[NFL] 2008 Offseason - Page 13

Twobit Whore · 02-26-2008, 11:09 AM

Combine drills show a lot really. 40 shows speed, standing broad jump and vertical show explosiveness off the line. Lifting obviously shows strenght. This is all about conditioning and physical capability. Then you have tests like the Wonderlic and others that show smarts and football IQ. Quick thinking and decision making and adaptation. No, you can't point to any one drill/test and say that guy is good because of it, but you can get an idea of a players condition and potential through the whole picture. Obviously on the field performance and tape trump all, but everything is just a tool for evaluation.

Of course the main thing most people look for at the Combine is the results of medical exams to ensure you don't pick a lame duck.

Akileese · 02-26-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Obviously on the field performance and tape trump all, but everything is just a tool for evaluation..

But see this is becoming the case less and less. Teams are getting way too infatuated with drills and shit and sometimes they seem to forget how guys play. I guarantee there will be one first round mistake where someone took a guy because he had a great combine over someone who can flat out play.

Twobit Whore · 02-26-2008, 02:42 PM

How the hell do you know what teams and scouts rely on most? Are you one? Do you sit in on their meetings? Just because ESPN talks about how someone did in a drill doesn't mean that the front office of your favorite NFL team is banking on it.

And nice 'prediction'. I bet you ONE MILLION DOLLARS that at least one first round pick is a bust! It only happens every single year.

Gigfc · 02-27-2008, 03:25 AM

It's the offseason, can't we all get along?!!

findar · 02-27-2008, 06:37 AM

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It's the offseason, can't we all get along?!!

no, fuck the redskins.

Lenardo · 02-27-2008, 09:52 AM

the combine is useless EXCEPT for players from small schools.

other than that a good 40 time does not equal Great football player (see terrell davis, other running backs that were 3rd 4th 5th undrafted) a great running back just needs to run decent, what he NEEDS is a Solid Offensive Line Blocking for him.

reference: see Denver's ability to turn pretty much anyone into a quality running back.

oh

Patriots just Cut Colvin.

Seau and brewski are free agents pondering retirement...decision is due by next tuesday for them.

Genjiro · 02-27-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by findar

no, fuck the redskins.

You didnt hurt his feelings...hes a Pats fan, not a Skins fan

Akileese · 02-27-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenardo

the combine is useless EXCEPT for players from small schools.

other than that a good 40 time does not equal Great football player (see terrell davis, other running backs that were 3rd 4th 5th undrafted) a great running back just needs to run decent, what he NEEDS is a Solid Offensive Line Blocking for him.

reference: see Denver's ability to turn pretty much anyone into a quality running back.

oh

Patriots just Cut Colvin.

Seau and brewski are free agents pondering retirement...decision is due by next tuesday for them.

I knew they'd cut Colvin. He's such a phenomenal player, but I mean every year we've had him, he's spent a good portion of the year out with injury. I believe in like the 4 years he was with us, he had 3 season ending injuries by mid-season.

Seau and Bruschi will almost certainly come back, but it doesn't really help. We need to get younger and faster. Unfortunately, the guy we want decided to go back to school for one more year. I won't dog him for it though. Education is more important since you never know how your career will pan out.

Lenardo · 02-27-2008, 11:03 AM

if they can somehow get long(Howie's son- Chris i think) and convert him to linebacker, but i think he is going to be gone by the time the pats pick

Gigfc · 02-27-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Genjiro

You didnt hurt his feelings...hes a Pats fan, not a Skins fan

You are a fag.

Also: Pats RB Faulk allegedly busted with pot - Yahoo! News

Sole · 02-27-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gigfc

Also: Pats RB Faulk allegedly busted with pot - Yahoo! News

Take away another draft pick?

Twobit Whore · 02-27-2008, 11:52 AM

Yes, smoking 4 joints at a rap show is worth potential millions.

Akileese · 02-27-2008, 12:04 PM

No. This is serious. Cancel their season and make them forfeit. Add a 25 million dollar fine.

A fucking athlete smoking pot at a rap concert? Stop the fucking presses. You know what would be newsworthy? If he searched him and his entourage and one of them had a cross and a fucking bible. Now THAT would of shocked me.

Sole · 02-27-2008, 12:08 PM

25mil? Make them relocate to Utah, that'll show'em.

Gigfc · 02-27-2008, 12:08 PM

Just posting shit that I see, I don't care if he smokes pot.

02-26-2008, 11:09 AM	#181 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,820 -26 Internets	Combine drills show a lot really. 40 shows speed, standing broad jump and vertical show explosiveness off the line. Lifting obviously shows strenght. This is all about conditioning and physical capability. Then you have tests like the Wonderlic and others that show smarts and football IQ. Quick thinking and decision making and adaptation. No, you can't point to any one drill/test and say that guy is good because of it, but you can get an idea of a players condition and potential through the whole picture. Obviously on the field performance and tape trump all, but everything is just a tool for evaluation. Of course the main thing most people look for at the Combine is the results of medical exams to ensure you don't pick a lame duck. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

02-26-2008, 02:42 PM	#183 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,820 -26 Internets	How the hell do you know what teams and scouts rely on most? Are you one? Do you sit in on their meetings? Just because ESPN talks about how someone did in a drill doesn't mean that the front office of your favorite NFL team is banking on it. And nice 'prediction'. I bet you ONE MILLION DOLLARS that at least one first round pick is a bust! It only happens every single year. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

02-27-2008, 11:52 AM	#192 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,820 -26 Internets	Yes, smoking 4 joints at a rap show is worth potential millions. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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02-27-2008, 03:25 AM	#184 (permalink)
Gigfc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,222 -49 Internets	It's the offseason, can't we all get along?!!

02-27-2008, 09:52 AM	#186 (permalink)
Lenardo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,234 -6 Internets	the combine is useless EXCEPT for players from small schools. other than that a good 40 time does not equal Great football player (see terrell davis, other running backs that were 3rd 4th 5th undrafted) a great running back just needs to run decent, what he NEEDS is a Solid Offensive Line Blocking for him. reference: see Denver's ability to turn pretty much anyone into a quality running back. oh Patriots just Cut Colvin. Seau and brewski are free agents pondering retirement...decision is due by next tuesday for them.

02-27-2008, 11:03 AM	#189 (permalink)
Lenardo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,234 -6 Internets	if they can somehow get long(Howie's son- Chris i think) and convert him to linebacker, but i think he is going to be gone by the time the pats pick

02-27-2008, 12:08 PM	#194 (permalink)
Sole I love me some me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 420 -3 Internets	25mil? Make them relocate to Utah, that'll show'em.

02-27-2008, 12:08 PM	#195 (permalink)
Gigfc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,222 -49 Internets	Just posting shit that I see, I don't care if he smokes pot.