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Old 06-25-2007, 10:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Not to sidetrack this (it is very sad) but if it was a murder/suicide I always wonder if steriods played a role in this:

Psychological Effects of Steroids:

Steroids have been reported to increase a persons aggressiveness or lead them to become more violent. This is sometimes called a "roid rage," defined as a manic rage where the user displays episodes of outright aggression and/or violent feelings and actions. Though scientific evidence is hard to find in support of roid rages, there are a large number of individual accounts of users who describe their own uncharacteristic aggressive behavior while under the influence of anabolic steroids.

In addition, many users report feeling good about themselves while on anabolic steroids, but researchers report that extreme mood swings can also occur. Depression is often seen when the drugs are stopped and may contribute to a dependence on anabolic steroids. Researchers further report that users may suffer from paranoid jealousy, extreme irritability, delusions, and impaired judgment stemming from feelings of invincibility.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Ya on Raw they were showing pics of him when he was like 13 and his arms were massive then, hes been training a long time.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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There are a lot of deaths. Look at the guys who have died in the last 2 years. Eddie Guerrero, Bam Bam Bigelow just to name the first two. Also, Sherri Martel died and while she wasn't on steroids (most likely drugs since they said it wasn't natural causes or suicide).

Steroids aren't nearly as big as drugs. Look at Konnan for christ sake. The dudes Kidneys were TRASHED from all the shit he had thrown into his body over the years. It's really the most depressing thing about this whole situation. A friend of mine said (and I agreed) that over the next 4-5 years, you're gonna see a lot of 80s and 90s star wrestlers dying due to all the drugs and steroids they had put into their bodies over the years.

Not only that, but the industry itself is a demanding mistress. If you work for "The E" (WWE), then you're on the road year round usually getting maybe a month TOPS off (and that's if you're not a top or middle level guy). That causes more depression than the steroids. It's why most wrestlers are married or involved with people in the industry because it allows them to spend more time with them.

I really wish WWE could do something about their schedule to give guys more time off and time with their families.

Depression and Pro Wrestling go hand in hand.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Couple clips from various news sources

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NBC affiliate WXIA-TV out of Atlanta, Georgia is reporting that the deaths of the Benoit family are being investigated as a double murder-suicide. A source from the Atlanta media is saying that Benoit is being looked at as the probable perpetrator, and that his wife Nancy and his son may have been dead before today. Autopsies on Tuesday morning will help pinpoint the causes and times of death.
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Furthermore, WAGA Fox 5 out of Atlanta is reporting that police first heard from a concerned neighbor and that the three bodies were found in separate rooms. Benoit was found in the weight room, Nancy in her office, and the son Daniel in his bedroom. The family's bodies have been taken to the GBI crime lab, with autopsy results expected sometime during the day on Tuesday. Indications, according to the report, were that Benoit was the perpetrator of their deaths.

Police have sealed Benoit's home, and have withheld some of the details of what they found inside the house, but it is known that a gun was not used in connection with the deaths.
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Authorities say pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and seven-year-old son were found slain toda at their Fayetteville home.

Detective Bo Turner told Atlanta television station and FOX affiliate WAGA that the case is being investigated as a murder-suicide, but said that cannot be determined until the evidence is examined by a crime lab.

The station says investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and the boy, Daniel, sometime over the weekend, and then himself sometime today.

A concerned neighbor called police. The bodies were found in three different rooms. The lead investigator, Fayette County sheriff's Lieutenant Tommy Pope, said only that the deaths were being investigated as homicide. He said the cause of death awaits autopsy results tomorrow.

The 40-year-old Benoit, a native of Canada, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several
tag-team titles over his career.

Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the
last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."

Benoit maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The federal-style house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and double-iron gate.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:24 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I wonder if the network and the WWE are going to feel bad about doing a tribute to him if it turns out he really is a child murderer. Seems like they kinda rushed to grab some ratings before they had the full story.
No it wasnt rushed.. They were supposed to have a live 3hr show dedicated to the Vince Mcmahon Death conspiracy angle. Obviously since one of their Top performers passed away the same day, they did what I think was right, break the news to their talent and let them go home and mourn, scrap the whole Vince Mcmahon death angle and have Vince be the first person you saw then the show came on to say what had happend.


I have yet to watch the entire show, however from the snippets i was able to watch while at work, and from the word on the web is that it was a Very respectful show, and done in a very classy way.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I guess my point was that how can you be respectful and classy in regards to someone who murders his own wife and son? Is that something we should celebrate?
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:30 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:39 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I wonder if the network and the WWE are going to feel bad about doing a tribute to him if it turns out he really is a child murderer. Seems like they kinda rushed to grab some ratings before they had the full story.
What do you expect, them to act like it didnt happen at all?
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:40 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I guess my point was that how can you be respectful and classy in regards to someone who murders his own wife and son? Is that something we should celebrate?
Odds are he was probably sick in the head. I mean, suicide is usually a good indicator of a severe amount of depression and mental stress. Plus remember, all this stuff is coming from one station and kinda contradicts the original statements of a police LT.

It was a really classy tribute. It's a terrible situation, but the man was obviously depressed. Eddie Guerrero was a felon, a steroid user, and a drug abuser, but people still don't hold it against him. They remember his contributions to the industry. They'll do the same with Benoit.

Plus remember, absolutely nothing is official.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:44 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I guess my point was that how can you be respectful and classy in regards to someone who murders his own wife and son? Is that something we should celebrate?
There is absolutly no proof of exactly what happend.. What wwe.com is reporting is PURE speculation, since I am here sitting right next to the AP news wire, and there has only been speculation, and Assumptions by investigators but nothing concrete.


I never had the privilage to meet Benoit in person, but a reporter were I work at has, and from his appreciation of the few conversations he had Benoit didnt appear to be the kind of person who would do something like that. He put his family up in the highest pedestal whenever he spoke of them.
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Plus remember, absolutely nothing is official.
Yeah, I know. I am not condemning him yet, which is why I said maybe they simply rushed into it if ti does come back that it's true. I guess I just don't believe that someone's contribution to wrestling is enough to make it okay that he was a drug abuser or a family killer. Anyway, like I said I am not accusing him of it and really hope it isn't the case.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:49 PM   #42 (permalink)
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WWE acted properly.

Even if they had known that there is a possibility of Benoit having snapped and done that, it's best to immediately operate under the assumption of ignorance of that possibility, come out with a classy show to highlight the career of a wrestling hall of famer, and then ignore the situation if the worst scenario was the truth.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
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According to Pope, there were no signs of gunshot wounds or stabbing. Authorities are not ruling out other causes, such as poisoning, suffocation, or strangulation.

Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on scene," but would not specify what those instruments are or where in the house the bodies were found. Pope added the department is "not actively searching for any suspects outside of the house."
Sad day. I wonder if the reports of his family being sick have anything to do with this.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I think they almost have to treat it as a murder/suicide case until evidence points to the contrary. More than likely it was the fallback position without extremely obvious signs of a 4th party being involved or some freak accident. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm still kinda numb about this, have always been a fan of Benoit from the first time I saw WCW and he wrestled Malenko on their debut match there.

When I first heard it my first thought was that I hope it wasn't a murder-suicide because of all the good things people have always said about him and the way he has acted as a person but the more I read these reports the more I'm not sure it is what we all seem to be assumin git is.

Let's say that it is a murder-suicide and that Nancy and Daniel were killed a day before Benoit died.....is it not possible that the family emergency he had to rush home to was that Nancy had killed their son and then herself....he has come home and due to how much they meant to him decided to end it as well?

I know it's not very likely but I dont think it is much more improbable than a man that loves his family as much as everyone that knows him has claimed decides to kill them, call up and cancel a ppv appearence, wait a day or so and then kill himself.

At least I hope neither one of those are really the case and it ends up being something fucked up like a home-invasion that had him call up and cancel his appearence then used wife and kid as leverage to get him to do something (such as transfer money to an account, etc) and when acheived just removed all the witnesses.

It would still be a fucked up thing to have happened but at least then the legacy he has cultivated will truely live on and not be tarnished with the last memories of him being a fucked up kid killer.
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