Sammy Sosa, Hall of Fame?

[kcxiv]

Year Team G AB R H HR RBI BB SO SB AVG SLG
1989 Rangers 25 84 8 20 1 3 0 20 0 .238 .310
1989 White Sox 33 99 19 27 3 10 11 27 7 .273 .441
1990 White Sox 153 532 72 124 15 70 33 150 32 .233 .404
1991 White Sox 116 316 39 64 10 33 14 98 13 .203 .335
1992 Cubs 67 262 41 68 8 25 19 63 15 .260 .393
1993 Cubs 159 598 92 156 33 93 38 135 38 .261 .485
1994 Cubs 105 426 59 128 25 70 25 92 22 .300 .545
1995 Cubs 144 564 89 151 36 119 58 134 34 .268 .500
1996 Cubs 124 498 84 136 40 100 34 134 18 .273 .564
1997 Cubs 162 642 90 161 36 119 45 174 22 .251 .480
1998 Cubs 159 643 134 198 66 158 73 171 18 .308 .647
1999 Cubs 162 625 114 180 63 141 78 171 7 .288 .635
2000 Cubs 156 604 106 193 50 138 91 168 7 .320 .634
2001 Cubs 160 577 146 189 64 160 116 153 0 .328 .737
2002 Cubs 150 556 122 160 49 108 103 144 2 .288 .594
2003 Cubs 137 517 99 144 40 103 62 143 0 .279 .553
2004 Cubs 126 478 69 121 35 80 56 133 0 .253 .517
2005 Orioles 102 380 39 84 14 45 39 84 1 .221 .376



Thats what he did in his career. WHile he wasnt a great fielder. in his prime, he was just sick. 3 times he hit 60plus home runs. He had some pretty big rbi numbers as well.

[Ham n Cheese]

lol love the jump from averaging about 30 a year to the next 4 years averaging 60 a year

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

lol love the jump from averaging about 30 a year to the next 4 years averaging 60 a year

Yeah, just a tad obvious eh? I realize there are no failed tests blah blah but give me a fucking break, you telling me in one offseason he figured out how to hit 30 more homeruns a year? Oh that and the fact that in 1997 he weighed 207 pounds and in 1998 he weighed 265? Failed test or not that shit is not legit, then after the congress hearings he is back to his "skinny" self and couldnt catch up to a fast ball to save his life.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by sticktastic

Yeah, just a tad obvious eh? I realize there are no failed tests blah blah but give me a fucking break, you telling me in one offseason he figured out how to hit 30 more homeruns a year? Oh that and the fact that in 1997 he weighed 207 pounds and in 1998 he weighed 265? Failed test or not that shit is not legit, then after the congress hearings he is back to his "skinny" self and couldnt catch up to a fast ball to save his life.

They were taking creatine at the time. Creatine was not illegal at the time. Drink that shit, it will get ya pumped up fast. Thats why they eventually outlawed it. It was a fairly new thing at the time.

[Ham n Cheese]

andro(sp?) wasn't illegal at the time either

[Handaar]

Man, Big-Mac and Sosa gave us one of the most amazing and exciting seasons of baseball. They both get my yes vote.

At least they aren't dicks like Bonds.

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by Handaar

Man, Big-Mac and Sosa gave us one of the most amazing and exciting seasons of baseball. They both get my yes vote.

At least they aren't dicks like Bonds.

While they may not be a compelte tool socially, I hope that is not factored into a hall of fame vote. Because HOF is supposed to be a reward for your on the field actions not how easy you were to talk to or how many interviews you may have given. My only dilemma with bonds as far as the HOF goes is that he was going to be in the HOF -BEFORE- the steroid shit. His numbers were good enough before then, as opposed to sammy and mark's not being anywhere close.

[Thorpe]

Originally Posted by sticktastic

While they may not be a compelte tool socially, I hope that is not factored into a hall of fame vote. Because HOF is supposed to be a reward for your on the field actions not how easy you were to talk to or how many interviews you may have given.

Don't worry, Ty Cobb is in and he was the biggest asshole in the history of baseball.

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by Thorpe

Don't worry, Ty Cobb is in and he was the biggest asshole in the history of baseball.

QFT

Dont know how many of you here have ever read up on Ty Cobb, but if you have not id reccomend it, some amazing stories out there

[Twobit Whore]

Big Mac was kind of a dick. I remember seeing him at an exhibition game when he was still with the A's. This was in New Orleans, where MLB has no presence whatsoever, There were tons of kids down by the dugout where he was just tossing a ball around to loosen up and he wouldn't even acknowledge them. No autographs, no photos, not even a nod or smile. Just ignored dozens of people who had never been that close to a MLB player in their entire lives. It left a real sour taste in my mouth.

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Big Mac was kind of a dick. I remember seeing him at an exhibition game when he was still with the A's. This was in New Orleans, where MLB has no presence whatsoever, There were tons of kids down by the dugout where he was just tossing a ball around to loosen up and he wouldn't even acknowledge them. No autographs, no photos, not even a nod or smile. Just ignored dozens of people who had never been that close to a MLB player in their entire lives. It left a real sour taste in my mouth.

Yeah...I have heard similar stories about other players similar to that. I mean I know they are just people and like you and me sometimes just dont feel like talking, but sometimes it seems they are jus being down right rude. Griffy Jr, was notorius for this earlier in his career.

[kcxiv]

BIg Mac was a dick, back in 1988 or 89, its been a while. i went to an A's game. After the game, people go to the teams parkinglot. Alot of players sign autographs' for people. Jose Canseco was as cool as they come back then. Him and his fine ass wife were passing out pictured signed post cards of Canseco. Anyways, Big Mac comes by in his corvette or some kind of red sports car. I was very young at the time, about 13 or so, well he goes, ok i am going to pull over at the curb and sign autographs for people. Well, he didnt, he just laughed and drove off. haha. I was like, what a dick. lol I understand that they get tired of people hassling him, but hell most of the other players were out there being cool with the fans.

[brekk]

Isn't ironic that their home run race in '98 which saved baseball was likely the result of both being pumped on steroids, which is now killing baseball.

[Grimmlokk]

Record setting attendance numbers say otherwise.

[AngryGerbil]

My only comment here is one of surprise.

Mac vs Sosa interrupted normal programming on the coasts? Wow.

I never knew that.

I mean, it interrupted shit (aka: took over) here in STL and CHI for sure, but I never knew it was such a big deal otherwise.

You grow up in a midwestern red state and you are trained to think that anything that happens here means nothing, at all, ever. Then all the sudden you see a bunch of 'coasters' talking about a menial local event as "the thing that saved baseball" and you begin to wonder.

But, never mind. Flyover states are just that. I actually just tipped three cows.