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Aetos · 10-04-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointyboot

im a kimbo fanboy so ill tell you.

ive seen bigger upsets for sure.

it really changes nothing. his success transcends even losing somehow.

yea it sucks, but we all knew it was gonna happen eventually.

I think that kimbo was exposed finally.

Pointyboot · 10-04-2008, 09:35 PM

anyone who knows dick about mma knows that kimbo would get his assed kicked by a conditioned fighter. we're fans for a whole different reason. and no im not explaining. if you dont get it then you never will.

Arakkis · 10-04-2008, 09:35 PM

Sorry guys, Kimbo was out and not intelligently defending himself. There was a barrage of undefended punches, which I think did the damage to his eye. It was a good stoppage, and the ref gave him plenty of time to recover.

Grimmlokk · 10-04-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CalhoonJugganaut

No reitterate how I feel about the what happened tonight, I think it was about the same as the Thompson stoppage...he could have recovered but it wasn't looking very good.

You did see the part where he spent 10-15 seconds trying to double-leg the ref, right?

It really does blow for him to lose like this though. No way a pro fighter should have to take a fight on an hours notice. But the show would bomb without him and I'm sure the brass were begging like crazy. You could tell the whole night that he was not happy about the situation. In the one earlier interview he'd barely answer the chick's questions. And after the fight he just said his piece and walked away from the interviewer. Just didn't seem real cooperative, and he always had been before. Can't blame him. That's amateur shit.

edit: Also, the first shot after he went down was a hammerfist to the back of the head. The ref could have conceivably stopped it there and given him time to recover. I don't think it is what did him in at all, but it could have happened and I'm kinda surprised it didn't. Just because it was Kimbo.

And speaking of ref perceived favoritism, did the ref in the Arlovski fight stand it up way too early the one time or was it just me? Nelson was going for seriously arm locks and throwing some pretty heavy knees. It's not like it was stalled and stagnant.

Kez · 10-04-2008, 09:49 PM

Yeah, definitely wasn't pleased to see Nelson & Arlovsky getting back to their feet then, Nelson was active on the ground looking for the Kimura and kneeing the body as well.

Spontaneous Cumbustion · 10-04-2008, 09:55 PM

Yeah I agree that stand-up was way premature.

On the other hand I do think Kimbo was out.

It's never perfect, but I don't think there are any ref collusion conspiracies happening.

orcmauler · 10-04-2008, 11:31 PM

Either way, it is safe to say that Kimbo made bank for this fight. I am sure the "delay" in accepting the short-notice fight was more about padding his pocket than anything else (not that there is anything wrong with that). The stoppage was, in my opinion, warranted as Kimbo was out on his feet.

Edit: And yes I was questioning the decision by the ref to stand up Arlovsky and Nelson, even though I was pulling for Arlovsky. It was suspiciously quick.

Mippo · 10-05-2008, 03:04 AM

Since I've sparred with Seth and lasted longer then 14 seconds I think the only logical conclusion is that Mippo > Kimbo Slice.

Don't mess with Orlando fighters!

Look out for Mikey Gomez as well who frankly, should've already gotten a chance at the UFC. I'd be shocked if he doesn't get in soon.

CalhoonJugganaut · 10-05-2008, 07:17 AM

[quote=Grimmlokk;1216440]You did see the part where he spent 10-15 seconds trying to double-leg the ref, right?

QUOTE]

Yeah I caught that part, and that may have just been out of frustration. But really the only blows that I saw that were landed was the short jab when they were on their feet and the last punch Seth threw on the ground before the ref stepped in. Watch it again and you will see those were the only 2 solid punches that hit and really don't think it should have been stopped that early. I figured the ref would have let the fight continue just a little bit longer, but this kind of thing seems to happen a lot in Elite XC.

CalhoonJugganaut · 10-05-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

You did see the part where he spent 10-15 seconds trying to double-leg the ref, right?

Yeah I caught that part, and that may have just been out of frustration. But really the only blows that I saw that were landed was the short jab when they were on their feet and the last punch Seth threw on the ground before the ref stepped in. Watch it again and you will see those were the only 2 solid punches that hit and really don't think it should have been stopped that early. I figured the ref would have let the fight continue just a little bit longer, but this kind of thing seems to happen a lot in Elite XC.

Spontaneous Cumbustion · 10-05-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CalhoonJugganaut

Yeah I caught that part, and that may have just been out of frustration.

Out of frustration? lol...oooook.

Cynno · 10-05-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CalhoonJugganaut

Yeah I caught that part, and that may have just been out of frustration. But really the only blows that I saw that were landed was the short jab when they were on their feet and the last punch Seth threw on the ground before the ref stepped in. Watch it again and you will see those were the only 2 solid punches that hit and really don't think it should have been stopped that early. I figured the ref would have let the fight continue just a little bit longer, but this kind of thing seems to happen a lot in Elite XC.

Wow, you're dumber than I thought, please stick to making Everquest rap videos and stop the MMA commentary.

ziggyholiday · 10-05-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

"THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT"

For cereally? Hyperbole is one thing but that was ridiculous. And BTW Petruszelli only weighed in at 205.5, so I guess he's a LHW now.

The announcer had me rolling when he kept repeating that line....shocking the MMA world? Not so much buddy!

Arlovsky/Nelson was good but can only agree that was a horrible call on the stand up. These things happen but when you see a call like that it really makes you question wtf is going on.

p0wl · 10-05-2008, 09:57 AM

Here's the video incase anyone missed it.

I'm sure Fedor will hit up the thread with a gif today.

Edit: Listen to the last 15-20 seconds of commentary when they mention Hulk Hogan lol. I completely missed it last night, everyone here was cheering when Kimbo lost.

CalhoonJugganaut · 10-05-2008, 11:57 AM

Is the post fight press conference posted yet?

edit: i found a couple

MMArated.com has some post-fight conference interviews posted on their site.

Seth Petruzelli:

Seth Petruzelli Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

Frank Shamrock:

Frank Shamrock Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

Jared Shaw:

Jared Shaw Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

Benji Radach:

Benji Radach Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

Jake Shields:

Jake Shields Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

Kelly Kobold:

Kelly Kobold Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com

They should have more posted soon (I hope so).

10-05-2008, 07:17 AM	#3384 (permalink)
CalhoonJugganaut Legends are made out of vulnerable men Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norrath Carolina Posts: 528 +1 Internets	[quote=Grimmlokk;1216440]You did see the part where he spent 10-15 seconds trying to double-leg the ref, right? QUOTE] Yeah I caught that part, and that may have just been out of frustration. But really the only blows that I saw that were landed was the short jab when they were on their feet and the last punch Seth threw on the ground before the ref stepped in. Watch it again and you will see those were the only 2 solid punches that hit and really don't think it should have been stopped that early. I figured the ref would have let the fight continue just a little bit longer, but this kind of thing seems to happen a lot in Elite XC. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/nicekrispy http://www.soundclick.com/nicekrispy Calhoon - Dwarf - Paladin - Onyxia

10-05-2008, 09:57 AM	#3389 (permalink)
p0wl Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: VA Posts: 354 -3 Internets	Here's the video incase anyone missed it. I'm sure Fedor will hit up the thread with a gif today. Edit: Listen to the last 15-20 seconds of commentary when they mention Hulk Hogan lol. I completely missed it last night, everyone here was cheering when Kimbo lost. __________________ Last edited by p0wl : 10-05-2008 at 10:03 AM.

10-05-2008, 11:57 AM	#3390 (permalink)
CalhoonJugganaut Legends are made out of vulnerable men Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norrath Carolina Posts: 528 +1 Internets	Is the post fight press conference posted yet? edit: i found a couple MMArated.com has some post-fight conference interviews posted on their site. Seth Petruzelli: Seth Petruzelli Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com Frank Shamrock: Frank Shamrock Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com Jared Shaw: Jared Shaw Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com Benji Radach: Benji Radach Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com Jake Shields: Jake Shields Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com Kelly Kobold: Kelly Kobold Post-Fight Interview - MMARated.com They should have more posted soon (I hope so). __________________ http://www.myspace.com/nicekrispy http://www.soundclick.com/nicekrispy Calhoon - Dwarf - Paladin - Onyxia Last edited by CalhoonJugganaut : 10-05-2008 at 12:01 PM.

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10-04-2008, 09:35 PM	#3377 (permalink)
Pointyboot Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 93 +2 Internets	anyone who knows dick about mma knows that kimbo would get his assed kicked by a conditioned fighter. we're fans for a whole different reason. and no im not explaining. if you dont get it then you never will.

10-04-2008, 09:49 PM	#3380 (permalink)
Kez MMO Slacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 326 +1 Internets	Yeah, definitely wasn't pleased to see Nelson & Arlovsky getting back to their feet then, Nelson was active on the ground looking for the Kimura and kneeing the body as well.

10-04-2008, 09:55 PM	#3381 (permalink)
Spontaneous Cumbustion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wilmington, DE, USA Posts: 358	Yeah I agree that stand-up was way premature. On the other hand I do think Kimbo was out. It's never perfect, but I don't think there are any ref collusion conspiracies happening.

10-04-2008, 11:31 PM	#3382 (permalink)
orcmauler <3 $$mas Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 517 -1 Internets	Either way, it is safe to say that Kimbo made bank for this fight. I am sure the "delay" in accepting the short-notice fight was more about padding his pocket than anything else (not that there is anything wrong with that). The stoppage was, in my opinion, warranted as Kimbo was out on his feet. Edit: And yes I was questioning the decision by the ref to stand up Arlovsky and Nelson, even though I was pulling for Arlovsky. It was suspiciously quick.

10-05-2008, 03:04 AM	#3383 (permalink)
Mippo Has a 2 inch dysfunctional penis Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 714 -46 Internets	Since I've sparred with Seth and lasted longer then 14 seconds I think the only logical conclusion is that Mippo > Kimbo Slice. Don't mess with Orlando fighters! Look out for Mikey Gomez as well who frankly, should've already gotten a chance at the UFC. I'd be shocked if he doesn't get in soon.