Steve Kerr as new Suns GM and President

[Zeste]

Just herd Kerr announce (while doing color for the det-cle game) that he's leaving TNT to go and be the GM and President of Basketball Operations for the Suns. I guess he was a part owner and consultant before now.

I wonder what he'll do to try and get a championship run in 07-08. The Suns have got to believe they have the resources to make a few changes and possibly lead in the west.

could be interesting for Suns fans. Kerr definitely knows what it is like to be on a championship team or 2.

[Twobit Whore]

Do they really need to make changes? They had one of the best records in basketball with what was it? 2 15+ game win streaks. They got rooked by the officials and the league office with the suspensions, that's the only reason they aren't still playing.

[Zeste]

They don't need huge changes, but they need something to finish the deal. Just an extra 1% squeezed out of somewhere, on the defensive end, and they'd be the strongest team in the league, I think.

[Mkopec1]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Do they really need to make changes? They had one of the best records in basketball with what was it? 2 15+ game win streaks. They got rooked by the officials and the league office with the suspensions, that's the only reason they aren't still playing.

LOL

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Do they really need to make changes? They had one of the best records in basketball with what was it? 2 15+ game win streaks. They got rooked by the officials and the league office with the suspensions, that's the only reason they aren't still playing.

[Twobit Whore]

Suns haters I guess? But I see your point, the compelling argument in your rebuttal is quite convincing but still I must respectfully disagree.

[Blumpster]

Well what kind of 'rebuttal' do you expect when all you're doing is whining like a baby? I love the Suns but they lost. There was no cheese involved. There's not a doubt in my mind that they'd have won game 5 if they had Amare, but it still stands that they lost game 1, and game 6 when they did have him. They didn't get it done, period.

Needs more James dunking over Duncan.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Blumpster

Well what kind of 'rebuttal' do you expect when all you're doing is whining like a baby? I love the Suns but they lost. There was no cheese involved. There's not a doubt in my mind that they'd have won game 5 if they had Amare, but it still stands that they lost game 1, and game 6 when they did have him. They didn't get it done, period.

Needs more James dunking over Duncan.

Whining like a baby? No. I'm not even a huge Suns fan but I think they were the better team and in a series without what occured I feel they would have won. Losing that critical game clearly had an effect beyond just that game, it changed the course of the series. It's all a bunch of what if's, but hey.. that doesn't matter. I don't think the Suns need any serious changes to be a championship contender. They have a good team.

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Suns haters I guess? But I see your point, the compelling argument in your rebuttal is quite convincing but still I must respectfully disagree.

See the NBA Playoff thread dumas. They still lost 3 out of the 5 games at FULL strength. Christ, want some cheese with that whine?

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Dis

See the NBA Playoff thread dumas. They still lost 3 out of the 5 games at FULL strength. Christ, want some cheese with that whine?

LOL, is that the only retort that you guys have? Just because someone thinks they got a raw deal they are whining? Read my previous post guy, I don't really give a crap about the Suns personally (in fact this is the first time I think I have posted about them ever) but I feel they were a better team. Yes they lost 3 of 5 at full strength, but would those have been necessary had they won game 5? Would the outcome of game 6 have been the same coming off of a win instead of a loss? Like I said, and you didn't read apparently, it's just 'what if's', but in my opinion (I am allowed to have those right?) the series would have likely ended up differently without the incidents in question.

So my response, based on my personal view, to the original post was that Steve Kerr may do afine job but I don't see any need to rebuild the team or make radical changes. Is that so hard to understand?

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

LOL, is that the only retort that you guys have? Just because someone thinks they got a raw deal they are whining? Read my previous post guy, I don't really give a crap about the Suns personally (in fact this is the first time I think I have posted about them ever) but I feel they were a better team. Yes they lost 3 of 5 at full strength, but would those have been necessary had they won game 5? Would the outcome of game 6 have been the same coming off of a win instead of a loss? Like I said, and you didn't read apparently, it's just 'what if's', but in my opinion (I am allowed to have those right?) the series would have likely ended up differently without the incidents in question.

So my response, based on my personal view, to the original post was that Steve Kerr may do afine job but I don't see any need to rebuild the team or make radical changes. Is that so hard to understand?

I guess what is so hard to understand is why someone so clueless as to the issues that the Suns face is even posting in this thread.

Like for instance, what to do with Shawn Marion. Guess you didnt realize his contract is up in a year, and suprise! He is going to be asking for a max contract which the Suns cannot/will not afford.

Or the fact that Amare cant play defense, and he could be used as tradebait for say a Kevin Garnett.

The lack of depth in the Suns bench.

Right now, the Suns will not win the championship with this current team. Are they good? Yes, but they are not built to win a championship. They need people who can rebound, and play defense. They also lack mental toughness (see Amare crying about Duncan).

Yeah the Suns are good, but they definitely need some tweaking in order to take it to the next level. Funny thing, Cuban engineered the Mavs to beat the Spurs. How many teams are engineered to beat the Suns? Thats what Kerr needs to do in Pheonix is build a team other NBA teams fear.

[Twobit Whore]

Those issues are natural and a new GM isn't required to address them. I guess I took the tone of the OP to be more of a 'something else is needed right now' one when I don't think anything radical (as in outside the normal course of operations) is required for the Suns to continue their success. The draft could help them with depth as could some offseason moves. Is a new GM required to do that? I wouldn't think so. Might he do something differently than the previous staff did? Possibly, but no one can say how each possible future would play out and compare them. I'm sure there are plenty of talented guys that would love to play with Nash, with or without Kerr in the front office. Don't get me wrong, the guy knows basketball and I don't see the Suns getting worse.. I just don't see it as a saving grace (that I don't think is needed at this point) either.

[Akileese]

Look, a coach and GM should NEVER have the same job. It's too much work. You think for a second that Kerr will do ANYTHING without D'Antoni's consent? Of course not. It's merely a formality to take a little bit of the load off of Mike D'Antoni. Being a GM is a full time job and a coach may actually be more work. Imagine doing both at once?

As for Marion. He makes pretty decent money as it is and I'm fairly sure he'll be dealt in a mega deal. The Suns NEED a big trade. They need one more big move to take them to the next level I agree with Bill Simmons that trading Amare for Garnett and probably throwing in Marion and some other players on both sides would make sense. While I love Amare, his defense keeps getting worse and worse and it's unlikely he'll improve. Garnett is just as productive and honestly, I think it's worth selling a few years off your future to get a guy who can almost hand you the 07/08 NBA Championship.

I'm sure plenty of people will throw a fit and say that I am insane and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But before you dismiss that idea, just remember how much Tim Duncan KILLED you guys in that series. Sure you got screwed with suspensions, but you probably wouldn't of won anyways. The pace would of caught up with you guys and Duncan would of killed you even more with monster games in 6 and 7. So please, just think hard about before saying I'm a retard and that trading a guy who's 25 for a guy who's 31. But if you look at their comparative numbers, Garnett is better across the board except for FG percentage (not fair since KG is a number one option with no point guard so he is always double and triple team as opposed to Amare who has the best PG of the past two decades and he plays with 3-4 options at any time).

I think it would be a smart trade if you could somehow convince then to part with KG. I feel Minnesota owes it to him to trade him to a real contender, but I doubt they will. But if you offered them Marion, Amare, and other stuff to balance out the cap issues, I think Minnesota would be stupid not to jump at that deal.

[Jadaki]

Originally Posted by Akileese

But before you dismiss that idea, just remember how much Tim Duncan KILLED you guys in that series.

Your forgetting that was the Suns defense by design in the series, let Duncan get his and shut down everyone else. Amare only guarded Duncan maybe 20% of the time. Kurt Thomas did the majority of work defending Duncan.

Don't count game 1 as the Suns being at full strength, when the two time MVP and team leader of the Suns can't be on the floor in the closing minutes that is not full strength.

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Jadaki

Your forgetting that was the Suns defense by design in the series, let Duncan get his and shut down everyone else. Amare only guarded Duncan maybe 20% of the time. Kurt Thomas did the majority of work defending Duncan.

Don't count game 1 as the Suns being at full strength, when the two time MVP and team leader of the Suns can't be on the floor in the closing minutes that is not full strength.

lol they didnt shut down anyone else. That was the problem! See Bowen nailing timely three's, Parker scoring in the lane at will, Oberto scoring inside the paint or Ginobilli just grinding point after point. Hell, even SAs garbage time players were executing the offense well in Game 6. Amare cant guard anyone right now, he is a defensive liability, offensively gifted, but there is ZERO excuse for a man with his size and athelitic ability to let someone go off on him.

And your second paragraph gets a big . Pheonix has a lack of depth, every team has to deal with foul trouble, injuries, ejections, etc. If they had a bench worth a damn having players in and out wouldnt hurt as much, nor would they be wearing their starters out with a 6 man rotation.