[CFB] 08-09 Season Extravaganza

[Dumar]

i completely understand that, and it's a valid point.

where you err is saying anyone else deserves to go over osu. no matter how good you are in your bowl game, you still don't deserve a higher bowl game even if you win that game.

do you see that?

[Genjiro]

I didn't say that, Im just pointing out where the OSU hate is coming from. If they played LSU to the wire, nobody would be saying anything.

If anything, I just hate the bowl system period and want a playoff, but we said that every other post last season so I should just post script every cfb post I make to say "PS we need a fucking playoff system".

Fuck it though, I'll beat that dead horse and flay the skin from its bones since there's not really anything else to talk about. Fuck golf, baseball, hockey, nascar, the NBA, and basically everything else in sports that isn't going to be the Olympics, college and pro football, and March Madness. CFB season should start in like April-August, and then pro from September to Feb, and then of course March madness.

Fuck gas prices and the economy, if I was president I would make this happen and my sports year would be full of football.

[Dumar]

i'm in favor of a very limited bowl system. maybe +1 or +2 games. i don't want a full blown bowl because every saturday during the regular season is full of awesomeness because it has meaning. march madness is great to watch, but the whole season beforehand is yawn. i don't want that to happen to cfb.

you should dig a little deeper concerning the osu hate. the osu hate firstly comes from the media. espn knocks osu more than any other program. part of it may be due to the nc losses sure, but you didn't hear the same outcry vs stanford/usc or any other upset. they don't even rag on ou. the nc losses are more like a platform to hate, rather than the reason for it.

what's happening is that colleges and networks are realizing college sports is bigtime $. more and more people are going to college vs the 60's and 70's, so more people want to watch these events, esp football. abc/espn has been the sole recipient of this cash cow, and recently, people are starting to wise up. fox bought the rights to every bcs bowl but the rose (espn's contract with them runs to '10). obviously espn doesn't appreciate this. cue the big10 network, 49% owned by fox. who is the big10 network's main revenue generator and the big10 conf flagship program? osu. should this network succeed, it will be VERY dangerous for espn, because other confs like the pac10 or sec could do the same. with major conf games going to exclusive networks and bcs bowls being bought by fox, there will be very, very sad faces in the corp meeting rooms at espn. the best way to combat this is to religiously rail on the big10 and tout how utterly terrible the flagship program, osu, is via their huge market outlets. the two past nc games have unfortunately given them tons of ammo. if you'll notice during college gameday or sports center, they try to minimize exposure of any big10 news. for example, last year when mich beat florida in the cap bowl, if you noticed espn's cfb main site had no main pic or anything concerning it, was just a small blurb, regardless of how entertaining the game was to watch. the idea here is through slick marketing, they can minimize the effect that fox and the big10 network can have on their bottom line. and it seems to be working somewhat.

[WillzZz]

Ya know, every few years there's a team that's 0-8 in the SEC. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss St, traditionally they win a game or 2 each season, though. I mean, nobody could possibly be bad enough to go 0-8 against the SEC, right?

Oh wait.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by WillzZz

Ya know, every few years there's a team that's 0-8 in the SEC. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss St, traditionally they win a game or 2 each season, though. I mean, nobody could possibly be bad enough to go 0-8 against the SEC, right?

Oh wait.

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[Regime]

Originally Posted by Dumar

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[Banal]

Originally Posted by Dumar

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Que? Holding occurs on virtually every offensive play. Only the most obvious, and egregious holding fouls are called.

But seriously, you lost, and it wasn't the officiating that decided the game.

If the Big 10 wants to regain that lost respect, it needs to stop being worse than the Big East. So...ramp up that profit sharing and get teams like Purdue, NW, and Minnesota some help. Play a championship game for the extra revenue, etc. OSU has failed in the championship game the last two years because they weren't tested for the majority of their (awful) conference schedule. Playing Michigan every year does not a conference schedule make. It's also the reason why people were even more pissed about OSU's selection in the last NC game. They had a good record against crap competition and it showed.

Cue "we're playing USC..." (which illustrates my point perfectly). A Big 10 schedule doesn't give you any weight.

[Dumar]

oh fucking please. that's the same line that espn spews. it's almost the exact line. the big10 is fine. penn state, wisc, and illi are just as good as any of the midrange pac10 or sec teams.

usc plays nobody in conference and they get branded the greatest team of the decade every year. take that shit somewhere else.

[Banal]

Originally Posted by Dumar

oh fucking please. that's the same line that espn spews. it's almost the exact line. the big10 is fine. penn state, wisc, and illi are just as good as any of the midrange pac10 or sec teams.

usc plays nobody in conference and they get branded the greatest team of the decade every year. take that shit somewhere else.

USC plays no one in conference, but they crush ooc opponents in bowls.

OSU, UM, UW (maybe) are on par with the best SEC teams. PSU can occasionally beat the likes of Tenn (so can Clemson), but has been terribly inconsistent the last 5-6 years. Illinois = laff. Every 10 years or so, they play up in a weak conference and get crushed by real competition in a BCS bowl (see Florida, USC).

The SEC champion has crushed the Big 10 champion the last two years. There are 6-7 SEC teams consistently in the top 25. Once you get below about #3 in the Big 10, you basically have the Big East. The Big 10 was awful last year, top to bottom.

Also, there was a time when the Big 10 had a coaching edge. Now look at the SEC coaches. There are 5 national championship winning coaches in the SEC (and 1 who's team was denied the chance to play: the only undefeated SEC champion in history never to play for a NC). Ron Zook is a good coach in the Big 10 these days (see above re Illinois).

Edit: The reason ESPN says the same thing is because it was fucking obvious watching both games that OSU was unprepared. Either Tressel got outcoached by Les fuckin Miles or OSU shat themselves. You pick I guess.

[cdyhybrid]

Oregon would have been in the title game had Dixon not gotten hurt (and they played Oregon when he was healthy), so I dunno how you can say they play no one. UCLA is always talented but inconsistent, but that makes them very dangerous, especially in a rivalry game. Arizona State was on the cusp in terms of making a BCS bowl, but fell just short. Oregon State is always a tough team, they have a good physical defense and are very good at running the ball, which is a recipe for beating teams with more talent.

UW is improving and should be a bowl team this year, with Jake Locker vastly improving his passing according to spring reports. Cal has the talent but seemed to pack it in last year after the first loss or two. Arizona is a question mark, they can score but not much else. Wazzu is horrible, no further explanation needed. Stanford obviously isn't very good, and their win vs. USC was a fluke, although it was a very exciting fluke.

TL;DR - The Pac-10 is underrated because no one watches their games unless it's USC playing.

[AtwaKom]

California native who moved to NW Ohio and I can't tell you how excited I am to fly back home to watch USC destroy tOSU. I'm a firm believer that Columbus needs to be carpet bombed into obscurity...that place is packed full of the biggest mongoloid retard criminals I've ever stumbled across.

P.S. Big 10 is a fucking joke.

[Black_Death]

Do we have any gamblers here? I have been about a 60% winner over the last 10 years on NFL and College and was wondering if anyone else here gambles. If so I will post picks and lines every week for discussion in both this and the NFL thread.

[Regime]

Originally Posted by Black_Death

Do we have any gamblers here? I have been about a 60% winner over the last 10 years on NFL and College and was wondering if anyone else here gambles. If so I will post picks and lines every week for discussion in both this and the NFL thread.

I gamble College and a little NFL.

About 75 % but I gamble far less than you I suppose. (3-7 times a season)

I won't put my money on OSU beating USC, and you can Buy that for a dollar.

[Twobit Whore]

FOX Sports on MSN - COLLEGE FOOTBALL - BCS rejects playoff proposal

No surprise there.

Also no surprise who the 2 officials were that opposed it. Little 10 and the PAC 10. Why? Because the Rose Bowl pays 10 million more per team than the other BCS bowls. Who has ins to the Rose Bowl? That's right.

Fucking ridiculus.

[Tea on tuesday]

Every other conference has a total right to be pissed the fuck off about the Big 10 and PAC 10 for that shit regardless of any sort of conference dickwaving.