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Old 05-10-2007, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boxing vs MMA

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Cintron: "I Accept Dana White's Challenge"

BLOOMFIELD, NJ – Floyd Mayweather, Jr doesn’t want to battle a UFC champion. No problem. IBF World Welterweight Champion and former high school/college wrestling star Kermit Cintron would like to accept the challenge from UFC President Dana White, it was announced today by Main Events CEO Kathy Duva. Cintron, who will be defending his IBF crown against mandatory challenger Walter Matthysse on July 14 in Atlantic City, NJ, would like to battle the UFC champion following his June IBF title defense.

“I want the fight,” said Cintron. “I can wrestle. I can box. I can beat those UFC fighters at their own game. Tell Mr. White to make me an offer and I’ll take on his guy after I fight Matthysse on July 14.”

Cintron (27-1, 25 KO’s) captured the vacant IBF crown on October 28, 2006, when he destroyed Mark Suarez in six rounds (TKO 6). The 27-year-old Reading, PA resident by way of Carolinas, Puerto Rico once finished 10th at the NJCAA Wrestling Championships. As a senior in high school he was offered full wrestling scholarships to Wisconsin University and Ohio State University.

The Cintron-Matthysse bout will serve as the co-feature to the Arturo Gatti-Alfonso Gomez contest. Main Events is promoting the July 14 evening of boxing, in association with The Tournament of Contenders, LLC and Caesars Atlantic City.
Boxing News :: World News : Cintron: "I Accept Dana White's Challenge"

Would be interesting if it actually happens.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Man, he would get so worked. Getting hit with a 4oz glove is alot different than getting hit with a 16oz. This guy has no idea what hes getting into unless he has actually done some training.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not that this needed it's own thread, but if you haven't wrestled in 10 years, you're skills are not going to be up to par. If Sherk or Penn are put up against him, he's going to be made a fool of.

And it's not a good idea to be cross-training for this fight when you have to defend your belt in Boxing a month before. The problem with cross-training is that you cannot master one skill without letting another fall behind.

Good luck to him. Maybe he'll understand what the future of combat sports is and hopefully the dick waving about which sport is better will stop.

By the way, I bet if a Boxer does fight one of the top MMA fighters, they will be humble to it afterwards, "Much respect for these guys, they're true athletes. They're good at what they do." This shit is all publicity for their dying sport.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Theoretical question, but what happens if a boxer manages to win?
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's pretty unlikely since it is a very different setting, thus using a very different skillset. At the same time, reverse the roles and put boxing gloves on a MMA fighter and put them against a world class boxer and they'll get tooled. If enough of these events happen of course one of them will win, but the odds are fairly long I'd assume.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Second part to that question: Does that mean Boxing is better than MMA?

No.

There are differences in Traditional Boxing and MMA Boxing. Your stance is more square in MMA, which makes you an easier target. The advantage to that is for better kicks and takedown defense.

That is something you have to work on, and it will change the way you fight. Especially when it comes to your headwork and overall defense. You cannot do the lazy slips and bobbing in MMA, because you will get caught with a knee, kick, elbow, uppercut or takedown.

I'm telling you, you cannot just come into MMA from using one discipline. It's a whole new world. You might get by with a quick knockout, but you will not dominate the sport, not by a longshot.

To answer the first question though... Boxing organizations will use it as fuel to keep Boxing alive. It will be talked about during every televised fights and the Boxing enthusiasts will say I told you we're the best.

I predict the exact opposite if the MMA fighter wins.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Meh I'm not trying to say either is better than the other. Both are great in their own right. I'm not a fan of MMA, but I don't discredit it. The fights are brutal, and the fighters are very skilled at what they do.

As for boxing dying, the De La Hoya vs Mayweather fight had an all-time high for PPV sales. 2.15 million sales? That's pretty damn impressive for a so-called dying sport.

I will concede though that the sport is hurting for more hugely popular fighters (especially in the heavyweights, which European fighters are currently dominating).

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Old 05-11-2007, 01:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Boxer would get his ass beat in MMA. THe MMA's would bet their ass beat in boxing. Its a fucking different sport.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I wish Fedor was part of the ufc

I would bet my entire small towns life savings on that fight. I do wonder though who they will put him up against.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I doubt they will put him up against the cream of the crop. Wouldn't be a fair introduction really. It would be like a newb to MMA going for the title in his first fight.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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While i agree with you, this guy seems to think that he is on par with the cream of the crop. He does have an excellent boxing record.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Don't a lot of MMA fighters have good backgrounds in other contact sports though? This guy may be cocky and that could be reason enough to let him get his ass worked, but I was under the impression that a lot of MMA fighters have extensive backgrounds in martial arts, wrestling, boxing etc. It doesn't entitlte them to a championship bout the first time on the mat though.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah they usually have done some other forms of competetive martial arts previously. However when you actually watch a ufc ppv or hell free tv event you'll see alot of the fighters have a 10 - 15 match professional record when they go for a title shot first. *again thats my observed average not pure 1--% stats by any means, i just watch alot of ufc*

This guy (Cintron) has 28 professional bouts so he is deffinately a seasoned boxer. Personally im now thinking its not that fair to put some guy who has fought in about half the professional fights this guy has.

Another thing we have to think of, is that its dana white and dana does not like to lose. I would immagine the fighter that Cintron will be facing will be of a fairly good ufc caliber
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, I wouldn't put him against a 0-0 guy, or the worst guy in the league. just an average guy. Maybe someone who is 4-3 or something.


Either way it will be interesting. I think the guy is rushing things. If he handled his business for his upcoming boxing match, then switched into hardcore UFC training he might fair decently well. Would be pretty embarassing for him to lose on the 14th because he is focused on wrestling heh.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Remember that boxer from UFC1 who fought Royce Gracie, and the boxer wore just 1 glove? Haha, it'll be something like that.
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