2009 NFL Season Discussion

[Twobit Whore]

Chambers to the Chiefs? LOL.. I mean SD may not be going anywhere, but at least you had hope... but now, ouch.

[meStevo]

He's 31 and been underperforming for a while, if he can't at least show flashes of productivity with a WR-centric head coach calling the plays it could be the last team he plays or at least starts for (if he gets that far with the Chiefs).

And lol @ getting negative rep because I agree people who took a banned substance should be punished. Can't win an argument, so belittle the poster instead, you winner you.

[Grimmlokk]

Just for those of you who love Gruden/Jaws and their QB fellating so much.

NFL Experts Will Not Rest Until Every Quarterback Leads The League In Something Retarded - Nfl - Deadspin

[Adam12]

This is usually preceded by something along the lines of, "To be a (position here) in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE," These guys, when I look at them, I tell you what, they might just be fucking retarded.

Hahahaha, I've been saying this shit for years!

[Gilgamel]

Go deep DHB!!!!

[Ham n Cheese]

fucking RL lol

[Grimmlokk]

Blinking is too much work for JaMarcus

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[Genjiro]

I wonder if Ryan Clark will play at Denver. For those who dont know, last time we played there in 07, he almost died after the game because of the altitude and a rare sickle cell trait. Lost 30 lb, and missed the rest of the year after they had to remove his spleen and gall bladder from that. I seriously hope Tomlin doesnt let him play if he wants to, those guys have a tough guy persona that many would stupidly risk their lives to protect--esp Clark who prides himself as a big hitter. Nobody has said yet, and I sincerely hope its just a gamesmanship thing where its already been decided by the Steelers that he isnt allowed to play.

There really should be an independent board of physicians for the NFL that take some health decisions (like life threatening ones) out of the hands of team doctors anyways.

[Cathan]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

It's a big play defense. They bend, not break on yardage but they can turn any normal play into 6 points for us. Granted you can't rely on that to make all the difference, the offense is quite capable of rapid fire scoring to get back in any game.

I don't think our defense is going to cost us as much as Brees just having an bad game will. The D can keep us in games, or even get us back in them. The offense just needs to be able to put it away.

The game looked a lot closer than it was last night imo. Take away that fluke Brees pummeling for a TD and it's 28-7 at half and Atlanta probably struggles to even get back in it. That's not something that is going to happen often. That fumble late when we should have been taking a knee was all on the coaches and I think they learn from that as well.

In the end, I don't give two shits about trying to go undefeated. Just win me 13 games and make the road to the Super Bowl go through the Superdome.

The only reason I bring up the whole idea of an undefeated season is because I'm trying to figure out who will beat us.

I don't buy that New England will do it as some absolute... That's potentially the hardest game we'll play but as others mentioned Falcons at home and Carolina can be tough opponents.

Patriots still look off to me from what they were a few years back. It'll be a good game but if the Saints show up in full force I say they're heavily favored.

One thing I like about the Saints right now is they're adjusting fairly well in problem areas, capitalizing on what's working and Brees instantaneous recovery from throwing interceptions. Brees vs. the Falcons was the worst game he's had all season and he still came right back out there on the field ready to put it in the endzone again.

Our passing game against the Falcons was stellar. Our receiving crew made some phenomenal catches. The run game was stalled a bit and that worries me a little. We had some good breakaway runs but quite a few just ended up held to a yard or a short loss and forced a pass attempt on 3rd down...

Saints D doesn't hold many teams to a small number of points either. I really hope they focus on more 3 and outs. Last thing I want to be is another Indy with a weak defense making them a 1 dimensional team...

[Frax]

Originally Posted by Moontayle

Plus, Goodell is right in that the Williams' ability to essentially opt out of that provision of the CBA simply because they're in Minnesota sets a very bad precedent. Since the NFL is a national organization, all athletes need to be subject to the same rules.

Sadly state laws are pushed aside more and more in favor of some idea that federal law should be more desireable. Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave.

Also, fuck Jamarcus Russell, I can't wait till they cut his fat, worse than Ryan Leaf ass:

[Mario Speedwagon]

Damn that shit is baller yo.

[Frax]

Originally Posted by Mario Speedwagon

Damn that shit is baller yo.

it is, too bad he is not.

[Regime]

Originally Posted by Frax

it is, too bad he is not.

You may have beat us this year, but than I remembered our owner is not Al Davis.

May he live forever....

[Gilgamel]

Hey Ham, good article on Vince I thought you might enjoy. It's from our PBP guy Mike Keith.

Titans Radio

When it was announced formally that Vince Young would start for the Titans against the Jaguars, I headed to the film library. I had to check out the DVD of "Tennessee vs. Jacksonville 9/7/08".

I remember the plot: Young is not playing great, throws a fluke interception, gets very upset on the sideline, eventually goes back into the game, gets hurt and ends up replaced by Kerry Collins. The film had a happy ending for the Titans, as they won the game, but it certainly wasn't that happy for Young.

With all of the drama of that day --- and the drama that followed in the 48 hours after the game --- I had forgotten what that game itself looked like, what had led to the hubbub.

So I sat down on Friday night and watched the film.

Vince Young did not play well from the outset. He fumbled early in the game, but was lucky that Kevin Mawae recovered. In the second quarter, Young threw a bad interception to Gerald Sensabaugh, setting up Jacksonville's only touchdown.
Young was hesitant to run, didn't appear to be on the same page with his receivers and missed throws that a third-year starter is supposed to make.

More than all of that, Vince Young appeared joyless.

This wasn't the VY of 2006. This wasn't the guy who made stats irrelevant because of his play-making ability. This wasn't the sparkplug that made teammates want to play for him.

The Vince Young of 2008 looked nothing like VY. Instead, this was just a guy.

When Young threw his interception to defensive end Derrick Harvey with 8:13 to go in the game, well, you know the rest of the story. From his apparent mindset throughout the rest of the game, Young's reaction shouldn't have been such a shocker. He wasn't happy. He was having no fun.

As he stood through the rest of 2008, he watched the Titans move on without him. As we watched Vince Young in practice, he simply went about his business. Young never caused problems or had anything bad to say about Kerry Collins, but still did not have that VY spark.

We saw the spark at times during 2009 training camp, during some '09 preseason games and at some moments off of the field. But for the most part, Vince Young merely played the role of backup quarterback.

In the last ten days, we saw something different.

When it was apparent that he would play against Jacksonville, a familiar sight reemerged. The excited guy in the huddle, on the practice field and in the locker room. The hand-clapping. The back-slapping. The dancing.

Vince Young seemed to have disappeared and VY had returned.

But would it carry over to LP Field? Or would we see the same guy who looked disinterested 14 months earlier?

The first results are encouraging.

Young led Tennessee to a 30-13 win with some solid passing (15-18 for 125 yards a touchdown), some good decision-making (no sacks, interceptions or fumbles) and some timely running. Young led the Titans, which is job #1 for any quarterback. Best of all, VY looked like he was having a great time.

Vince Young has a strong (if sometimes inaccurate) arm. He has great feet. His ability to make tacklers miss has rarely been matched. The guy is a superb athlete. But his strength as a quarterback is none of those features. It is his joy.

When Young is rolling, his love for playing and for competing are contagious. That joy defined Young as a player. When that joy left Vince Young, he became like everyone else.

But when the joy came back, so did VY. We saw the joy this past Sunday at LP Field.

There are more hurdles to climb for Vince Young. There will be fumbles and there will be interceptions. There will be too much credit and too much blame. It happens to every quarterback at every level of football.

If VY can keep the joy of playing even when things go awry, then we'll know for sure that he has put the past in its place. We'll need to see more to know all of the answers.

In Sunday's win over Jacksonville, however, he took care of some things. VY was back and it was fun to see. I'll enjoy watching that Jacksonville DVD more than the last one.

[Ronne]

So Vince Young leads the league in joy?