[NHL] 07-08 Playoffs - Page 13

EmpireF4i · 05-08-2008, 08:19 PM

Egads. Dallas got mowed down. Most of the goals were power play, but Detroit still looked scary

findar · 05-08-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireF4i

Egads. Dallas got mowed down. Most of the goals were power play, but Detroit still looked scary

need to wake up on D and push them out of turco's way. cant do shit when you cant see the puck as a goalie. good job on the red wings part tho, they did look the dominant team as i expected :/

kegkilla · 05-09-2008, 05:37 AM

need to wake up and realize that half of the red wings were alive when the dinosaurs were around. throw some bodies around for fuck's sake. this ain't soccer.

Eomer · 05-09-2008, 07:28 AM

That's not really true of the Red Wings anymore. They're actually a fairly young team, with the exception of a few guys like Lidstrom and Chelios.

I agree though that a lot of their players, especially Datsyuk and Zetterberg, often disappear if you start hitting them.

Tarrant220 · 05-09-2008, 11:05 AM

Wings on the whole have actually "young'ed" up their roster quite a bit.

And words can't be expressed with how glad I am to see Osgood as our goaltender taking us to the cup, I really hope he keeps his performance up.

whocaressd · 05-09-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

I agree though that a lot of their players, especially Datsyuk and Zetterberg, often disappear if you start hitting them.

True, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg wasn't really the ones causing them problems this game. The players that posed the biggest threat were Holström, Kronvall and Franzen etc, not exactly players who will be detered by getting checked. The real differance was that Detroits power play was so much better than Dallas and that their defense failed misserably at keeping the big detroit forwards out of the area infront of the net. Every single one of those goals I'd blame Dallas defense for and not Turco, he played solid as did Osgood.

Tarrant220 · 05-09-2008, 06:14 PM

Turco hasn't ever won in Detroit either I don't think, hopefully thats a streak that continues.

EmpireF4i · 05-09-2008, 07:08 PM

Pittsburgh and Fluery played great tonight. Biron and the Flyers didnt do anything really.

foddon · 05-10-2008, 12:03 AM

Yeah, Pens dominated most of that game even with the Flyers seemingly getting away with a lot of penalties. It's pretty hard to compete with a team that can roll out Crosby/Hossa on one line and Malkin on the next (I would mention Sykora, but Malkin really is the one carrying that line - he's just becoming dominant). Hossa looked more like his old self in this game (obviously gained some confidence back after the last game), which is not good for the Flyers if he keeps it up. I thought Crosby played pretty badly by his standards, but they didn't need much out of him for this one.

If their defense can just not be too terrible, they're going to be extremely tough to beat.

EmpireF4i · 05-10-2008, 10:15 AM

The Flyers did lost probably their best player right before this series too.

Eomer · 05-10-2008, 11:58 AM

True, but that doesn't say all that much for their depth on D. I mean yeah Pittsburgh would be hurt if they lost Malkin or Crosby, but I don't think it would affect them nearly to the same extent. But then again, a defensemen like Timmonen or Lidstrom really does anchor a team to a much bigger extent than any forward does.

EmpireF4i · 05-10-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

True, but that doesn't say all that much for their depth on D. I mean yeah Pittsburgh would be hurt if they lost Malkin or Crosby, but I don't think it would affect them nearly to the same extent. But then again, a defensemen like Timmonen or Lidstrom really does anchor a team to a much bigger extent than any forward does.

When Crosby was out for I dont know how many games towards the end of the season, Malkin stepped in and stepped it up big time.

On the other hand, Detroit was hurting back when Lidstrom was hurt during this season.

I think it all depends on the team. Some teams depend on certain players and some teams just play a whole lot better with that player, but can make it through without him.

whocaressd · 05-10-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireF4i

When Crosby was out for I dont know how many games towards the end of the season, Malkin stepped in and stepped it up big time.

On the other hand, Detroit was hurting back when Lidstrom was hurt during this season.

I think it all depends on the team. Some teams depend on certain players and some teams just play a whole lot better with that player, but can make it through without him.

It wasn't just Lidström though, it was like half of their defense, heh. But yea, losing players that play 25+ mins each game hurts, no doubt about it. I'd say Philadelphia is more reliant on Timmonen than Detrois is on Lidström at this point though. Detroit have players like Rafalski and Kronwall to fall back on, flyers don't nearly have the same amount of top class puckhandeling defenders.

foddon · 05-10-2008, 07:09 PM

Fucking Stars are just getting their asses handed to them. Can't say I'm surprised since Detroit has completely owned them the last 5 or so years. Hopefully they'll step it up back home and try to carry some momentum back to the evil Joe.

Man0warr · 05-10-2008, 08:55 PM

I didn't think they played that badly tonight.

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05-08-2008, 08:19 PM	#181 (permalink)
EmpireF4i Right as the mail Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,443 -27 Internets	Egads. Dallas got mowed down. Most of the goals were power play, but Detroit still looked scary

05-09-2008, 05:37 AM	#183 (permalink)
kegkilla Sultan of Swingin on niggaz Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: killadelphia Posts: 1,759 -187 Internets	need to wake up and realize that half of the red wings were alive when the dinosaurs were around. throw some bodies around for fuck's sake. this ain't soccer.

05-09-2008, 07:28 AM	#184 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,823 +29 Internets	That's not really true of the Red Wings anymore. They're actually a fairly young team, with the exception of a few guys like Lidstrom and Chelios. I agree though that a lot of their players, especially Datsyuk and Zetterberg, often disappear if you start hitting them.

05-09-2008, 11:05 AM	#185 (permalink)
Tarrant220 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 434 +9 Internets	Wings on the whole have actually "young'ed" up their roster quite a bit. And words can't be expressed with how glad I am to see Osgood as our goaltender taking us to the cup, I really hope he keeps his performance up.

05-09-2008, 06:14 PM	#187 (permalink)
Tarrant220 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 434 +9 Internets	Turco hasn't ever won in Detroit either I don't think, hopefully thats a streak that continues.

05-09-2008, 07:08 PM	#188 (permalink)
EmpireF4i Right as the mail Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,443 -27 Internets	Pittsburgh and Fluery played great tonight. Biron and the Flyers didnt do anything really.

05-10-2008, 12:03 AM	#189 (permalink)
foddon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 403 +0 Internets	Yeah, Pens dominated most of that game even with the Flyers seemingly getting away with a lot of penalties. It's pretty hard to compete with a team that can roll out Crosby/Hossa on one line and Malkin on the next (I would mention Sykora, but Malkin really is the one carrying that line - he's just becoming dominant). Hossa looked more like his old self in this game (obviously gained some confidence back after the last game), which is not good for the Flyers if he keeps it up. I thought Crosby played pretty badly by his standards, but they didn't need much out of him for this one. If their defense can just not be too terrible, they're going to be extremely tough to beat.

05-10-2008, 10:15 AM	#190 (permalink)
EmpireF4i Right as the mail Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,443 -27 Internets	The Flyers did lost probably their best player right before this series too.

05-10-2008, 11:58 AM	#191 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,823 +29 Internets	True, but that doesn't say all that much for their depth on D. I mean yeah Pittsburgh would be hurt if they lost Malkin or Crosby, but I don't think it would affect them nearly to the same extent. But then again, a defensemen like Timmonen or Lidstrom really does anchor a team to a much bigger extent than any forward does.

05-10-2008, 07:09 PM	#194 (permalink)
foddon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 403 +0 Internets	Fucking Stars are just getting their asses handed to them. Can't say I'm surprised since Detroit has completely owned them the last 5 or so years. Hopefully they'll step it up back home and try to carry some momentum back to the evil Joe.