[CFB] College Football Preseason - Page 11

Kolle · 09-05-2007, 04:43 PM

arkansas grew a lot after that usc game. they became a much better team.

still, usc apparently gets too much talent those cheaters.

Dumar · 09-05-2007, 05:25 PM

usc has the entire west coast to get talent. no other pac10 school even has a chance. back on the east coast, you've got tons of sec schools in the south competing with each other, and tons of big10 schools in the north competing with each other. petey pretty much has the entire west coast to himself.

it's not gonna change until more pac10 schools step up. ucla and oregon are making baby steps.

Druixx · 09-05-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumar

it's not gonna change until more pac10 schools step up. ucla and oregon are making baby steps.

Like Oregon getting curbstomped last season in the Las Vegas Bowl to a "lesser opponent" from the MWC? Baby steps backwards maybe...

cdyhybrid · 09-06-2007, 02:31 PM

Oregon sucks balls and will never be anything more than a walking Nike advertisement. Cal, UCLA, and Oregon State are likely the next Pac-10 schools to start having success (Cal is already there). The only problem is that the only way two Pac-10 teams could play in BCS games is if one is in the National Championship game. Otherwise you'll have overrated "popular" programs taking their spots because they bring in more money (see: Michigan, Notre Dame). Luckily both of those teams are pretty much out already (I doubt Michigan will run the table the rest of the season).

Genjiro · 09-06-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Umm, last year Arkansas wasn't even near the top 25 and they were a favorite for making the title game until they lost a couple of games to close the year out. That's after they got blown out by USC to open the season.

I think Rutgers is another example of that. Im pretty sure they started way the fuck out of the top 25 last year.

Tea on tuesday · 09-06-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Genjiro

I think Rutgers is another example of that. Im pretty sure they started way the fuck out of the top 25 last year.

Rutgers was never in the national championship picture.

I don't think Arkansas could have leapfrogged Michigan if they'd have won out, but you obviously do, so we'll just have to disagree there.

In the meantime what the fuck is up with Louisville? I mean I know the defense is bad, but 40 points to middle tennessee bad?

I continue to be excited about UC this year. I think the Big East could come down to Cincy vs. WV late in the season. It's sad to go to a bearcats game though and see the stadium half full, but $15 tickets and no lines for what will probably be a top 25 team in a few weeks...that has got to be one of the best deals in college.

Twobit Whore · 09-06-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tea on tuesday

I don't think Arkansas could have leapfrogged Michigan if they'd have won out, but you obviously do, so we'll just have to disagree there.

They were number 5 with LSU and the SEC championship to play. 2 top 10 (4 and 8?) teams. They most certainly would have lept Michigan in the BCS, especially after the OSU loss.

Genjiro · 09-06-2007, 09:49 PM

Uh, at one point they were in the talks about possibly making the NC game. Rutgers was in the top 10 after beating Louisville and going into late November undefeated, they could have been in the big game if they had run the table with some other teams losing. I remember seeing the whatif segment last year showing who could be in the national championship game and what it likely took for them to get there. At that point in time, with certain teams losing at the end of the season and RU going undefeated, it was still very possible. They choked late in the season though and lost to Cincinatti and then WVU.

Point is, they were way the fuck out of the top 25 and could have played for the NC if the chips fell right.

Twobit Whore · 09-07-2007, 06:06 AM

It is definitely a lot harder for a non-BCS school to come out of nowhere and make it though, but certainly not impossible. If they go undefeated and happen to play a few ranked teams along the way then they have just as good of a shot as anyone. Usually the reason they don't make it is that they don't play enough good teams. Boise state played 5 bowl bound teams, but only one was a BCS team (Oregon State), 3 of them were fellow WAC schools including Hawaii who would play in the Hawaii bowl with no wins, and none of them were ranked.

Jadaki · 09-07-2007, 02:21 PM

Preseason polls are the reason Auburn didn't get to play USC in the title game a few years ago instead of Oklahoma. They started that year just outside the top 25, ran the table and because they were so far behind in the polls from starting so low that year, when Oklahoma lost the Big-12 title game they didn't leapfrog them like they should have.

Twobit Whore · 09-07-2007, 02:48 PM

Um, Oklahoma was undefeated until the BCS title game in 2004. That was the year we had 3 undefeated teams until the very end. It was really a coin flip for that one and both schools had a good argument to make. That isn't a preseason poll problem, it's a bowl setup (lack of playoffs) problem.

Genjiro · 09-08-2007, 02:11 PM

Poor Michigan.... Oregon is kicking the living shit out of them at the big house. Someone tell Michigan this is the next millenium and what the spread offense does, apparently they still have no clue what that offense is/does since they looked like a bunch of deer trapped in headlights. Oregon has 395 yards of offense with 3 mins left in the first half against their D, I wish we played them at the big house.

kcxiv · 09-08-2007, 02:20 PM

wow. 32-7 at halftime. lol

Ham n Cheese · 09-08-2007, 02:25 PM

have been loving this oregon game haha.

how about OU putting up 50+ on Miami? Big 12 looks great this year

Twobit Whore · 09-08-2007, 02:29 PM

OSU barely squeaked by Akron too. Wisconsin may be the only solid hope the Big 10 has this year.

09-06-2007, 09:49 PM	#158 (permalink)
Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,713	Uh, at one point they were in the talks about possibly making the NC game. Rutgers was in the top 10 after beating Louisville and going into late November undefeated, they could have been in the big game if they had run the table with some other teams losing. I remember seeing the whatif segment last year showing who could be in the national championship game and what it likely took for them to get there. At that point in time, with certain teams losing at the end of the season and RU going undefeated, it was still very possible. They choked late in the season though and lost to Cincinatti and then WVU. Point is, they were way the fuck out of the top 25 and could have played for the NC if the chips fell right. __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) Fraschilla: "What are your adjustments for the second half?" Huggins: "Maybe make a basket...I think if we make a basketball we might like it and make some more."

09-08-2007, 02:11 PM	#162 (permalink)
Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,713	Poor Michigan.... Oregon is kicking the living shit out of them at the big house. Someone tell Michigan this is the next millenium and what the spread offense does, apparently they still have no clue what that offense is/does since they looked like a bunch of deer trapped in headlights. Oregon has 395 yards of offense with 3 mins left in the first half against their D, I wish we played them at the big house. __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) Fraschilla: "What are your adjustments for the second half?" Huggins: "Maybe make a basket...I think if we make a basketball we might like it and make some more."

09-08-2007, 02:20 PM	#163 (permalink)
kcxiv Manny, Manny, Manny Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Valley, Cali Posts: 3,191	wow. 32-7 at halftime. lol __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72HNX6bJ2ag www.halcyonaffinity.org

09-08-2007, 02:25 PM	#164 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,665 +20 Internets	have been loving this oregon game haha. how about OU putting up 50+ on Miami? Big 12 looks great this year __________________ Xeph Caito Cao'Li Hunky Dory

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09-05-2007, 04:43 PM	#151 (permalink)
Kolle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,879 -25 Internets	arkansas grew a lot after that usc game. they became a much better team. still, usc apparently gets too much talent those cheaters.

09-06-2007, 02:31 PM	#154 (permalink)
cdyhybrid Go Dawgs! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oahu/Seattle Posts: 586 +1 Internets	Oregon sucks balls and will never be anything more than a walking Nike advertisement. Cal, UCLA, and Oregon State are likely the next Pac-10 schools to start having success (Cal is already there). The only problem is that the only way two Pac-10 teams could play in BCS games is if one is in the National Championship game. Otherwise you'll have overrated "popular" programs taking their spots because they bring in more money (see: Michigan, Notre Dame). Luckily both of those teams are pretty much out already (I doubt Michigan will run the table the rest of the season).

09-07-2007, 06:06 AM	#159 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,047 -23 Internets	It is definitely a lot harder for a non-BCS school to come out of nowhere and make it though, but certainly not impossible. If they go undefeated and happen to play a few ranked teams along the way then they have just as good of a shot as anyone. Usually the reason they don't make it is that they don't play enough good teams. Boise state played 5 bowl bound teams, but only one was a BCS team (Oregon State), 3 of them were fellow WAC schools including Hawaii who would play in the Hawaii bowl with no wins, and none of them were ranked.

09-07-2007, 02:21 PM	#160 (permalink)
Jadaki This space for rent! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,236 -3 Internets	Preseason polls are the reason Auburn didn't get to play USC in the title game a few years ago instead of Oklahoma. They started that year just outside the top 25, ran the table and because they were so far behind in the polls from starting so low that year, when Oklahoma lost the Big-12 title game they didn't leapfrog them like they should have.

09-07-2007, 02:48 PM	#161 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,047 -23 Internets	Um, Oklahoma was undefeated until the BCS title game in 2004. That was the year we had 3 undefeated teams until the very end. It was really a coin flip for that one and both schools had a good argument to make. That isn't a preseason poll problem, it's a bowl setup (lack of playoffs) problem.

09-08-2007, 02:29 PM	#165 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,047 -23 Internets	OSU barely squeaked by Akron too. Wisconsin may be the only solid hope the Big 10 has this year.