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Old 06-10-2009, 06:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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72 year old lady tazed

Tasing of 72-year-old woman was appropriate, officials say

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Tasing of 72-year-old woman was appropriate, officials say
Woman posed a danger during traffic stop on Texas 71, official says.

By Isadora Vail , Patrick George
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Travis County law enforcement officials are standing behind the actions of a constable who used a Taser on a 72-year-old woman during a May traffic stop, saying the officer acted properly in a dangerous situation.

Deputy Constable Christopher Beize used a Taser on Kathryn Winkfein after she resisted arrest when he pulled her over for speeding, according to an incident report.

Winkfein was driving west on Texas 71 in western Travis County on May 11 when Beize pulled her over, the report says.

Beize wrote a citation for Winkfein for going 60 mph in a 45 mph construction zone, but the 4-foot-11-inch woman refused to sign it and told Beize that he was "going to have to take her to jail," the document says. Beize told her she was going to be arrested for refusing to promise to appear by signing the top of the citation, the report says.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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She yelled at Winkfein to give her the citation and said she would sign it but was not following commands, the report says. Beize said Winkfein tried to take his ticket book away, telling Beize to Tase her or take her to jail, according to the affidavit. As Beize was trying to arrest her, she tried to get back in her truck, the affidavit says.

Sgt. Maj. Gary Griffin of the constable's office said Winkfein was belligerent, pushed Beize into oncoming traffic and nearly stepped into it herself. "She was using language I wouldn't expect any woman to use, let alone a 72-year-old woman," Griffin said.

She continued to not listen to Beize's demands and was Tased, the incident report says. She was Tased again after not staying on the ground, as commanded, according to the report.
You left out the part where she resisted arrest, committed attempted murder on a police officer, attempted to flee, and did about everything you can to justify a tazing.

This isn't news, it happens more than you think. Hippy.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You left out the part where she resisted arrest, committed attempted murder on a police officer, attempted to flee, and did about everything you can to justify a tazing.

This isn't news, it happens more than you think. Hippy.

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Old 06-10-2009, 06:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but if you can't handle yourself a 4'11" 72-year old woman you shouldn't be a cop.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah, because reaching a certain age means you can't hurt people. Srsly, you hit 65 and the police issue you a get out of tazing free card.


Fucking hippies.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but if you can't handle yourself a 4'11" 72-year old woman you shouldn't be a cop.
What you fail to understand is that tazing is actually the preferred method for controlling someone in this situation because it's less likely to result in an injury. Physically restraining the woman might have broken a bone or resulted in bruising and lacerations. The tazer produces neuro-muscular incapacitation for a few seconds. The only injuries result from falling to the ground during the tazing.

Which looks better? Bringing a banged up and bruised 72 year old into lockup or one who looks just fine? If she brings a lawsuit the former might get her a pay day.
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What you fail to understand is that tazing is actually the preferred method for controlling someone in this situation because it's less likely to result in an injury. Physically restraining the woman might have broken a bone or resulted in bruising and lacerations. The tazer produces neuro-muscular incapacitation for a few seconds. The only injuries result from falling to the ground during the tazing.

Which looks better? Bringing a banged up and bruised 72 year old into lockup or one who looks just fine? If she brings a lawsuit the former might get her a pay day.
A cop shouldn't have any difficulties restraining a 72-year old woman. Also note that story does specifically state that even Taser says they should not be used on the elderly.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey guys, tazing is totally fine to use as a restraint method, even though it's supposed to be only used in lieu of deadly force. Before tazers, this dumb bitch would have been shot dead on the spot and driven to the morgue, right? Fuck you, I'm proud to be a god damn hippie.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If the bitch really committed attempted murder on a police officer?

Yeah, granny'd be in the morgue.
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No offense, but if a police officer can't control a 72 year old, 4-foot-11-inch women without hurting her or using a tazer he's not fit for being a cop.
I mean seriously, just put your hand on her head and keep her at bay until she falls asleep from exhaustion after 5 min.

Thats almost as bad as this one, using a tazer and 3 bullets on a 2 pound dog...wtf...
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I see none of the following...

1) pictures of said 72 year old women getting tazed
2) video of said 72 year old getting tazed
3) tits of said 72 year old


why is this in FoHSS again?
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If the bitch really committed attempted murder on a police officer?

Yeah, granny'd be in the morgue.
Uhu, if she had a fire arm and shot at the cops I'm pretty sure they would have shot her from a safe distance.
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Uhu, if she had a fire arm and shot at the cops I'm pretty sure they would have shot her from a safe distance.
Cause a gun is the only way to attempt to kill somebody.
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Hey guys, tazing is totally fine to use as a restraint method, even though it's supposed to be only used in lieu of deadly force. Before tazers, this dumb bitch would have been shot dead on the spot and driven to the morgue, right? Fuck you, I'm proud to be a god damn hippie.
Tazers are not used in lieu of deadly force. On the use of force continuum for most departments it's above physical restraint, below impact weapons, and on the same level as OC spray.

Before tazers she would've been OC sprayed and physically restrained. Physically restrained means tackled and held down. If you aren't aware, doing that to a 72 year old woman can break bones and will cause bruising. Tazers cause no long term side effects, the tazer effect ends when the weapon cycles off.
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