[CFB] 2009-2010 season of awesome

[Ham n Cheese]

wait those aren't before/after pics?

Those two pictures mean nothing. I'm not saying he didn't use any. But going from living with mom, high school coaches and practice limits to biggest football program in the country, with a much harder diet and work ethic can indeed make your body make those kind of results in a few years.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Cynno

Yes, you can.

lol okay, i see many athletes who aren't on steroids needing bras.

[findar]

Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

wait those aren't before/after pics?

Those two pictures mean nothing. I'm not saying he didn't use any. But going from living with mom, high school coaches and practice limits to biggest football program in the country, with a much harder diet and work ethic can indeed make your body make those kind of results in a few years.

honestly HGH use is up in high school as well. see also: rich dfw suburb football teams. southlake carroll i'm looking at you.


that said, tech is gunna be a dark horse until 4 games into the season. our teams are so fucking inconsistant i love it :]

[Fadaar]

Going back to the original topic of this thread... this season doesn't even need to be played. Just go ahead and give Tebow his 3rd national championship. The season is already over before it even starts.

[Adam12]

Originally Posted by Fadaar

Going back to the original topic of this thread... this season doesn't even need to be played. Just go ahead and give Tebow his 3rd national championship. The season is already over before it even starts.

While we're at it, I'd like to congratulate the Yankees on their 2009 World Series victory, the Lakers on their World Championship and the Patriots for their 2010 Super Bowl win. GG's all, and good thing we didn't waste everyone's time playing this year!

[Rush]

That is Cushing his freshman year to Cushing about 1 year ago. He trains with Joe Defranco in New Jersey, where Cushing is from. I have seen some guys that I played with in college go and train with Defranco for 3-4 months and come back absolutely jacked. I don't know what goes on out there, but I'd sure as fuck love to find out.

[Darkko]

Anyone see anything wrong with this article lol.

Iowa's Kirk Ferentz¿outranks¿Rich Rodriguez as top¿Big¿Ten¿coach - NCAA Football - SI.com

[Genjiro]

Haha, wow....guy must be an Iowa or Michigan grad.

[Cynno]

Originally Posted by Rush

That is Cushing his freshman year to Cushing about 1 year ago. He trains with Joe Defranco in New Jersey, where Cushing is from. I have seen some guys that I played with in college go and train with Defranco for 3-4 months and come back absolutely jacked. I don't know what goes on out there, but I'd sure as fuck love to find out.

Here, let me help you out.

Prohormones

[Ham n Cheese]

lol love the warning
"this product contains a chemical known to the state of california to cause cancer, birth defects and/or reproductive harm"

[Darkko]

Just saw this a few minutes ago.

NCAA combines investigations into USC athletics
Attorneys for former O.J. Mayo associate say separate probes of football, basketball programs have been joined.
By Lance Pugmire
April 9, 2009
NCAA investigations into former USC stars in football and basketball have been combined into one probe of the Trojans' athletic program, sources connected to one of the cases said Wednesday.

Investigators have been examining allegations involving Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush and NBA lottery pick O.J. Mayo. Bush is accused of accepting thousands in cash and his family for failing to pay rent on a home owned by a fledgling marketer while he was playing for USC in 2004 and 2005. Mayo is accused of accepting cash and other benefits from a middleman representing a sports agency before and during the one season he played for the Trojans in 2007-08.
The allegations against Mayo were made by Louis Johnson, a former associate of Mayo and Rodney Guillory, who Johnson says received more than $200,000 in cash and gifts from a representative of the Northern California-based BDA Sports Management agency, funneling some of it -- including a flat-screen television, meals, clothes and other gifts -- to the player.

Johnson's attorneys, Anthony V. Salerno and David Murphy, said Wednesday they were told during a recent conversation with a Pacific 10 Conference executive that the NCAA had consolidated its work on both cases into one investigation looking into whether the school showed a lack of institutional control.

"It makes sense," Salerno said. "The NCAA looks at the program as a whole, and you may be talking about systemic problems in these cases of payments by agents. Yes, these were different teams and coaches. Rather than do it piecemeal, look at the institution."

The NCAA, through a spokeswoman, declined to comment, as did a Pac-10 investigator. Spokesman Jim Muldoon said it was conference policy to not comment on potential investigations.

Pac-10 Commissioner Tom Hanson could not be reached for comment.

USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett referred questions to the university's legal counsel, who did not return messages. Trojans football Coach Pete Carroll could not be reached for comment.

USC basketball Coach Tim Floyd said he hasn't had any dialogue with the NCAA since May and has "never, ever heard" that the investigations were being combined.

Bush and Mayo have said they did nothing wrong.

Compliance experts have said a college athlete's acceptance of improper benefits could result in NCAA sanctions against a program including forfeitures of victories, probation, a ban on postseason play, the loss of television appearances or scholarship and recruiting restrictions.

Times staff writer Gary Klein contributed to this report.

[whatsamattau]

I'm not sure what to think of that. It seems to me that they were separate events and should be investigated as such. If they actually come out and say there were violations in either case, then look into the possibility of systemic violations.

The bigger question that still hasn't been answered is why is Bush's case taking over 3 years?

[cdyhybrid]

Originally Posted by whatsamattau

I'm not sure what to think of that. It seems to me that they were separate events and should be investigated as such. If they actually come out and say there were violations in either case, then look into the possibility of systemic violations.

The bigger question that still hasn't been answered is why is Bush's case taking over 3 years?

Something contributing to the delay might be that USC is a private school, so they can keep a lot of paperwork hidden that public schools would be required to cough up. Plus, the violations apparently had to do with people "unassociated" with the school (agents, etc.), so the investigation is actually to see whether USC knew about it and looked the other way, not to see if they were giving Bush/Mayo money, etc. which would be a lot easier to determine.

That, and USC is a golden goose.

[whatsamattau]

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid

That, and USC is a golden goose.

Ding.

If Bush was getting payed to play college football, people at USC knew about it. In fact, it is their job to know about it.

The point about USC being a private school could be valid, but it's still just speculation. Which brings me back to my real issue in all this which is where is the media? I'll go back to my sour grapes: ESPN raided Athens for what amounted to a Dad doing too many favors for his son and an easy ride college curriculum for his basketball players. Can't they at least ASK why it's taking so long to come to a decision on this?

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by whatsamattau

The point about USC being a private school could be valid, but it's still just speculation. Which brings me back to my real issue in all this which is where is the media? I'll go back to my sour grapes: ESPN raided Athens for what amounted to a Dad doing too many favors for his son and an easy ride college curriculum for his basketball players. Can't they at least ASK why it's taking so long to come to a decision on this?

i dunno how long you guys have watched college football, but during the clarrett saga, espn demanded that the AD and those involved step down. it got so bad that during the 04 alamo bowl, the announcers during the game said the same thing.

this was BEFORE the ncaa even started their investigations. it was all over the media, and espn was the ring leader of the lynch mob.

if you watch espn now or look at their website, you see nothing, absolutely nothing regarding this. nothing. no story, no editorials, not even a blurb on sportscenter.

the humongous double standard is quite hilarious.