[NFL] 2007 Season

[Genjiro]

You come across as one. And no, you cant even fucking include a WR into the debate who drops more passes than anyone else at that position, period. Moss vs Rice is debatable, and Im sure im in the minority which is fine, I think its still something you can make a case for.

TO? Get the fuck out of town, not even in the same realm.

[Twobit Whore]

So TO dropped 15 passes last year and has a few this year. That totally invalidates his entire body of work! Hell, Moss sucked ass in Oakland.. he is terrible.. worst WR ever by your logic.

[Grimmlokk]

Originally Posted by Genjiro

Moss vs Rice is debatable, and Im sure im in the minority which is fine, I think its still something you can make a case for.
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Me vs. Rice is debatable. You'd just lose every single time if you chose to argue my side. Or Moss'.

Moss is a touchdown machine, but he wasted 4 years in his prime because he's a selfish fuck. If he hadn't completely dogged it those years(not games, entire fucking SEASONS) he'd be on pace to blow away most of Rice's records. He's great when he feels like it, Rice was great every single down of every single game. Moss has had 7 good games this year and suddenly that's enough to compare him to Rice's 18 productive seasons. Give it a few years before you start blowing him quite this hard. People were talking like this back in '03 when he was destroying everyone, then he decided to take a break for a few years.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

Me vs. Rice is debatable. You'd just lose every single time if you chose to argue my side. Or Moss'.

Moss is a touchdown machine, but he wasted 4 years in his prime because he's a selfish fuck. If he hadn't completely dogged it those years(not games, entire fucking SEASONS) he'd be on pace to blow away most of Rice's records. He's great when he feels like it, Rice was great every single down of every single game. Moss has had 7 good games this year and suddenly that's enough to compare him to Rice's 18 productive seasons. Give it a few years before you start blowing him quite this hard. People were talking like this back in '03 when he was destroying everyone, then he decided to take a break for a few years.

We have a winner. Moss could have been up there with Jerry. Jerry is in a class all by himself. He's not a selfish prick. He worked his ass off EVERY YEAR he played in the NFL. He never dogged it, he never threw his team under the buss. Rice gave 100 percent every time he was playing.

Moss is a great WR, i wont ever deny that, but he's not in Rice's class. YOu cannot debate the 2. Rice is the greatest football player to ever play the game IMO. He has the rings, he has the longevity and just about every season and career receiving record there is.


Rice>Moss Moss>himself in the end.

[Twobit Whore]

Ronnie Brown = torn ACL during that interception. Done for the year. Dolphins very well could go 0-16.

Hell, maybe they can get Ricky Williams back.

[kedwyn]

Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

Me vs. Rice is debatable. You'd just lose every single time if you chose to argue my side. Or Moss'.

Moss is a touchdown machine, but he wasted 4 years in his prime because he's a selfish fuck. If he hadn't completely dogged it those years(not games, entire fucking SEASONS) he'd be on pace to blow away most of Rice's records. He's great when he feels like it, Rice was great every single down of every single game. Moss has had 7 good games this year and suddenly that's enough to compare him to Rice's 18 productive seasons. Give it a few years before you start blowing him quite this hard. People were talking like this back in '03 when he was destroying everyone, then he decided to take a break for a few years.

Wow, an intelligent post on FOH?

[kaid]

I won't ever deny that Randy Moss could be one of the best WR ever when he chooses to play. His main issue has always been if the game is not going well or he is feeling down about his team he just packs it in and blows the game off.

Unfortunatly for the league now he is on a great football team which will keep him interested in the games and thus being all the freak ass he can be. Jesus some of those TD he caught yesterday were crazy hell you have two guys man handling you in the end zone ah hell throw it to randy anyway he will catch it bang TD.

[Akileese]

Ronnie Brown is out for the year. If there was any question on the Dolphins going 0-16, this just ended that discussion. Well, unless the NFL magically schedules the Rams so there aren't TWO winless teams.

over/under on how many tickets the NFL gave away for the game in London? The biggest problem is the fact that Arsenal v Liverpool will still be going on when they kickoff. In fact, they should be nearing or at half time. Not only that, but Tottenham are playing a game that starts at 11AM EST at White Hart Lane in London. I think this will effect attendance greatly. I say there's 60k there with 20-25k payed.

[Urlithani]

It was just too much to ask to lose by 21 points. Nope, Brown had to get injured. The only bright spot on the whole team

I still don't think Miami will go winless, since Buffalo and the Jets are a combined 3-10, so they're not much better. I think it'll be easier for the Patriots to go undefeated since they won't be having much competition from the rest of the AFC East. Even after Brown was hurt Chatman got about 70 yards in 7 carries, so the offense is better every week.

[Moontayle]

Colts 6-0. If Carolina doesn't pose any problems then it's looking like another unbeaten showdown in week 9.

[Draegan]

The London game is gonna be packed. I know people going to Europe for a vacation just for that game. I think there was something like 40k tickets sold in the first 90 minutes.

[Brogarn]

Wow. Didn't realize the NFL was that popular over there.

I was thinking about this and was wondering if season ticket holders don't get kinda screwed with these overseas games. I mean, this is considered a Miami home game, yet Miami's fans aren't exactly going to fly over to London to see it. I don't mean just because they suck this year, I just can't imagine many people being able to afford that. And when they start doing 4 of these a year down the road (something they're shooting for), aren't fans here in the U.S. going to suffer?

I see what the NFL is doing. They're trying to expand their base and increase their profits. Nothing wrong with that. I also assume that eventually, way down the road, maybe they're going to try another league in Europe or maybe include them in our games. I know Europa whatever it was called failed miserably. But I'm just guessing that's their end goal. In the meantime, though, won't U.S. fans suffer this attempt at expansion?

[Twobit Whore]

Home team fans will suffer, specifically season ticket holders.. because basically you get 7 tickets for the price of 8. I'm not even sure why they are doing this.. didn't they shut down the Euro NFL league due to non-interest? Maybe Europeans don't like the sport, just our teams. Or maybe most of the crowd is Americans abroad or Americans looking for a good excuse to travel.

[Genjiro]

Luckily its a Miami home game, where the season ticket holders probably dont bother going, ho ho. Seriously though, the whole cultural sport identity plays out here, american football will never be that popular in Europe, same way soccer will never be here.

If the Super Bowl ends up there, you will see some seriously pissed off fans.

[Grimmlokk]

I figure it's along the lines of when the World Cup was here.

Also, wanna talk about season ticket holders getting fucked? When Arizona played in Mexico last year or whenever it was they got charged for the game. Had to pay full 8 game price for 7 games. I'm not sure if that's happening with Miami too, but man talk about spitting in the face of your supporters.