p90x

[Soygen]

Lots of diets are a fad, but a good strength/cardio workout, is a good strength/cardio workout. That said, I haven't even seen these videos.

[BarnacleBill]

Originally Posted by arkk123

Chalk another one up for the fad diet/training routine creators and the expansion of their wallets!

I have to agree with Soygen; if you look at the materials you'll see that this is a very well put together workout system, whether or not you buy the junk into the products they try to piggy-back onto it (protein bars, supplements, pulll-up bar, etc...), and the muscle-confusion concepts.

I 'd say that the the total package would be a big help to someone who was starting with very little knowledge on the subject, especially the diet plan and the idea behind the recovery drink. That being said, this is obviously a product that isn't really meant to be used by someone completely out of shape, and therefore most likely someone who's somewhat informed.

All that aside I felt like a huge homo-fag during the yoga/kempo-or-whatever dvd's

[Ham n Cheese]

Yeah I've done the old Power90. Sure you can do any of those things on your own, but you an also buy all your own gym equipment on your own instead of going to one. Having a plan and instruction on what to do and how to do it properly is helpful to nearly everyone, but especially those who haven't done that type of thing before. Just steer clear from the supplements and their own made weights and elastic bands, etc and it's worth it even if you pay for it imo. I've downloaded all my copies so they aren't chalking anything up to me, or half of the people who read FOH for that matter I'd guess

[Laven]

I have the videos ready, and tested em on my tv and they work fine. Now I just need to find a pull up bar that can extend about 4-4 1/2ft anyone have any ideas? longest I see on some websites are 36"

[Soygen]

Yeah 4.5 feet is pretty damn wide.

[Laven]

Yeah the opening from my family room to the living room is fucking wide, so far the only thing I've seen are ones that you can mount up and they stick out. Might check out some of the sporting good stores around me. Im also going to start taking Met-Rx again, used the stuff when I was in high school for football and wrestling and was very satisfied with it.

[arkk123]

Originally Posted by BarnacleBill

I have to agree with Soygen; if you look at the materials you'll see that this is a very well put together workout system, whether or not you buy the junk into the products they try to piggy-back onto it (protein bars, supplements, pulll-up bar, etc...), and the muscle-confusion concepts.

I 'd say that the the total package would be a big help to someone who was starting with very little knowledge on the subject, especially the diet plan and the idea behind the recovery drink. That being said, this is obviously a product that isn't really meant to be used by someone completely out of shape, and therefore most likely someone who's somewhat informed.

All that aside I felt like a huge homo-fag during the yoga/kempo-or-whatever dvd's

Gaining muscle is not rocket science, and therein lies my problem, and hence why no one needs to pay money for something like p90x.

But the reason programs such as that do well is because it motivates people into believing it will do something more than a very basic routine you would find in FLEX or some similar magazine. Then they get on this program, and the normally lazy and undedicated folk suddenly transform into reliable gymgoers that they should have been otherwise, and when they see results it is because of "p90x".

The problem with training and diet is because everyone wants results NOW, and they refuse to wait. So they buy into things like that and develop magic pill syndrome, then go and drop 300 bucks at a GNC on some Muscletech garbage.

Consistency and structure is all it takes.

[Armadon]

Has anyone tried doing this workout with just the resistance bands? Are they reasonable substitutes for weights and the pull-up bar?

[Frantic]

Originally Posted by arkk123

Consistency and structure is all it takes.

This is how I lost 90 pounds. Just eat a LOT of clean and healthy food often. Green veggies, lean meats, fruit, and whole grains. You'll have to practically choke food down to get the calories you should. Eat every 2-3 hours. Do a basic weight lifting program. Profit.

[simeon]

Originally Posted by arkk123

Gaining muscle is not rocket science, and therein lies my problem, and hence why no one needs to pay money for something like p90x.

But the reason programs such as that do well is because it motivates people into believing it will do something more than a very basic routine you would find in FLEX or some similar magazine. Then they get on this program, and the normally lazy and undedicated folk suddenly transform into reliable gymgoers that they should have been otherwise, and when they see results it is because of "p90x".

The problem with training and diet is because everyone wants results NOW, and they refuse to wait. So they buy into things like that and develop magic pill syndrome, then go and drop 300 bucks at a GNC on some Muscletech garbage.

Consistency and structure is all it takes.

I own the program, and it's much more than just consistency and structure. P90X is good, because it's just that - an awesome compilation. Not only does it provide guidance, but some of the workouts themselves are pretty incredible and the moves therein are pretty intense and complete. And yes, it is a movie production-esque as far as editing, etc... and that added bonus creates an environment that gets you into the mood (YMMV).

As far as "no one needs to pay money for something like P90X" - I disagree. This is completely different than anything I've ever seen before. I can guarantee that pounding out these workouts for 90 days at 110%, you will get better results than regular gym-goers and non-rocket-science followers will in 90 days. P90X is a pretty bomb awesome routine. The food guide is cool too because it gets rid of the guess work. I personally don't follow the food guide, but I know a lot of people who would be into that.

As far as my pull-up bar... I got the P90X/beachbody one. I love it. I swing like a madman on it sometimes (ie: fuck around and hang upside down) and I haven't died yet. So, it's good.

[arkk123]

Originally Posted by simeon

I own the program, and it's much more than just consistency and structure. P90X is good, because it's just that - an awesome compilation. Not only does it provide guidance, but some of the workouts themselves are pretty incredible and the moves therein are pretty intense and complete. And yes, it is a movie production-esque as far as editing, etc... and that added bonus creates an environment that gets you into the mood (YMMV).

As far as "no one needs to pay money for something like P90X" - I disagree. This is completely different than anything I've ever seen before. I can guarantee that pounding out these workouts for 90 days at 110%, you will get better results than regular gym-goers and non-rocket-science followers will in 90 days. P90X is a pretty bomb awesome routine. The food guide is cool too because it gets rid of the guess work. I personally don't follow the food guide, but I know a lot of people who would be into that.

As far as my pull-up bar... I got the P90X/beachbody one. I love it. I swing like a madman on it sometimes (ie: fuck around and hang upside down) and I haven't died yet. So, it's good.

p90x invented pullups

[LiquidDeath]

Originally Posted by arkk123

p90x invented pullups

You have it all wrong.

Tony Horton invented pull-ups.

[simeon]

Tony Horton is a cocky bastard, but if I could smile and commentate while doing 30 pull-ups, I would be too.

[Brad2770]

Since last Sept, I have gained about 30 lbs. At first, it was seeing my ex and the 19 yr old at the same time, so was really taking away my time from the gym. Then I stopped seeing my ex and was really hanging out with the 19 yr old (coupled by the fact she lived an hour away, so 2 hour round trip drive to see her) took me away from the gym. I stopped watching what i ate (the cheaper fattening food was much better on my wallet since i was seeing her so much and spending almost 4 a gallon in gas).

Anyways, I have been putting it off and putting it off and today was my breaking point-

I have been working my arms, chest, shoulders and back hoping to fill up the fat gained and make myself look more proportionate, but I was doing nothing with my diet and besides riding my mountain bike for about an hour and a half about 4 days a week, I was doing nothing with cardio.

A friend of mine has been doing this now for about a month and has already talked about his change (I have not seen him yet- Lives in Austin). He has told me time and again to get on this and within the 90 days, i will be back to where I was 9 months ago, and then some.

I really do not know what I did right the first time around, besides starving myself, but that really wasnt right. I want some bulk now- some definition and I know I have to work for it.

So, here's hoping for some real change. Tired of being mediocre.

EDIT

This begins real change. not gunna hope for it anymore.

[Brad2770]

I am a little new to this Bit Torrent scene. Trying to fond the Videos I need for this P90X stuff. Anyone mind lending me a hand? I would appreciate it.

I see a lot of items to DL, but not sure what is the 'core' videos I need to get started with the 90 day program.