[CFB] College Football Preseason

[cdyhybrid]

Ohio State would not have been there had they not been ranked #1 preseason. They made it to the title game because they didn't lose, so there was no reason to drop them from #1. When they actually got to the title game and played an elite team they got badly exposed. They were good, but not in the same class as Florida.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid

Ohio State would not have been there had they not been ranked #1 preseason. They made it to the title game because they didn't lose, so there was no reason to drop them from #1. When they actually got to the title game and played an elite team they got badly exposed. They were good, but not in the same class as Florida.

if osu was ranked 20, they would've climbed to 1. upsets happen all the time.

if they were to play 10 times in a row with ginn healthy, they would win the majority. but on that night osu lost ginn, were lazy, and florida wanted blood. welcome to college football.

[Twobit Whore]

They could have been unranked and ended up #1. Beating #2 Texas would have put them near the top 10. Add in a few other decent teams and they climb more. Beating Michigan at #2 would have vaulted them to at least #2, and probably #1 since USC and Fla. had both lost a game by then.

[Algol Devilstar]

I love college football, my favorite sport by far. So many damn games I just sit right in front of my big screen with my icey drink and flip thru the games. I used to watch ESPN sportscenter, but so many networks provide up to the minute scores and highlights I don't bother anymore.

P.S. What is with ESPN doing a sports drama? "bronx is burning" or some shit. I feel like they are becoming the MTV of 2000. Less drama, more sports bitches(real sports).

[cdyhybrid]

This argument is really pointless, but their schedule wasn't that strong in hindsight. Texas was good but not great, Michigan was very good but overrated, Wisconsin was good, but those are really the only good wins they had. It's not like they shouldn't have been there, they did what they had to do to get there, but they were there because better teams that had much tougher schedules had lost a game or two.

And one player does not change a 27-point loss into a win. Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart could not have saved OSU that night, and Ginn does not compare to either in terms of effect on the game.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Algol Devilstar

I love college football, my favorite sport by far. So many damn games I just sit right in front of my big screen with my icey drink and flip thru the games. I used to watch ESPN sportscenter, but so many networks provide up to the minute scores and highlights I don't bother anymore.

P.S. What is with ESPN doing a sports drama? "bronx is burning" or some shit. I feel like they are becoming the MTV of 2000. Less drama, more sports bitches(real sports).

Not the first time they have done this. They did that movie 23 a couple of years ago, which was really good. I've been catching some of the Bronx stuff and it too is good. I think it's just filler. This is the boring stretch of the sports year. Nothing but mid-season baseball /yawn. Wake me up when it's the playoffs.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by cdyhybrid

This argument is really pointless, but their schedule wasn't that strong in hindsight. Texas was good but not great, Michigan was very good but overrated, Wisconsin was good, but those are really the only good wins they had. It's not like they shouldn't have been there, they did what they had to do to get there, but they were there because better teams that had much tougher schedules had lost a game or two.

the sec is seriously overrated. very very overrated. last year penn state and wisconsin beat arkansas and tenn. wasn't arkansas in the sec title game?

osu deserved to be there more than anyone else in the country. florida lost a game, and it was by meyer's whining they got in. not saying they shouldn't have been there, but you lose a game, it's not up to you anymore.

And one player does not change a 27-point loss into a win. Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart could not have saved OSU that night, and Ginn does not compare to either in terms of effect on the game.

it's not what ginn did that would've made the difference. it would've been his just being on the field. he spreads the defense out. with him out, there was no reason whatsoever to spread it. meyer prolly creamed his pants when he saw him on crutches.

[psu199]

if they were to play 10 times in a row with ginn healthy, they would win the majority. but on that night osu lost ginn, were lazy, and florida wanted blood. welcome to college football.

Come on now, I know you're biased, but that's too much. OSU got exposed on both sides of the ball. Ginn would have given them an offensive weapon to match the speed of Florida, but they had no answer on defense, and no that's what really matters.

Even if Ginn goes crazy for 150 yards and 2 scores, and keeps Florida off the field once or twice with first down catches, it's not a 27 point swing. Florida was just too athletic for OSU.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by psu199

Come on now, I know you're biased, but that's too much. OSU got exposed on both sides of the ball. Ginn would have given them an offensive weapon to match the speed of Florida, but they had no answer on defense, and no that's what really matters.

Even if Ginn goes crazy for 150 yards and 2 scores, and keeps Florida off the field once or twice with first down catches, it's not a 27 point swing. Florida was just too athletic for OSU.

of course ginn wouldn't have won the game by himself, but there was no long range threat whatsoever with him gone. gonzo and the others depended on the coverage on ginn to get looks. that's how the osu offense worked. not having ginn kinda fucked them in the ass. if you think meyer didn't exploit that like crazy, you're crazy. osu's mistake was not adjusting.. should've just pounded the ball with pittman and wells and forgot about the spread.

well.. maybe he would've won the game by himself.. he scored in the first 8secs!

edit: but yea, osu D was pathetic, and D does win championships (like in 02).

[Mario Speedwagon]

Jesus please no do not start that conversation about the NC game again.

Anyways, I am extremely pumped for the football season this year. WVU is looking to have an absolute stellar year. One of the top offenses in the country(if not the top offense at this point) and a slowly improving defense that will, hopefully, be able to hold its own this year against some the more difficult opponents. With the addition of Noel Devine to the backfield that already contains Pat White and Steve Slaton our running game will pretty much be unpredictable and unstoppable. I am very confident in at least a top 5 finish or, if providing an undefeated season(which looks very possible), a spot in the NC game.

[psu199]

I really liked what I saw out of Anthony Morelli in the Outback bowl, if he can play good mistake free football, and if Austin Scott comes back healthy from his injury, I think the Nittney Lions will surprise some people this year. They have a lot of speed at receiver, and they have a pretty experienced defense, with Dan Conner ready to fill in the holes that Paul Pozsluzney's graduation will have left.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by psu199

I really liked what I saw out of Anthony Morelli in the Outback bowl, if he can play good mistake free football, and if Austin Scott comes back healthy from his injury, I think the Nittney Lions will surprise some people this year. They have a lot of speed at receiver, and they have a pretty experienced defense, with Dan Conner ready to fill in the holes that Paul Pozsluzney's graduation will have left.

yea.. osu at happy valley scares me. i think morelli is 2nd best qb in the big10, right behind henne.

[Jadaki]

Originally Posted by Dumar

it's gonna be an exciting season. my buckeyes need to make up for the embarrassment in glendale. they'll probably start at preseason #10-12, should go 8-0 up to their last three games, which i'm predicting 1-2 losses. my hopes are at least BCS game. their first test though is UW on the road on sept30.

usc should clean house, but it'll be exciting to watch if louisville or wvu can go all the way. michigan and wisc might be there, too.

Rivals.com has been putting up their top 50 with breakdowns on both sides of the ball.

1. USC
2. WVU
3. LSU
4. Michigan
5. Florida
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Wisconsin
9. Oklahoma
10. Ohio State

[WillzZz]

JFC Dumar stay the fuck out of CFB threads if you can't let that game go.

Who do you guys think Michigan should pick up for a new opponent now that ND is dropping the contract in '11? ND picked up Oklahoma, which will usually yield a decent game, but I'd love to see Michigan pick up a real national power for a few years. Playing a usually poor, usually overrated ND team certainly doesn't compare to the matchup they'd get from a true national power. I'd love to see it be a BigEast team (Louisville?) or even Miami, who I'm sure will get back to where they were by then. ACC and BigEast both need some out of conference help when it comes to making an exciting schedule. Nothing like an unbeaten season revolving around one game o_0

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Jadaki

Rivals.com has been putting up their top 50 with breakdowns on both sides of the ball.

1. USC (breakdown will be up tomorrow)
2. WVU
3. LSU
4. Michigan
5. Florida
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Wisconsin
9. Oklahoma
10. Ohio State

i really have not a clue how they got lsu at 3.