[NFL] 2008 Season

[Moontayle]

Originally Posted by Man0warr

I bet Jerry Jones tries to trade off one of our three running backs next season, and it will probably be Choice, which I think is a mistake. Having 3 good RBs is a luxury one can afford to keep - as Cowboys don't have any gaping holes except for head coach/offensive playcalling and backup QB. Cowboys have top players in every skill position, coaching is just awful and after Romo was back theres no excuse to lose a game, either Romo shuts off or Defense does at worst times, mind boggling.

Cowboys need to demote Wade to DC, fire Bruce Reed (special teams coach, awful last 2 seasons), slap the hell out of Garrett or something since Jerry will never get rid of him, and pay Cowher a bajillion dollars to be HC.

I don't see him getting rid of any of our backs. Depth like that is rare and say what you want about Jerry but he's always about putting the Cowboys into a position to win, personnel-wise (he doesn't always succeed, see: Galloway trade). What I see is this: Barber and Choice go to a two-back system like they had when Julius was here. You switch them out on series until one gets a hot hand, then you keep that guy in until he fizzles, then go back to switching. Felix returns kicks and comes in on all two-back sets for that Home Run potential.

Bruce Reed definitely needs to go. I won't comment on what they should do with Wade. Say what you want about the guy but he does have two winning seasons so far, and the Cowboys now have 4 straight winning seasons which is the longest since the '91-'96 stretch. I will say that if they keep him another year that the potential for the Cowboys to be dominant next year will be there. I don't think they have anyone set to head off into Free Agency on the defensive side.

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I love that Choice is doing well,but he does have a major weakness that has plagued them the last 3 games. He is still a rookie when it comes to blocking for Romo.They even talked about it last game in the press box.

I noticed it right off the bat,but wasn't sure if it was first game jitters or what.

Marion is much better in that role. So when he gets healthy we will just have to see what they want to do.

[Mippo]

The Patriots were winning Super Bowls when Moss played for Oakland and Welker was a Dolphin. The first year Brady had those players he went 16-0.......

What it shows is that the system and the players are really good so Cassell has been able to achieve success anyway. It helps having two of the best receivers in the NFL to throw to. Let's not forget that Brady was 16-0 with them, 18-1 and came just short of a perfect season. Prior to them coming, Brady has won multiple championships with far less talented teams. Cassell basically inherited one of the most talented teams they have had in a while.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle when he goes to a different team.

[Man0warr]

5) Hire someone to teach Andre Gurode to snap a football

They have Hudson Houck, one of the best. Some things you just can't teach, it's like Gurode's fatal flaw but hes a damn good center otherwise.

I'd hope we keep all our Running backs, it's rare to have a punisher like Marion, shifty guy like Choice, and a speed guy in Felix. Look how well it works for the Giants when all 3 of their RBs are healthy, damn near unstoppable.

It would require a totally different offensive scheme to utilize all 3 though, Felix Jones was terribly underused the games he was healthy.

edit: Forgot to add something

We have two of the best WR in the league, plus Crayton/Austin who are pretty good. I know we have played against really good defenses last 3 weeks but..Our WR are being terribly under used - TO and crew had a right to bitch. Roy Williams and Crayton almost never get thrown to and with TO being doubled most the time they should be 1 on 1 and should be able to get catches.

Choice has been most of our offense last 3 games, with some Witten and TO thrown in. Romo (or Garrett) is always trying to force the ball to TO in double teams, when Crayton and Williams have to be open..

So wierd to pay so much for another good receiver and getting no use out of him, he must be pissed as hell.

[Urlithani]

ProFootballTalk.com - NFL MOVES THREE WEEK SEVENTEEN GAMES

Dolphins at Jets moved to 4:15. Good. That will likely mean the Jets will find out that the Patriots beat the Bills before they even step on the field and they'll under perform even more. The way they're playing I doubt it will be needed, however.

And that's not really a knock on you Jets fans out there. I was pulling hard yesterday for you to beat Seattle so that way no matter who wins in the Meadowlands next week, we'd have a postseason free of New England(and the way they're playing right now I'm sure the Titans, Steelers, Ravens, and Denver/SD would much rather play Miami or NYJ than the Patriots).

Dallas at Philly and Jags at Baltimore also moved to 4:15.

[Ham n Cheese]

Originally Posted by Mippo

The Patriots were winning Super Bowls when Moss played for Oakland and Welker was a Dolphin. The first year Brady had those players he went 16-0.......

What it shows is that the system and the players are really good so Cassell has been able to achieve success anyway. It helps having two of the best receivers in the NFL to throw to. Let's not forget that Brady was 16-0 with them, 18-1 and came just short of a perfect season. Prior to them coming, Brady has won multiple championships with far less talented teams. Cassell basically inherited one of the most talented teams they have had in a while.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle when he goes to a different team.

Did you ignore the part of my post where I said he was always billed as winner? He only had these incredible "best qb" debate numbers when Moss/Welker was there. Maybe I shouldn't have said billed, but yes, he's always won, just he launched himself into a new category last year for sure. Their defense is a year older now and they lose Harrison and Samuel. Maroney has been gone basically the year as well. To call this team more talented than last years is a bad assessment imo.

Dallas has no reason to move a RB. They're all locked into contracts and Jones/Choice are too young to be able to complain about anything. When you have 3 good backs though maybe Jerry will trust his staff more often though and not force people back with his comments to the media and let one get 100%. What I would do though is cut T.O. as much as I think he's a super talented guy, he just is too needy for a star power teamed like Dallas. Give the team to Romo, let Roy get healthy in the off season and he can be your #1 man. Can also draft one next year as Crayton is okay, but I wouldn't be too excited about him being a #2

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hey have Hudson Houck, one of the best. Some things you just can't teach, it's like Gurode's fatal flaw but hes a damn good center otherwise.

Gurode must be brain damaged then,lol.

[Grimmlokk]

Originally Posted by Mippo

If you don't think motivation matters then you probably have never played sports.

I never said motivation doesn't matter, I said this stupid manufactured drama between teams doesn't determine the outcome of a game. Like Twobit that said Ray Lewis broke Mendenhall's shoulder because of the stupid text message bullshit. Because I'm sure Lewis would have gently lowered him(or any ballcarrier) to the turf if he didn't have some manufactured drama motivating him.

I'll just never buy in to the idea that these truly good teams need some kiddie shit to make them actually try to win games. Possible I'm wrong here=)

[Mippo]

Except that this stupid motivation generally does have an impact on the outcome. These players are human and to think they play 100% every down is asinine.

Rivalries are a pretty good example. Certain teams just happen to play well against other teams, regardless of how well they each happen to be doing that season. How else do you explain that? You don't think the fact that they are playing a "rival" brings extra motivation so they tend to play better?

Or how people play much better when it is needed. The extra motivation of having the game on the line. How do you explain them playing poorly all game but playing really well in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line? Usually the better team performs when it counts but in contrast, teams that are well coached tend to perform better ALL GAME and are much more likely to blow teams out of the water. That tends to be the sign of a dominant team.

There are many instances where motivation affects the outcome and it is why a lot of the success achieved in sports is mental. Watch a tennis match and you can clearly see people fall apart during the match. Players going through "funks". In baseball you can have a great hitter really struggling hitting the ball for a long stretch of time. A lot of that is mental.

How these players think does have a big impact on how they perform. They are only human. If you have ever played sports at a competitive level you've probably encountered a situation where you played less then you are capable of because of the way you were thinking. It's quite easy to mentally take yourself out of a game or even for a few plays, and underperform because of it. These guys are not immune to it happening to them as well and those stupid incidents actually do tend to increase the focus the next time around. There are quite a few instances where the team that won in the regular season went on to lose to the same team in the playoffs. The Giants just last year......

[BurnemWizfyre]

Speaking of people who are either going to be traded or cut for the Dallas Cowboys. Roy Williams (the safety) is gone, Henry will move to Safety and that leaves you with Newman, Scandrick, Jenkins and Jones at CB.

[Lenardo]

Even if the patriots Win their 1pm game, the jets/miami game is EXTREMELY important for the Jets..the Raven's Game..

If the Patriots Beat the Bills, Then the Jets fans are PRAYING for a Jacksonville win over the Ravens and for the jets to beat the Dolphins.

if pats win, jets Win & ravens Lose- the Jets are the Wildcard same record as Ravens/Dolphins, better Division & Conference record than either of the two.

[Scorp]

Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre

Speaking of people who are either going to be traded or cut for the Dallas Cowboys. Roy Williams (the safety) is gone, Henry will move to Safety and that leaves you with Newman, Scandrick, Jenkins and Jones at CB.

I'd rather they bring in a new Safety. Physical corners are an amazing asset in the NFL that are underrated, IMO.

[Moontayle]

Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre

Speaking of people who are either going to be traded or cut for the Dallas Cowboys. Roy Williams (the safety) is gone, Henry will move to Safety and that leaves you with Newman, Scandrick, Jenkins and Jones at CB.

Roy "I can't cover" Williams is still under contract next year and no one is going to want him anyways. Plus, we've missed him in the run game. You can bet he wouldn't have missed those tackles on Saturday, even if he had to horse collar the guys.

[Man0warr]

Dropping the fumble that would of ended the drive w/ the fake field goal, and both 70+ yd touchdown runs were thanks to Ken Hamlin, he bounced right off the two runners while trying to grab their ankles.

[madmaan]

Originally Posted by Man0warr

Choice has been most of our offense last 3 games, with some Witten and TO thrown in. Romo (or Garrett) is always trying to force the ball to TO in double teams, when Crayton and Williams have to be open..

So wierd to pay so much for another good receiver and getting no use out of him, he must be pissed as hell.

Dallas has prided themselves on having a better running game than their will to use it. When you hire a has-been quarterback to be the AC, you are going to have more pass plays no matter your running game.