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05-07-2009, 11:53 AM
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| The sky calls to us  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston
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+58 Internets   | I think everyone did something, but I don't think Pujols would be stupid enough to put himself in a position to fail a test now. Uber Uberest was the one who knew for a fact, he and I went back and forth on this a few months ago
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05-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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| Doooooooooooom...?  Join Date: Jan 2006
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Manny Ramirez of Los Angeles Dodgers will serve 50-game suspension for drug violation - ESPN Quote:
This sucks though, I was finally getting excited about baseball a bit...guess not! | ||
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05-07-2009, 01:09 PM
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+10 Internets | From the link: However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is HCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO. He claims he was having sex drive problems and this was in something the doctor prescribed. Once Pujols goes down I will be very very sadface. Tear up the fucking record books.
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05-07-2009, 01:16 PM
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Failure to comply with treatment program * First failure to comply: 15 to 25-day suspension or up to a $10,000 fine * Second failure to comply: 25 to 50-day suspension or up to a $25,000 fine * Third failure to comply: 50 to 75-day suspension or up to a $50,000 fine * Fourth failure to comply: at least a one-year suspension or up to a $100,000 fine. * Any subsequent failure(s) to comply: The level of the discipline will be determined by the Office of the Commissioner, consistent with the concept of progressive discipline. All suspensions are without pay. Positive steroid test results * First positive test result: 50 game suspension * Second positive test result: 100 game suspension * Third positive test result: lifetime ban All suspensions are without pay.
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05-07-2009, 01:27 PM
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| Spongebob is my bitch Join Date: Dec 2003
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| Therefore this is has to be a steroid and not just some oddball chemcial. Sad day.
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05-07-2009, 01:35 PM
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| Hobophobic  Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX
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Sad day, I really like Manny, even though I'm a Padres (lol) fan. | |
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05-07-2009, 01:49 PM
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| hcg is also used as part of post cycle therapy after steroids. It would jumpstsrt your balls again after the resulting shutdown from steroids. It is not performance enhancing, and if it was really for sexually reasons why would he not fight it? Because both he and MLB know why he used it. |
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05-07-2009, 01:54 PM
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+10 Internets | Quote:
 Also Canseco on XM today: "It's past time to stop the witch hunt. The players are just pawns. It's time to find out who among Player's Association, MLB and Agents, knew, supported, encouraged and enabled steroid use. MLB openly endorsed steroid by turning a blind eye. They let agents supply steroids. They let trainers ask questions about steroids and never did a thing." He has a point. From the top down it all stinks for the last 15 years.
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05-07-2009, 01:58 PM
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| Hobophobic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX
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+26 Internets | Yeah, I agree with Jose, and the total vindication of him and his book is really fun to watch. Hated the guy as a player (as great as he was), but I love this shit now. Pass the popcorn. PS: I'm not saying I love what it's doing to the sport, of course, just that it's nice to see that maybe some measure of sanity might finally be put back into the game. Bust the users, suppliers and enablers, and toss them the fuck out. It is WAY past time for a purge. |
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05-07-2009, 02:20 PM
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| Sim  Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Valley, Cali
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| As a Dodger fan, oh well. He's not truley a Dodger anyways. He's a Red Sox, thats where he made his name. Manny will still be back for the stretch run. The Dodgers without him can still compete in the NL West until he comes back. He's 37 or so anyways. Its just a nice 7 week vacation. As long as he can be back to his hitting ways down the stretch, i am ok.
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05-07-2009, 02:37 PM
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| A drug like that 100% complies with the theraputic use exemption. How would MLB be able to tell a man he can't use a medication to get his wife pregnant, in the case of hcg for example. The drug raises physiological or natural levels of test, and likely not even to levels that would rival a healthy 16yr old boy. HCG isn't going to make manny perform better anywhere other than his bedroom. As I said, it's use pertaining to manny ramirez is clear. They will never get drugs out of sports. A huge % uses. Deal with it people. It was McGwire would never do that, then bonds, then A-rod was the savior of baseball. Now manny.... Yet people refuse to believe that one day Pujols may be the topic of conversation. |
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05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
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| Its not really hard to beleive that other people want to see someone do something 100 percent legit. Its just never that way. Its just like in everything, people do whatever they can to get ahead. We have all heard about the chick that flirts with her boss, or fucks him for whatever reasons. People will snitch other people off to get promoted blah blah blah. People just love to gossip and blow everything up. Its just how it is.
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05-07-2009, 04:02 PM
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+58 Internets | Simmons' new article is an entertaining read, though it's just him interviewing himself mostly. Bill Simmons: Manny Ramirez's positive drug test makes the Sports Guy confront his worst nightmare - ESPN Quote:
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05-07-2009, 04:29 PM
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| Well Manny never stopped hitting home runs and he didnt test positive for steroids in the last 5 years. I have no idea before that. Ortiz though, he got fat. Anyone that has good seasons now days, is going to be suspected of taking it. Down the line we will hear that big Albert was using as well, its never ever going to stop now. Just have to say it is what it is, and if you enjoy the game, watch it. If not, dont.
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