lot now.

Ham n Cheese · 07-28-2009, 02:35 PM

It's hard for me to imagine any team giving Vick a chance anytime soon, due to the press that follows it. I think it could be mid-season before he gets onto a practice squad, but never underestimate the desperation to win from these coaches.

jaybee · 07-28-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

It's hard for me to imagine any team giving Vick a chance anytime soon, due to the press that follows it. I think it could be mid-season before he gets onto a practice squad, but never underestimate the desperation to win from these coaches.

Hmm, could he wind up in Minn? Him and AP running a wildcat offense?

Ham n Cheese · 07-28-2009, 03:16 PM

Minn already has a Vick type runner in Jackson, I don't know why they would need him. Especially now that they have Harvin, someone familiar with the wildcat.

edit: breaking news on ESPN is reporting Favre will stay retired

Alamando · 07-28-2009, 03:52 PM

GO CARDINALS!

That is all.

Moontayle · 07-28-2009, 04:07 PM

Minnesota coach Brad Childress says Brett Favre won't play for Vikings - NFL - SI.com

Zhaun's_Shade · 07-28-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

edit: breaking news on ESPN is reporting Favre will stay retired

And there was much rejoycing.

So what off-season stuff happened to the Patriots to make people think they're only going to be at 68%?

Urlithani · 07-28-2009, 04:47 PM

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So what off-season stuff happened to the Patriots to make people think they're only going to be at 68%?

Only 68% win percentage? That's close to 11-5.

Well the QB had a major injury, and the LB corps is not very deep. Playcaller Josh McDaniels, who was OC during Brady's 50 TD season is gone. The O-line allowed 48 sacks last season (yes some can be attributed to Cassel). Their run blocking is great though. They have the 2nd toughest schedule(if you buy Strength of Schedule based on last years record), with Baltimore, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Carolina, Atlanta and New Orleans.

I'd say only 68% is pretty good. If it was any other team with those problems all the experts would have pegged them .500 or worse.

Shutup · 07-28-2009, 05:21 PM

This just in, the Saints are winning the sooper bowl this year.

AtwaKom · 07-28-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutup

This just in, the Saints are winning the sooper bowl this year.

I'm a sucker for hypotheticals.

AFC -

East - Patriots
West - Chargers
North - Steelers
South - Colts
Wildcard - Texans, Dolphins

NFC -

East - Eagles
West - Cardinals
North - Bears
South - Saints
Wildcard - Vikings, Cowboys

AFC Championship - Patriots vs. Texans / NFC Championship - Eagles vs. Saints

Super Bowl - Patriots vs. Eagles

Pats win.

Zhaun's_Shade · 07-28-2009, 05:38 PM

"Texans"? Is that a real team? *duck*

A Patriots super bowl would be pretty amazing. The NFL would probably start only allowing them 10 guys on the field in 2010-2011.

Moontayle · 07-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Philadelphia Eagles assistant Jim Johnson dead at 68 - NFL - SI.com

RIP Jim Johnson

Draegan · 07-28-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Moontayle

Philadelphia Eagles assistant Jim Johnson dead at 68 - NFL - SI.com

RIP Jim Johnson

Holy Shit.

RIP. Much respect.

arkk123 · 07-28-2009, 07:22 PM

I was just gonna post that about Jim Johnson. RIP indeed.

psu199 · 07-28-2009, 07:35 PM

Knew he wasn't doing well, but this snuck up on us a little bit. RIP for sure.

He was one of those long time assistants that often got talked about as much as a head coach. Any real football fan has heard the phrase "A Jim Johnson Defense" dozens of times.

Maybe this will give the Birds an extra something to play for this year. Of course, by week 6 when our defense is ranked 4th in the league, we're going to all be sick of the bullshit Pam Oliver interviews about how they're "Doing this for JJ."

Ugh I just made myself angry.

07-28-2009, 02:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
AtwaKom Flew too close to the sun on wings of Pastrami Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Bay, So Cal Posts: 574 +8 Internets	2009 NFL Season Discussion As mentioned, it's time. Discuss. Spoiler Alert, click show to read: WHATIFSPORTS NFL POWER RANKINGS RK Team CHG Win PCT PS/G PA/G 1 Eagles - 73.6% 23.4 15.3 2 Patriots - 68.3% 25.7 19.2 3 Giants - 67.9% 23.8 17.5 4 Steelers - 66.3% 21.3 15.6 5 Cowboys 2 63.8% 25.8 20.9 6 Vikings - 63.6% 26.4 21.5 7 Saints 1 63.3% 27.3 22.6 8 Dolphins 2 62.9% 22.5 18.2 9 Cardinals 4 62.7% 24.8 20.5 10 Chargers 1 62.5% 25.7 21.6 11 Texans - 59.9% 25.3 21.9 12 Colts 2 59.2% 23.4 20.7 13 Redskins - 57.7% 19.7 17.0 14 Panthers 2 57.6% 24.5 21.8 15 Titans - 53.6% 22.3 20.7 16 Falcons 1 53.2% 24.8 23.4 17 Jets 1 52.3% 20.6 19.4 18 Bills - 46.4% 23.6 24.4 19 Packers - 46.4% 21.5 22.8 20 Bears 1 45.6% 20.4 21.8 21 49ers 3 44.8% 20.3 22.0 22 Ravens 2 44.4% 19.6 21.2 23 Buccaneers 2 43.0% 23.1 25.2 24 Chiefs 1 43.0% 21.0 23.1 25 Bengals 3 42.3% 21.4 23.9 26 Seahawks - 38.7% 19.0 23.0 27 Raiders - 37.1% 21.3 25.7 28 Jaguars - 30.3% 20.1 26.7 29 Lions 1 27.4% 19.4 27.3 30 Broncos 1 26.3% 21.1 29.3 31 Rams - 20.2% 18.3 30.0 32 Browns - 15.7% 17.3 30.9 As for some discussion, where do we think Vick is headed? First guess should be the Raiders but I'm hearing Jacksonville a lot now.

07-28-2009, 02:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese The sky calls to us Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 12,422 +58 Internets	It's hard for me to imagine any team giving Vick a chance anytime soon, due to the press that follows it. I think it could be mid-season before he gets onto a practice squad, but never underestimate the desperation to win from these coaches. __________________

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Ham n Cheese The sky calls to us Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 12,422 +58 Internets	Minn already has a Vick type runner in Jackson, I don't know why they would need him. Especially now that they have Harvin, someone familiar with the wildcat. edit: breaking news on ESPN is reporting Favre will stay retired __________________ Last edited by Ham n Cheese; 07-28-2009 at 03:48 PM..

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Alamando Formidable Armored Bear Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,222 +26 Internets	Obligatory Comedy Option GO CARDINALS! That is all. __________________ A sentence is worth a thousand words.

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Moontayle Brilliant! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,820	Minnesota coach Brad Childress says Brett Favre won't play for Vikings - NFL - SI.com

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Zhaun's_Shade Death Panel Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,633 -7 Internets	"Texans"? Is that a real team? duck A Patriots super bowl would be pretty amazing. The NFL would probably start only allowing them 10 guys on the field in 2010-2011.

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Moontayle Brilliant! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,820	Philadelphia Eagles assistant Jim Johnson dead at 68 - NFL - SI.com RIP Jim Johnson

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arkk123 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 885 -72 Internets	I was just gonna post that about Jim Johnson. RIP indeed.

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psu199 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,027 +14 Internets	Knew he wasn't doing well, but this snuck up on us a little bit. RIP for sure. He was one of those long time assistants that often got talked about as much as a head coach. Any real football fan has heard the phrase "A Jim Johnson Defense" dozens of times. Maybe this will give the Birds an extra something to play for this year. Of course, by week 6 when our defense is ranked 4th in the league, we're going to all be sick of the bullshit Pam Oliver interviews about how they're "Doing this for JJ." Ugh I just made myself angry.