The NBA Off-Season Draft Extravaganza

[Akileese]

It's definitely time for a new thread since the season's been over for a week now and the draft being tonight.

The first huge news was the Jermaine O'Neal to Toronto trade for TJ Ford, Nesterovic, and the #17.

Welp, let the trade speculation begin. The Blazers have not been shy about their desire to trade their pick and the Heat seem intent on passing on Beasley or trading the pick.

[Araxen]

Please, Please, Please Mchale don't fuck this up. Draft OJ Mayo or Beasely(If the Heat take Mayo). Do not trade up with the Heat!

[Eyashusa]

The rumor that the Bulls are going to trade the first pick to the Heat for D-Wade (and the second pick?) are crazy. I like him but I don't think thats a good move.

If the Bulls take Rose they really need to think about trading one of the other half dozen guards. The sports talk guys in Chicago were talking about how the Bulls should trade Luol Deng, Tyrus Thomas, and Ben Gordon to the Heat for the #2 and then they could have Rose and Beasley.

All signs point to Beasley being a bad choice, and with Miami not seeming to want him either, if the Bulls don't take Rose, it will be a disappointment. This will be the biggest decision of Paxson's life, thats for sure.

[JeydaX]

Originally Posted by Araxen

Please, Please, Please Mchale don't fuck this up. Draft OJ Mayo or Beasely(If the Heat take Mayo). Do not trade up with the Heat!

Not a chance, man. Mchale is a fucking tooljob and can't get anything right.

[Akileese]

Jefferson got traded I Guess. Don't know for who and where.

to the Bucks for Yi and other shit.

[Scientologist]

As a West Virginian and WVU fan, if someone would have told me before this season that Joe Alexander was going to be drafted in the top 10, I would have laughed in their face. That being said, I wish him the best of luck and think he'll have a successful career.

[Araxen]

I'm none too happy about the OJ Mayo trade. I don't know why I stay a twolves fan, but I am. /sigh

"But where are you going?...great, they now will win 33 games and have the 10th pick in the draft next year...or maybe it'll be lower and go to the Clippers...Miller is a nice player, i'm not debating that, but he has just 2 yrs left on his deal...no lock he stays here...and I like Love a lot, probably more than most, but you had to get more from Memphis to justify this move." - Doogie

-This team will win about 35 games next year and ruin it's chances of a top 3 pick in the draft of 2009.

-We completely abandoned the 3 year rebuilding plan in which we had Al Jefferson in year one, Mayo in year 2, a bad record and high pick again in year three where we add our third piece.

-Now our future is Foye/Miller/Brewer/Jefferson/Love. That team has NO CHANCE of making the Western Conference finals EVER.

-But it will win some games, Miller will hit 3's and some tix will sell, that's good enough for Taylor and that is so frustrating as a fan that it's good enough for our FO.

-Who guards Garnett, Duncan, Boozer, Amare, Yao, Dirk, David West, Dwight Howard? Jefferson? Please. Love is 6-7 without shoes on. Defensively, this team is a C- at best, it will never be meaningful in terms of competing highly. I'm not positive, but I don't think Mike Miller is a great defender and we know Foye isn't.

-These next two are such obvious pictures of a bumbling FO it makes me shake with anger:

-Why not know you were going to trade, so you could take CDR #34, a player who has a chance to be a starter over Brewer for sure? And why pick a 7 foot Greaser with #31 when you got your franchise "center" at #5? What happens (if)when Greasy comes over and blows up, do you move Al to SF?

-WTF do you do with McCants? You can't trade him for a C now that you have Love there, you have 6-7 Love, and Greaser waiting in the wings! McCants just became worth less than Buckner.

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All in all, in one night the future became now, and the future is very bleak. We just became a bad defensive team, very solid offensive team, and most importantly a team that has set it's ceiling about 2 inches above where it is right now.

Doogie, you just went up several notches in my book, and I'm very glad to see someone else is as depress as I am about this because of the implications it has on our future.

KFAN Rube Chat - Doogie Sums it up perfectly

[Ham n Cheese]

I'm pleased with the Rockets. The French SF they took didn't make sense to me at first (we already have 2 starters in Battier and McGrady making one or the other play out of position). To turn that into another potential SF and PF isn't bad, though I might've kept Arthur over Green. They've also got to look into getting a serious backup for Yao "Injured every season" Ming. DeAndre Jordan in the 2nd would've been nice, can basically buy those picks with cash.

Beasley gonna be a 18/8 guy on the Heat if used right until Marion is gone, then I can see him average 20/10 for his career. I really think he can score and rebound really well. Derrick Rose I really like too, but I don't understand how this is a point guards game now when Rajon Rondo (and a team lead by defense) is the one wearing the ring, not Paul or Williams and I can't seem to remember Kidd or Nash putting on any jewelery.

I always wondered how average 6 points and 5 rebounds in an international league made you a top 20 pick

[Jadaki]

Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

Beasley gonna be a 18/8 guy on the Heat if used right until Marion is gone, then I can see him average 20/10 for his career. I really think he can score and rebound really well. Derrick Rose I really like too, but I don't understand how this is a point guards game now when Rajon Rondo (and a team lead by defense) is the one wearing the ring, not Paul or Williams and I can't seem to remember Kidd or Nash putting on any jewelery.

I'd take a potential top 5 PG over a guy who is a tweener like Beasley any day. If he was actually 6'10 like he was listed at K-state it's one thing, but actually only being 6'7 means he isn't going to be a dominating post presence in a league with guys like Howard and KG roaming the lane.

[Pharazon]

Uh, Carlos Boozer? Charles Barkley? Those are a couple tenacious tweeners that would disagree with you. And Beazly is a bit taller than either of them and probably better than they were in college (definitely better than either was their freshman year.)

[Jadaki]

Originally Posted by Pharazon

Uh, Carlos Boozer? Charles Barkley? Those are a couple tenacious tweeners that would disagree with you. And Beazly is a bit taller than either of them and probably better than they were in college (definitely better than either was their freshman year.)

Boozer is 6'9 (2 inches taller than Beasley) and has a much more imposing physique. Did Barkley or Boozer ever win a ring?

[WillzZz]

All I know is.. good luck defending Wade, Beasley and Marion. I'll take my chances with Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, Rose and whoever else they think is going to score points in Chicago.

Why a "potential top 5 PG" on a loaded team like Memphis only managed 4.5 assists per game is beyond my comprehension. I see him being another Jordan Farmar, not Chris Paul. He'll be a good addition to the team, a spark off the bench, a good scorer when it's needed. A good pickup for sure, but over Beasley?

Oh, and for all of you fantastic people who slave over ESPN's every word, I apologize in advance for contradicting that which the great ESPN preached to you. Feel free to dock me internets!

[Jadaki]

The problem in Chicago was that a lot of guys there can't create their own shot, let alone create for anyone else. Rose fits them perfectly though there are other PG's they could have gotten to fit the bill if they drafted Beasley.

Did you watch Memphis play much this year? A lot of times Rose was hitting an open guy who would pass up a shot to get another player a better shot. He started the plays, got them in their offense and created for everyone. Memphis also had several players capable of creating their own shot like CDR. If he averages less than 8 assists per game this year as a starter I'd be shocked.

[Akileese]

Originally Posted by WillzZz

All I know is.. good luck defending Wade, Beasley and Marion. I'll take my chances with Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, Rose and whoever else they think is going to score points in Chicago.

Why a "potential top 5 PG" on a loaded team like Memphis only managed 4.5 assists per game is beyond my comprehension. I see him being another Jordan Farmar, not Chris Paul. He'll be a good addition to the team, a spark off the bench, a good scorer when it's needed. A good pickup for sure, but over Beasley?

Oh, and for all of you fantastic people who slave over ESPN's every word, I apologize in advance for contradicting that which the great ESPN preached to you. Feel free to dock me internets!

Okay, so they'll be the 2008 version of the Denver Nuggets IF Wade is healthy (and I'm not sure he can get and stay healthy with the pounding his body has taken). They'll score 100 a night and let him 110. I mean, it's entertaining and it'll end up putting fans in the seats, but if your goal is to a win a title, Miami isn't going to do it with the way their team is setup.

I love Rose. I'm always a fan of taking a play making point guard if you can get one simply because if you don't have a pure scorer like Kobe or LeBron, having someone like that will get everyone else more open looks and more opportunities.

[Pharazon]

Originally Posted by Jadaki

Boozer is 6'9 (2 inches taller than Beasley) and has a much more imposing physique. Did Barkley or Boozer ever win a ring?

Wrong. Boozer is 6' 7". Yes I know they list him as 6' 9" but if you hear anybody that is ever around him talk about it they say he's 6' 7". Just look at him next to other forwards and you see the difference. Beasly measured in at closer to 6' 8". And who's talking about winning rings? I'm talking about the ability to dominate in the NBA as a tweener.

Barkley made it to the finals and lost to one of Jordan's teams in 6. Good enough for me.