MLB: The Mitchell Report - Page 5

Dennadyne · 12-13-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by calla

bonds is probably not on the list b/c the federal court already has all the stuff on him, and mitchell didn't / couldn't include it in his report

Also, bear in mind: This report is not all encompassing.

This was just one investigation, amirite?

There could be hundreds of doped up athletes, just wait and see.

Ham n Cheese · 12-13-2007, 02:14 PM

Agreeing with Gammons that the Brian Roberts part is total shit

Lyrical · 12-13-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kedwyn

Imagine trying to pick a jury pool if he was on the list and every idiot with a news paper / internet access saw it.

I am not sure why we are penalizing Bonds, when it is clear that there are a ton of other players using it. Sure you can bring up the perjury bla bla bla, but in essence, they all broke the law. Why aren't they going after them too? Or is it just because Bond is black or not likeable that they are trying to crucify him?

Ham n Cheese · 12-13-2007, 02:23 PM

It's about the record, and it's stupid~

Dennadyne · 12-13-2007, 02:24 PM

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I am not sure why we are penalizing Bonds, when it is clear that there are a ton of other players using it. Sure you can bring up the perjury bla bla bla, but in essence, they all broke the law. Why aren't they going after them too? Or is it just because Bond is black or not likeable that they are trying to crucify him?

Cuz they don't want a black man having the home run title! o wait...

Lyrical · 12-13-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennadyne

Cuz they don't want a black man having the home run title! o wait...

Seriously though, I don't see any white athletes being brought up on federal charges. Sure Michael Vick is a bad example, but what about Barry Bonds or Marion Jones (the black female Olympian)? Here you have a list of 80 names that all alledgedly broke the law, but none of those guys (excluding Bonds) is under federal charges.

Dennadyne · 12-13-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyrical

Seriously though, I don't see any white athletes being brought up on federal charges. Sure Michael Vick is a bad example, but what about Barry Bonds or Marion Jones (the black female Olympian)? Here you have a list of 80 names that all alledgedly broke the law, but none of those guys (excluding Bonds) is under federal charges.

He was easy to point the finger at. MLB needed a patsy, and he is it.

calla · 12-13-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyrical

Seriously though, I don't see any white athletes being brought up on federal charges. Sure Michael Vick is a bad example, but what about Barry Bonds or Marion Jones (the black female Olympian)? Here you have a list of 80 names that all alledgedly broke the law, but none of those guys (excluding Bonds) is under federal charges.

barry is under federal charges because the feds can prove he commited perjury. how many other white athletes are there in this similar situation?

If nothing happens to clemens, then i'd say you have a fair point lyrical.

Lyrical · 12-13-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by calla

barry is under federal charges because the feds can prove he commited perjury. how many other white athletes are there in this similar situation?

If nothing happens to clemens, then i'd say you have a fair point lyrical.

What's the difference between perjury and using steroids? Its illegal either way.

Also, did Clemens appear before Congress and state he didn't take roids? I can't remember.

Braen · 12-13-2007, 02:50 PM

You know Palmerio also said before congress that he didn't take steriods and he isn't up on charges I don't think. That pretty much sinks your theory that whitey is out to get the other minorities.

hamrlik · 12-13-2007, 02:51 PM

This wasn't a federal investigation. It wasn't even a criminal investigation. It was an investigation on the use of steroids and other illegal substances in baseball. (I do realize that using illegal substances is a crime, but it wasn't the point of this investigation.) I'm pretty sure most of it would be considered hearsay in a criminal court anyway.

sticktastic · 12-13-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Braen

You know Palmerio also said before congress that he didn't take steriods and he isn't up on charges I don't think. That pretty much sinks your theory that whitey is out to get the other minorities.

He also said he got the shot he took from tejada, which at that point people scoffed and turn their heads, looks like sweet swing might have had some truth in it after all.

arkk91 · 12-13-2007, 03:02 PM

I love how Selig talks about HGH and it being undetectable like takiing HGH alone will do anything serious for a ball player. HGH is used in the fitness world for fat loss. Thats it. It's other effects aren't prominent unless combines with aas, or aas + insulin.

HGH as a standalone is nothing serious.

Twobit Whore · 12-13-2007, 03:12 PM

Mitchell went over this. No one has been criminally charged for using steroids. In the past couple of years 250 people have been suspended from minor or major league baseball for violating the substance abuse policy. Zero have faced criminal charges. They don't care about the users, they care about the makers and sellers.

Bonds is not being charged with using drugs, he is being charged with lying about the use of them.

Akileese · 12-13-2007, 03:56 PM

Congress is just pissed that he went up there, blatantly lied in their faces so they're going after him hard.

Someone needs to whip up a Clemens cheater.gif so I can throw it on YTMND.

Also, Clemens claims he's innocent despite the fact that they seem to have insurmountable evidence and testimony against him. Tremendous.

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,352 -18 Internets	Mitchell went over this. No one has been criminally charged for using steroids. In the past couple of years 250 people have been suspended from minor or major league baseball for violating the substance abuse policy. Zero have faced criminal charges. They don't care about the users, they care about the makers and sellers. Bonds is not being charged with using drugs, he is being charged with lying about the use of them. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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12-13-2007, 02:14 PM	#62 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,886 +19 Internets	Agreeing with Gammons that the Brian Roberts part is total shit

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Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,886 +19 Internets	It's about the record, and it's stupid~

12-13-2007, 03:02 PM	#73 (permalink)
arkk91 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 397 -1 Internets	I love how Selig talks about HGH and it being undetectable like takiing HGH alone will do anything serious for a ball player. HGH is used in the fitness world for fat loss. Thats it. It's other effects aren't prominent unless combines with aas, or aas + insulin. HGH as a standalone is nothing serious.