The MMA thread - Page 168

Asmadai · 06-18-2008, 08:19 AM

Fedor will man handle Sylvia.

It's been so long since Fedor fought, that yes, people may begin to doubt his ablities, but to be fair, it's been so long since Sylvia has fought, perhaps everyone forgot that he blows donkey dick at fighting?

Aside from the Fedor/Sylvia card, although the rest of the match-ups for Affliction may not be the best, i'm always glad at an opportunity to see Barnett/Babalu/Lindland/little Nog fight.

Aetos · 06-18-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by homsar

This UFC event is going to kill the affliction card with the way it's looking. I have no idea what the statistics are but I would say only about 15% of U.S. viewers follow anything thats not UFC related. Pretty much most bars wont bother with affliction since everyone just thinks MMA is UFC. Brand new organization that is paying the fighters very well with little advertisment competing against the biggest MMA business out there.... Doesnt look well

Side note: Really dont care about anything on the Affliction card with the exception of the Fedor/Sylvia fight. Everything else is horrible match making. My prediction is Sylvia wins if he can keep it from going to the ground but since this is in a ring sylvia will get raped most likely.

the ufc card is in no way shape or form able to compete with the affliction card. Buffalo wild wings has already announced they will be showing the affliction pay per view, and not the ufc card

homsar · 06-18-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Araxen

Only the Fedor haters see Fedor losing.

Or Fedor huggers refuse to believe he will ever lose...

The guy hasnt fought anyone worth mentioning in 3 years besides Hunt and would have prolly lost if the guy had any ground game or cardio.

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Originally Posted by Aetos

the ufc card is in no way shape or form able to compete with the affliction card. Buffalo wild wings has already announced they will be showing the affliction pay per view, and not the ufc card

We will see. I have no idea how affliction could even compete against the UFC's if its true the way it's rumored. Just look at what happened to bodog when they thought Fedor would bring them all there sales and they didnt even go against the UFC that night.

Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin
Brandon Vera vs. Reese Andy
Frank Edgar vs. Hermes Franca
Cain Velasquez vs. Jake O’Brien
Anthony Johnson vs. Kevin Burns

Possible participans

Wandy
Hendo
Franklin

Aetos · 06-18-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by homsar

Or Fedor huggers refuse to believe he will ever lose...

The guy hasnt fought anyone worth mentioning in 3 years besides Hunt and would have prolly lost if the guy had any ground game or cardio.

We will see. I have no idea how affliction could even compete against the UFC's if its true the way it's rumored. Just look at what happened to bodog when they thought Fedor would bring them all there sales and they didnt even go against the UFC that night.

Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin
Brandon Vera vs. Reese Andy
Frank Edgar vs. Hermes Franca
Cain Velasquez vs. Jake O’Brien
Anthony Johnson vs. Kevin Burns

Possible participans

Wandy
Hendo
Franklin

Im not sure what we are debating, but a free card vs a pay per view, the free card is always going to have more viewers, not to mention that all the tufers will be watching this because of "fedor who"

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia
Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo
Andrei Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell
Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Nascimento
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Vernon White
Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead

on fox sports net

Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Vernon White
Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

That looks like a stacked card to me. Theres a ton more fighters on the affliction card, that even someone that is slightly more than a casual mma viewer will know and want to see.

homsar · 06-18-2008, 09:56 AM

The card has tons of big names, just terrible Matchmaking.

Would rather have seen

Fedor Vs. Sylvia
Arlovski Vs. Barnett
Babalu Vs. Nog
Aleksander Vs. Rizzo
Belfort Vs. Whitehead

BigMovieBuff · 06-18-2008, 12:22 PM

Is the Affliction event sponsored by Geritol?

Aetos · 06-18-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMovieBuff

Is the Affliction event sponsored by Geritol?

Not that I have heard. You are somewhat right about the Affliction event Homsar, there are alot of big names, but the matchups aren't that great. The same can be said the the UFC event as well. However, the UFC did just announce that they would be holding this event recently. Obviously to compete with the Affliction event of the same night. We have known about the Affliction event for at least two months now.

Many people are saying that you have to be a hardcore MMA fan in order to get the Affliction PPV, but I disagree. I am probably far from a hardcore fan, but I order all the PPV's from UFC, and here is a chance to see a lot of great fighters that I wouldn't normally get to see because on conflicting interests

Grimmlokk · 06-18-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by homsar

Would rather have seen

Fedor Vs. Sylvia
Arlovski Vs. Barnett
Babalu Vs. Nog
Aleksander Vs. Rizzo
Belfort Vs. Whitehead

No. Arlovski vs. Rothwell is awesome. It's about GD time Rothwell got a shot against some top end competition and I am looking forward to that fight almost as much as the Fedor one.

And Barnett vs. Rizzo is good more for story than the actual match. I don't see how you can call either one bad matchmaking. They are putting on fights that will be entertaining and mostly competitive, not sure what about that screams "terrible matchmaking". Though I agree 100% I'd rather see Nog vs. Babalu.

homsar · 06-18-2008, 03:37 PM

I would just rather see fights that people have been waiting for over the past 4 years. Just have rothwell fight aleksander since they are ranked around the same as eachother.

I dont see how you would rather see the card as it is over this

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia
Josh Barnett vs. Andrei Arlovski or Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo
Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira or Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead
Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Ben Rothwell or Andrei Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell
Vitor Belfort vs. Matt Lindland or Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Nascimento
Paul Buentello vs. Pedro Rizzo or Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello
Vernon White Vs. Terry Martin. or Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Vernon White

Grimmlokk · 06-18-2008, 03:58 PM

Your fight card has changed in just a few short hours, the fighters are not going to like that sir.

And I didn't say it's perfect, I said it's not "terrible matchmaking". They are signed to fight specific guys, it's not a case of "You are fighting July 19th, we'll decide on someone eventually". The real matchmakers don't get to just say what fights they want to see and it magically happens. Barnett *wants* to fight Rizzo. And other fights have taken months to put together. And if they did it your way they'd have 5 matches people give a shit about and 5-6 no one wants to see. They spread the names around a bit to make for a better top to bottom card as a whole viewing experience. And they have put together a great card. Not all the matches are going to be all time greats, but to call them terrible is a bit over the top.

It's all fine to say "Wouldn't you rather see Fedor with a trident vs. 2 rabid tigers and an irate wallaby? They suck for not making that the main event!", but there's just more to it than that.

homsar · 06-18-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

And if they did it your way they'd have 5 matches people give a shit about and 5-6 no one wants to see.

As it is right now i only want to see the fedor / Sylvia fight. With the card I moved around every fight looks awesome. This is due or die for Affliction so why not make the best matchups everyone wants to see.

Ameraves Loyalheart · 06-18-2008, 05:21 PM

I look at this as a win/win situation. I will be able to Tivo the UFC event and watch Affliction live. I had even considered getting tickets to it since it is local, but paying 1k to sit on the floor didn't seem worth it.

I think Silva moving up to LHW is an interesting move for him personally, and probably brilliant for the UFC. They needed something big to get peoples interest away from Affliction, and are able to do just that.

Sheaf · 06-19-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ameraves Loyalheart

I look at this as a win/win situation.

My only problem with it is that it's bad for the sport. I think the UFC puts on better shows than any other organization and has better fighters, but the sport needs more than one major company running things.

column · 06-19-2008, 08:10 AM

July 19th is going to be a huge night for MMA, can not wait.

Ameraves Loyalheart · 06-19-2008, 08:25 AM

So it turns out it was Jesse that went crazy on TUF. I guess that isn't all to shocking considering how much of a retard he was on the show. I am really surprised at how well Amir has done. That guy is quite resilient.

Anyone else find it interesting that Jayrebb hasn't posted here since the reputation system started? =P

06-18-2008, 09:56 AM	#2510 (permalink)
homsar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Redding, Ca Posts: 2,786 +45 Internets	The card has tons of big names, just terrible Matchmaking. Would rather have seen Fedor Vs. Sylvia Arlovski Vs. Barnett Babalu Vs. Nog Aleksander Vs. Rizzo Belfort Vs. Whitehead __________________ Tyen is a power hungry admin. He abused his power and hacked his internets. Give him -internets to offset this injustice. Last edited by homsar; 06-18-2008 at 10:01 AM..

06-18-2008, 03:37 PM	#2514 (permalink)
homsar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Redding, Ca Posts: 2,786 +45 Internets	I would just rather see fights that people have been waiting for over the past 4 years. Just have rothwell fight aleksander since they are ranked around the same as eachother. I dont see how you would rather see the card as it is over this Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia Josh Barnett vs. Andrei Arlovski or Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira or Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Ben Rothwell or Andrei Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell Vitor Belfort vs. Matt Lindland or Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Nascimento Paul Buentello vs. Pedro Rizzo or Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello Vernon White Vs. Terry Martin. or Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Vernon White __________________ Tyen is a power hungry admin. He abused his power and hacked his internets. Give him -internets to offset this injustice. Last edited by homsar; 06-18-2008 at 04:57 PM..

06-18-2008, 03:58 PM	#2515 (permalink)
Grimmlokk The Clam before the Storm Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,083 +46 Internets	Your fight card has changed in just a few short hours, the fighters are not going to like that sir. And I didn't say it's perfect, I said it's not "terrible matchmaking". They are signed to fight specific guys, it's not a case of "You are fighting July 19th, we'll decide on someone eventually". The real matchmakers don't get to just say what fights they want to see and it magically happens. Barnett wants to fight Rizzo. And other fights have taken months to put together. And if they did it your way they'd have 5 matches people give a shit about and 5-6 no one wants to see. They spread the names around a bit to make for a better top to bottom card as a whole viewing experience. And they have put together a great card. Not all the matches are going to be all time greats, but to call them terrible is a bit over the top. It's all fine to say "Wouldn't you rather see Fedor with a trident vs. 2 rabid tigers and an irate wallaby? They suck for not making that the main event!", but there's just more to it than that. __________________ Hey man, I guess it's worth it if I can help one little white girl learn the difference between a black man and a refrigerator. - Walter

06-19-2008, 08:25 AM	#2520 (permalink)
Ameraves Loyalheart Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,184	So it turns out it was Jesse that went crazy on TUF. I guess that isn't all to shocking considering how much of a retard he was on the show. I am really surprised at how well Amir has done. That guy is quite resilient. Anyone else find it interesting that Jayrebb hasn't posted here since the reputation system started? =P Last edited by Ameraves Loyalheart; 06-19-2008 at 08:28 AM..

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06-18-2008, 08:19 AM	#2506 (permalink)
Asmadai the Venerable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,720	Fedor will man handle Sylvia. It's been so long since Fedor fought, that yes, people may begin to doubt his ablities, but to be fair, it's been so long since Sylvia has fought, perhaps everyone forgot that he blows donkey dick at fighting? Aside from the Fedor/Sylvia card, although the rest of the match-ups for Affliction may not be the best, i'm always glad at an opportunity to see Barnett/Babalu/Lindland/little Nog fight.

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BigMovieBuff Detroit Lions: 0-16 2008 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 765 +13 Internets	Is the Affliction event sponsored by Geritol?

06-18-2008, 05:21 PM	#2517 (permalink)
Ameraves Loyalheart Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,184	I look at this as a win/win situation. I will be able to Tivo the UFC event and watch Affliction live. I had even considered getting tickets to it since it is local, but paying 1k to sit on the floor didn't seem worth it. I think Silva moving up to LHW is an interesting move for him personally, and probably brilliant for the UFC. They needed something big to get peoples interest away from Affliction, and are able to do just that.