[NHL] Offseason Talk - Page 5

Moontayle · 07-01-2007, 03:24 PM

And I bet they barely make the playoffs this year. They had the worst record in the league last year and that was with Forsberg up until they traded him. Briere is an impact player, but he's not THAT much of an impact player. What else have they done which might put them in a position that's worth talking about?

farlin · 07-01-2007, 05:16 PM

Philly also has a better goalie now too. But I don't think Briere will match what he did in Buffalo in philly.

Actually, I hope hes a bust.

<-- bitter sabres fan

Ishad · 07-01-2007, 06:29 PM

Hannan to the Avs 4 years 18 million

Drury and Gomez to the Rangers. 5 year/32.25 and 7 year/51 million respectively

Buffalo fans must be super pissed right now.

Moontayle · 07-01-2007, 06:42 PM

Damn. Both gone. Well, hopefully the Sabres have a gameplan.

Drury AND Gomez. Man, Rangers are going to be a powerhouse next year.

miguex · 07-02-2007, 01:35 AM

and the Kings do nothing again....why do I keep hope alive.
Why Papi Why!?!?!?

Ishad · 07-02-2007, 07:53 AM

Karyia to the Blues, three years/18 million.

Ryan Smyth to the Avs, 5 years/31.25 million.

So the Avs will be a playoff team again but with Theodore in goal they won't go far.

Karyia signing with the blues suprised me. I thought there was no way in hell he'd sign with a non cup contender.

Moontayle · 07-02-2007, 02:52 PM

Sabres had a news conference with the GM and the Managing partner where the basic question was, "Why did you let them go?"

With Briere, they kind of skated the issue but I get the sense that he was being a money player and wanted the big deal. Sabres were unwilling to play that game.

With Drury, they outright said they were willing to match every offer that came in, but never got the chance. Drury got the offer from the Rangers and took it. He lives nearby there in Connecticut so it was a chance to be with a winning team while also being really close to home.

Oh well.

Ishad · 07-02-2007, 05:39 PM

Ducks sign Bertuzzi to a 2 year deal

Blackhawks sign Lang to a 2 year deal

EmpireF4i · 07-02-2007, 05:57 PM

At this point, I am almost certain that Neidermayer and Selanne are going to retire with the two signings they made. The Bertuzzi signing was weird though. I guess Burke likes him still and he plays that rough forward Ducks hockey they need.

Eomer · 07-03-2007, 12:14 PM

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I think of all those names the one not on there will come the closest to 8 mill. Ryan Smyth.

I'm cheating cause it's after July 1, but the deals were all about what I expected. Smyth could have gotten a bit more money or a couple more years if he'd signed out East, but decided Colorado was a good fit. And it is really, still fairly close to family, similar climate and town, and so on. Too bad he didn't want to come back to the Oilers, in the end :/.

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He would have to do the same thing Teemu did and play for about $2m at the most for a year contract.

Why would he take such a massive paycut? Teemu did it cause his health was quite questionable, Kariya's isn't (he's also younger), as can be seen by the 6 million 3 year contract he got.

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And I bet they barely make the playoffs this year. They had the worst record in the league last year and that was with Forsberg up until they traded him. Briere is an impact player, but he's not THAT much of an impact player. What else have they done which might put them in a position that's worth talking about?

Picking up Jason Smith is a pretty big deal, as is Lupul (watch, he'll go out and get 30-40 goals now that the pressure is off), Hartnell and Timmonen. Philly gave very little up outside of Sanderson and Pitkannen, and they've added a lot of pieces to their lineup. They still badly need a true #1 goaltender, but there's no question that they've improved the most of any team in the league to this point. Whether that makes them a playoff team or not is hard to say, but their chances are certainly looking better.

Overall, I'm extremely disapointed with Kevin Lowe. We come out of this with a mediocre trade (I think we should have kept Lupul, that will bite him in the ass down the road when he's a consistent 40 goal guy), a couple of minor signings, and that's pretty much it. We got a puck moving defenseman, but gave up arguably our best stay at home guy, and team captain to boot. We still need a first line center (how the fuck did Nylander get away, Kevin?), and a #1 defenseman.

At least we have lots of cap room!

Cascow · 07-03-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Overall, I'm extremely disapointed with Kevin Lowe. We come out of this with a mediocre trade (I think we should have kept Lupul, that will bite him in the ass down the road when he's a consistent 40 goal guy), a couple of minor signings, and that's pretty much it. We got a puck moving defenseman, but gave up arguably our best stay at home guy, and team captain to boot. We still need a first line center (how the fuck did Nylander get away, Kevin?), and a #1 defenseman.

At least we have lots of cap room!

Normally I would turn around and laugh my ass off about the Oilers being in that position...but I can't force myself into it. I have no idea how Lowe thinks his actions are acceptable.

I guess all that you can hope is that Keenan comes in and crushes the Flames. At least that way the whole province can go back to having shitty teams.

Ishad · 07-03-2007, 02:17 PM

Zubrus signs with New Jersey. 6 year 20.4 mill

When reached for comment a spokesperson for the sabres said the re-signing free agents was "for pussies"

Moontayle · 07-03-2007, 04:09 PM

Well, Zubrus wasn't really a huge impact player for them and while he did bring some needed physicality to the team, I really don't put him into the $3m+ range that he's getting with NJ.

Eomer · 07-03-2007, 04:21 PM

Heh, these days 3 million a year is a 3rd line player or a #4 defenseman. This salary cap thing has worked out not too bad for the union, in the end. Salaries are back up to where they were prior to the lockout, although methinks the end of the 07/08 season will see a large escrow payment from the PA to the NHL, at which point the 90% of union members and general public who have no idea what the escrow system is will go "oh snap!"

It certainly helps that the half dozen Canadian franchises, financially fairly healthy even 5 years ago, have essentially seen their revenues jump by upwards of 50% because of the exchange rate. I'd be curious to know exactly how much revenue that's worth to the NHL as a whole.

Moontayle · 07-03-2007, 04:40 PM

Yeah, it's kind of crazy but the whole hullabaloo which resulted in the lockout in the first place is making the Player's Union look like jackasses since they're now making more on average than they were before it happened.

07-01-2007, 03:24 PM	#61 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,910	And I bet they barely make the playoffs this year. They had the worst record in the league last year and that was with Forsberg up until they traded him. Briere is an impact player, but he's not THAT much of an impact player. What else have they done which might put them in a position that's worth talking about? __________________

07-01-2007, 06:42 PM	#64 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,910	Damn. Both gone. Well, hopefully the Sabres have a gameplan. Drury AND Gomez. Man, Rangers are going to be a powerhouse next year. __________________ Last edited by Moontayle : 07-01-2007 at 06:48 PM.

07-02-2007, 02:52 PM	#67 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,910	Sabres had a news conference with the GM and the Managing partner where the basic question was, "Why did you let them go?" With Briere, they kind of skated the issue but I get the sense that he was being a money player and wanted the big deal. Sabres were unwilling to play that game. With Drury, they outright said they were willing to match every offer that came in, but never got the chance. Drury got the offer from the Rangers and took it. He lives nearby there in Connecticut so it was a chance to be with a winning team while also being really close to home. Oh well. __________________

07-02-2007, 05:39 PM	#68 (permalink)
Ishad Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 383 +4 Internets	Ducks sign Bertuzzi to a 2 year deal Blackhawks sign Lang to a 2 year deal Last edited by Ishad : 07-02-2007 at 05:42 PM.

07-03-2007, 04:09 PM	#73 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,910	Well, Zubrus wasn't really a huge impact player for them and while he did bring some needed physicality to the team, I really don't put him into the $3m+ range that he's getting with NJ. __________________

07-01-2007, 05:16 PM	#62 (permalink)
farlin Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 138 -1 Internets	Philly also has a better goalie now too. But I don't think Briere will match what he did in Buffalo in philly. Actually, I hope hes a bust. <-- bitter sabres fan

07-01-2007, 06:29 PM	#63 (permalink)
Ishad Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 383 +4 Internets	Hannan to the Avs 4 years 18 million Drury and Gomez to the Rangers. 5 year/32.25 and 7 year/51 million respectively Buffalo fans must be super pissed right now.

07-02-2007, 01:35 AM	#65 (permalink)
miguex living the dream Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 207 +0 Internets	and the Kings do nothing again....why do I keep hope alive. Why Papi Why!?!?!?

07-02-2007, 07:53 AM	#66 (permalink)
Ishad Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 383 +4 Internets	Karyia to the Blues, three years/18 million. Ryan Smyth to the Avs, 5 years/31.25 million. So the Avs will be a playoff team again but with Theodore in goal they won't go far. Karyia signing with the blues suprised me. I thought there was no way in hell he'd sign with a non cup contender.

07-02-2007, 05:57 PM	#69 (permalink)
EmpireF4i Right as the mail Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,635 -23 Internets	At this point, I am almost certain that Neidermayer and Selanne are going to retire with the two signings they made. The Bertuzzi signing was weird though. I guess Burke likes him still and he plays that rough forward Ducks hockey they need.

07-03-2007, 02:17 PM	#72 (permalink)
Ishad Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 383 +4 Internets	Zubrus signs with New Jersey. 6 year 20.4 mill When reached for comment a spokesperson for the sabres said the re-signing free agents was "for pussies"

07-03-2007, 04:21 PM	#74 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,147 +37 Internets	Heh, these days 3 million a year is a 3rd line player or a #4 defenseman. This salary cap thing has worked out not too bad for the union, in the end. Salaries are back up to where they were prior to the lockout, although methinks the end of the 07/08 season will see a large escrow payment from the PA to the NHL, at which point the 90% of union members and general public who have no idea what the escrow system is will go "oh snap!" It certainly helps that the half dozen Canadian franchises, financially fairly healthy even 5 years ago, have essentially seen their revenues jump by upwards of 50% because of the exchange rate. I'd be curious to know exactly how much revenue that's worth to the NHL as a whole.

07-03-2007, 04:40 PM	#75 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,910	Yeah, it's kind of crazy but the whole hullabaloo which resulted in the lockout in the first place is making the Player's Union look like jackasses since they're now making more on average than they were before it happened. __________________

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