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Old 10-31-2007, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[NBA] 07-08 Regular Season

Season started last night. Spurs look as boring and dominate as ever. Kobe boo'd, then cheered, then loses. Are L.A. fans all completely nuts?
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hope NBA crashes and burns, sorry to derail your thread.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Season started last night. Spurs look as boring and dominate as ever. Kobe boo'd, then cheered, then loses. Are L.A. fans all completely nuts?
I think they are just all fed up with the is he or isnt he going to be traded. No one knows not even Phil. Its kind of stupid that it has played out like this. Buss and Kobe should equally take the blame for it all. I think Buss is getting senile in his old age though.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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From many fans' perspectives, Kobe is both a drama queen and an ego maniac. He's too impatient to let the Lakers rebuild around him, but can't be enough of a team player to allow for other (formerly?) dominant players (Shaq for example).

Good riddance. He shows none of the potential for maturity of a Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson.

45 points in a game? Who cares? Without working toward building a championship team, it means very little.

The sooner L.A. is without him, the sooner I'll be rooting for the Lakers again.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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From many fans' perspectives, Kobe is both a drama queen and an ego maniac. He's too impatient to let the Lakers rebuild around him, but can't be enough of a team player to allow for other (formerly?) dominant players (Shaq for example).

Good riddance. He shows none of the potential for maturity of a Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson.

45 points in a game? Who cares? Without working toward building a championship team, it means very little.

The sooner L.A. is without him, the sooner I'll be rooting for the Lakers again.
To impatient? dude has no one but lamar odom who's head cannot possibly be 100 percent into basketball right now. He lost his son. I dont care what anyone says, you dont get over that very fast. So outside of Kobe and Lamar they have virtually no one. Andrew Bynum is not going to be a good NBA player. He stands around like a retard half the time.

Kobe has an ego, no doubt about it, but they promised him, and lied to him. Most anyone should do the same. Buss is a piece of shit in my book. I will always be a Laker fan no matter what happens with this, but Buss royally fucked this all up. Ask Shaq how he feels about Buss.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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kobe's the shit:

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Old 11-02-2007, 05:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sonics tell NBA of intent to move SuperSonics to Oklahoma City

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Updated: November 2, 2007, 6:45 PM ET

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SEATTLE -- The Seattle SuperSonics' new owner told the NBA on Friday that he plans to move the team to Oklahoma City.

Clay Bennett had set a Wednesday deadline for having a plan to replace KeyArena, which he says is outdated. He and the city are in a dispute about the arena lease.

He has until March 1 to file for relocation with the NBA if he wants the team to play the 2008-09 season anywhere besides Seattle. The Sonics are the city's oldest major professional sports franchise.

Bennett briefly backed off his deadline, not wanting to distract from the start of the season. He watched Thursday night's home opener against Phoenix from his suite, spending most of the second half chatting with Hall of Famer Bill Russell while fans chanted "Save our Sonics!" during the game.

So Long, Seattle

If the Supersonics are allowed to relocate from Seattle to Oklahoma City, it would be the third time this decade that an NBA team has pulled up stakes. Others to do so in the last three decades:
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"Today we notified commissioner [David] Stern that we intend to relocate the Sonics to Oklahoma City if we succeed in the pending litigation with the city, or are able to negotiate an early lease termination, or at the end of the lease term," Bennett said in a lengthy statement.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank confirmed the league received notice and is referring the matter to the owners' relocation committee.

Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire said the latest development was "no surprise'' and the state will "continue to work with others on the arduous process'' of keeping the Sonics and the WNBA's Storm.

Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett called the news a "significant step'' but urged caution.

"The history of sports is littered with franchises that intended to relocate, said they would relocate and for whatever reason didn't relocate,'' said Cornett, a former television sportscaster. "Things change. I don't anticipate anything changing, but things do change.''

Bennett became owner just more than a year ago and also owns the WNBA's Seattle Storm. He bought the Sonics from a local group led by Starbucks Coffee chairman Howard Schultz for $350 million and has said the club is not for sale. Schultz, also unhappy with KeyArena, and his group paid $200 million for the team in 2001.

Bennett is trying to void the final two years of the lease. The city wants to hold the Sonics to the agreement, which calls for the team to play at KeyArena through the 2009-10 season.

Bennett said the team lost $17 million last year because of the lease. The Sonics had sought arbitration to decide the matter, but this week a federal judge blocked the team from seeking an escape through arbitration. That kept alive the city's attempts to gain a court order forcing the Sonics to play in Seattle.

Bennett championed a proposal this year for a new arena in the suburb of Renton that called for about $300 million in public money. The plan failed to get backing in the state Legislature.

"We now understand and respect that there is very limited public support for such a public investment," Bennett said.

Sonics 'intend to relocate'

Statement from Seattle SuperSonics & Storm chairman Clayton I. Bennett: Story

Bennett long has said he had no intention of splitting the Sonics and Storm, but appeared to hedge on that Friday. He said plans are not set for the WNBA team, which will play the 2008 season in Seattle.

"Mr. Bennett's announcement today is a transparent attempt to alienate the Seattle fan base and follow through on his plan to move the team to Oklahoma City. The deadline for notifying the league of his intent to move is March 1," Seattle City Attorney Tom Carr said. "Making this move now continues the current ownership's insulting behavior toward the Sonics' dedicated fans and the citizens of the city."

"The move today was no surprise," Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire said. "We continue to work with others on the arduous process of keeping the Sonics and Storm in Seattle."

A few hours before Bennett's announcement, a group of local investors offered to buy the Sonics and keep the city's oldest major league professional sports franchise from moving.

The group headed by Dennis H. Daugs, a private wealth manager and managing director of Lakeside Capital Management LLC, issued a news release Friday saying it had written a formal letter of interest to Bennett.

"We want to recapture the spirit and love of basketball in Seattle by bringing the Sonics and Storm back to local ownership," said Daugs, a former minority owner of the NBA franchise.

Dan Mahoney, a spokesman for Bennett, had no comment on Daugs' offer, other than to reiterate that the "teams are not for sale."

"This town loves the Sonics and Storm," Daugs said in the statement. "We have a genuine appreciation of the fan base. We respect the many loyal fans and we want to build a populist movement to keep the teams here. We believe there is strong local support for the Sonics and Storm."
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well this is a lot less exciting than what I hoped for. It seems like a pre-season scrimmage that counts towards their win total (Celtics btw).
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The Raptors are getting no respect after winning the Atlantic last year. They're returning everyone important and added another excellent shooter in Kapono. I realize the Celtics are going to be damn good this year, but I'm seeing preseason rankings that don't even have Toronto making the playoffs. The only teams that might be better than them in the East are Boston and Chicago.

As for the Kobe drama...it's stupid for him to demand a trade, because any team that could make the trade would have to give up so much that he'd be in a worse situation than he's in with the Lakers right now. If they could get a real PG (I know Phil likes the shooters in his triangle offense, but this team doesn't have anyone that can control the offense and keep things moving) then they'd be fine. This is the make or break year for Bynum...it's his 2nd full year in the rotation...he had flashes of brilliance last year, but looked lost too often. I'm hoping something kicks his butt into gear, because I'd like to see him do well.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, I get to be that "guy" on this thread. Yeah, the evil Spurs fan. Born in Austin, raised in SA for most my life. I have been to many game including when they used to play in the Hemisfair Arena, and Alamodome. I have only lived in Houston going on 4 years now, and am no means a Rocket fan (pretty indifferent to them). I have personally played basketball with a few (IE Monty Williams, Antonio Daniels) when they used to work out an Incarnate Word University (where I went to college for 2 1/2 years). I even made the final 5 for a position of IT intern for the Spurs organization, but I didnt get the position (/sigh, Sean and Tim were huge Bnet players apparently)

The above is my disclaimer so no one can say I am bandwagoning. You pretty much wont hear much out of me until the playoffs, most Spurs fans have gotten accustomed to success, regular season is like the preseason, you just pray none of the stars get hurt and hope for a fairly high seed for home court. Playoffs is when the real season starts for most Spurs fans.

Having said that, Spurs will repeat folks.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, I get to be that "guy" on this thread. Yeah, the evil Spurs fan. Born in Austin, raised in SA for most my life. I have been to many game including when they used to play in the Hemisfair Arena, and Alamodome. I have only lived in Houston going on 4 years now, and am no means a Rocket fan (pretty indifferent to them). I have personally played basketball with a few (IE Monty Williams, Antonio Daniels) when they used to work out an Incarnate Word University (where I went to college for 2 1/2 years). I even made the final 5 for a position of IT intern for the Spurs organization, but I didnt get the position (/sigh, Sean and Tim were huge Bnet players apparently)

The above is my disclaimer so no one can say I am bandwagoning. You pretty much wont hear much out of me until the playoffs, most Spurs fans have gotten accustomed to success, regular season is like the preseason, you just pray none of the stars get hurt and hope for a fairly high seed for home court. Playoffs is when the real season starts for most Spurs fans.

Having said that, Spurs will repeat folks.
Just never forget how lucky you are to be a Spurs fans (much like I never forget how lucky I am to be a Pats fan).

Also, I agree about the Raptors getting no love. They're a very good team and the Celtics will not walk away with the Easy that easily. The Wizards won't worry them because they can't stop a JV high school team and when Arenas does't shoot well they're pretty much done for. The Wiz are essentially a shitty Eastern version of the Lakers.

And Phoenix looks fucking dreadful tonight.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The Celtics looked good tonight in their opening game vs the Wizards, they won by 20 or so.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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