2007 English Premier League - Page 41

Ossoi · 04-10-2008, 09:33 AM

Wow you really do make Akileese look like Michel Platini or some shit.

You said Torres wasn't "integral" to Liverpool then compared him with various playmakers like Ronaldhino and Kaka etc

I said of course not his job is to score goals, its Gerrards job to be the playmaker.

I then pointed out how Gerrard is playing as an attacking midfielder/second striker in Liverpools current formation, which you respond to by bringing up his defensive ability = wtf

You're not talking about Liverpool, but you are talking about Torres and Gerrard, last time I checked they both wore red shirts...

Let me draw you a diagram

Torres

Babel Gerrard Kuyt

Alonso Mascherano

That's how Liverpool line up: two defensive midfielders, 3 attacking midfielders and 1 centre forward. This formation has always been Benitez's preferred system since his Valencia days, he just hasn't had the personnel to implement effectively at Liverpool until now.

Yes Gerrard is a phenomenal player, probably the best all around player in the world (can play CM, DM, AM, LM, RM, SS, RB and excel in every position) but in Liverpools current formation he has very little defensive responsibility and his job is to set up Torres and score goals. Considering he's already got 20 goals in all comps and probably a similar number of assists (cant find the exact stat) I'd say its working pretty well.

Mimirswell · 04-10-2008, 09:52 AM

Gerrard has 20 goals and 18 assists this season in all competitions. 10 goals and 10 assists in the Premier League.

slitz · 04-10-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ossoi

You said Torres wasn't "integral" to Liverpool then compared him with various playmakers like Ronaldhino and Kaka etc

I was trying to explain what the person *might have meant* when he said that he didn't think Torres was a spectacular player. Nothing more, nothing less.

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I then pointed out how Gerrard is playing as an attacking midfielder/second striker in Liverpools current formation, which you respond to by bringing up his defensive ability = wtf

Yes Gerrard is currently playing as an attacking midfielder, he is more of a balanced midfielder imo however, since well, that's basically how he have been playing the last 10 years including in the national team.
Mind you, before you get a erection from this statement, I'm not saying he's currently a balanced midfielder, but due to his history I wouldn't be so fast to say he's a Kaká / Ronaldinho type of player just yet.

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You're not talking about Liverpool, but you are talking about Torres and Gerrard, last time I checked they both wore red shirts...

No shit Sherlock...
Should I reply with "Do you even watch Milan or Real Madrid play?" just because you mention Nistelrooy and Kaká?

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Yes Gerrard is a phenomenal player, probably the best all around player in the world (can play CM, DM, AM, LM, RM, SS, RB and excel in every position) but in Liverpools current formation he has very little defensive responsibility and his job is to set up Torres and score goals. Considering he's already got 20 goals in all comps and probably a similar number of assists (cant find the exact stat) I'd say its working pretty well.

Ok let me explain this once and for all so you might get this through your thick skull. Nowhere did I say that Torres wasn't about scoring, nor did I say he wasn't a good striker (in fact I do believe I said he was probably the best atm), I was merely "defending" a statement saying that Torres wasn't a spectacular player [a statement which wasn't mine in the first place]. I was trying to come up with a reasoning since you're so darn fast calling everyone retards just because they don't agree with you.
Comprende?

Regime · 04-10-2008, 11:16 AM

In the end the Gunners were gunned down

You should Never walk alone!

slitz · 04-10-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Regime

In the end the Gunners were gunned down

You should Never walk alone!

Hey now, wasn't Celtic first with that?

8)

Zanna'Dar · 04-11-2008, 01:55 AM

What the fuck Bayern Munchen? Them lucky bastards. They never deserved to qualify. After having spent so much on transfers, you'd think you could actually watch some quality football.

I really feel bad for Getafe; they did deserve everything in last night's game.

Congrats to Michael Laudrup for making the team even better after Schuster left. I hope they can beat Valencia next week to win the King's Cup.

Akileese · 04-11-2008, 05:58 PM

Dwarf soccer team make it big | Video | Reuters.com

Regime · 04-11-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Akileese

Dwarf soccer team make it big | Video | Reuters.com

Ak that was one hell of a link. When the guy interviewed said that about the dwarves and the star was talking, strong stuff. I thought it was going to be a joke and was completely touched. Got your 2007 red sox feel good thread now this too.

Akileese · 04-12-2008, 06:56 AM

ESPNsoccernet - Europe - Ronaldinho agrees general terms with AC Milan

I guess it wasn't beat into the ground enough back in the off-season.

Faille · 04-12-2008, 09:22 AM

Nice to see Evertone draw. Looking very unlikely that they will pinch 4th from us now.

Akileese · 04-13-2008, 09:09 AM

ADEBAYOR!!!!!!!

UGH...so close to being a 2nd goal and 3 points in the right direction. I totally forgot that Man U still plays Chelsea, with 5 to play, us winning the league isn't totally out of reach.

God dammit.I mean god dammit. What is it with these HORRIBLE penalties. He lifts his arm, tries to move it away, it nips his fingers, penalty. Terrible call.

Kiely · 04-13-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Akileese

ADEBAYOR!!!!!!!

I saw it go in off his hand. Ironically, 1-1 for another handball. Nice!

Akileese · 04-13-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiely

I saw it go in off his hand. Ironically, 1-1 for another handball. Nice!

It hit his head dude. How fucking oblivious do you have to be. He lowered his head down, you can CLEARLY see it hit his head on the sky cam.

Gallas however, I mean, when a ball is lined to you, and you make an effort, what do you want the man to do? He arched his arm in a specific way that the ball could go directly through it without hitting it. I won't deny it his fingers, but what more do you want the guy to do aside from dropping to ground and leaving a man unmarked? I always felt penalties should never be given on handballs unless a player blatantly uses it to make contact.

Awesome. Carrick tugs him, Hleb puts an arm on him, Carrick crashes, free kick. This game is starting to get out of hand with the one-sided calls.

Good for you Ade. Good for you taking that cocksucker the fuck down. Webb can suck my fucking dick. Anderson fucking grabbed him and took him down with him and then there was no call of course.

Akileese · 04-13-2008, 09:34 AM

The fact that no one moved and that the whistle came halfway through the free kick makes me wonder what the fuck just happened.

Kiely · 04-13-2008, 09:44 AM

Cmon quit whining, this is a great match. Don't think theres much to complain about the decisions, it happens.

04-10-2008, 09:33 AM	#601 (permalink)
Ossoi Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 518 -10 Internets	Wow you really do make Akileese look like Michel Platini or some shit. You said Torres wasn't "integral" to Liverpool then compared him with various playmakers like Ronaldhino and Kaka etc I said of course not his job is to score goals, its Gerrards job to be the playmaker. I then pointed out how Gerrard is playing as an attacking midfielder/second striker in Liverpools current formation, which you respond to by bringing up his defensive ability = wtf You're not talking about Liverpool, but you are talking about Torres and Gerrard, last time I checked they both wore red shirts... Let me draw you a diagram Torres Babel Gerrard Kuyt Alonso Mascherano That's how Liverpool line up: two defensive midfielders, 3 attacking midfielders and 1 centre forward. This formation has always been Benitez's preferred system since his Valencia days, he just hasn't had the personnel to implement effectively at Liverpool until now. Yes Gerrard is a phenomenal player, probably the best all around player in the world (can play CM, DM, AM, LM, RM, SS, RB and excel in every position) but in Liverpools current formation he has very little defensive responsibility and his job is to set up Torres and score goals. Considering he's already got 20 goals in all comps and probably a similar number of assists (cant find the exact stat) I'd say its working pretty well. Last edited by Ossoi : 04-10-2008 at 09:36 AM.

04-12-2008, 09:22 AM	#610 (permalink)
Faille Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,634 +9 Internets	Nice to see Evertone draw. Looking very unlikely that they will pinch 4th from us now. __________________ Faille Fires of Heaven http://www.fohguild.org/forums/uberw...lopment-forum/

04-13-2008, 09:44 AM	#615 (permalink)
Kiely He who dares, wins Rodders. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,071 +1 Internets	Cmon quit whining, this is a great match. Don't think theres much to complain about the decisions, it happens. __________________ Ban deep thought.

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04-10-2008, 09:52 AM	#602 (permalink)
Mimirswell ex scientia lux Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 459	Gerrard has 20 goals and 18 assists this season in all competitions. 10 goals and 10 assists in the Premier League.

04-11-2008, 01:55 AM	#606 (permalink)
Zanna'Dar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 300 +1 Internets	What the fuck Bayern Munchen? Them lucky bastards. They never deserved to qualify. After having spent so much on transfers, you'd think you could actually watch some quality football. I really feel bad for Getafe; they did deserve everything in last night's game. Congrats to Michael Laudrup for making the team even better after Schuster left. I hope they can beat Valencia next week to win the King's Cup.