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Old 06-12-2009, 06:13 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Violently shoving her from the shoulder almost off the highway isn't provoking a response? Now granted the crazy old bitch is fucking stupid for not taking the ticket and going off on her merry way, but the cop handled the situation poorly that cannot be denied. He had multiple ways to handle that in response to how bat shit insane she was. Shoving her how he did and using his taser, even after five warnings definitely was not the optimal choice there. The cop fucked up end of story.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:04 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Violently shoving her from the shoulder almost off the highway isn't provoking a response? Now granted the crazy old bitch is fucking stupid for not taking the ticket and going off on her merry way, but the cop handled the situation poorly that cannot be denied. He had multiple ways to handle that in response to how bat shit insane she was. Shoving her how he did and using his taser, even after five warnings definitely was not the optimal choice there. The cop fucked up end of story.
Please outline the proper action plan for this situation.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:33 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Handcuff the woman, you know police did that before they had tazers right? Fucking pussy ass cops, stop eating your donuts and you might be able to handcuff a 72 year old woman.

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Old 06-12-2009, 11:05 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Handcuff the woman, you know police did that before they had tazers right? Fucking pussy ass cops, stop eating your donuts and you might be able to handcuff a 72 year old woman.

Oh please give me more negs that says "get a brain moran" someone should hook up spell checker for you stupid fucks on the reputation section.
Sounds like someone needs to get tazed.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:11 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Whats the big deal about being tazed anyway? Yeah it hurts, but have you seen what the cops do when they try to cuff someone resisting?
It usually results in a cop or two with their knee on the back of your neck, bending your arm around your back like youre Stretch Armstrong. It doesnt look like a walk in the park either.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:16 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Sounds like someone needs to get tazed.
Nope, i have never put myself in the position to get tazed because i know just how fucking corrupt most of police are so i give them no reason to. I just find it funny someone calls me a hippy because i believe a cop should actually do his job, call me a hippy i call you and the cops you defend a pussy for tazing a 72 year old woman, cut down on the donuts.
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I'd like to see anyone who simply says 'OMG JUST HANDCUFF HER!' try and handcuff anyone who really does not want to be. Especially by yourself. Good fucking luck.

I realize she's an old lady, but if she started flailing around and he was having to wrestle with her, it would just increase the chance of her getting injured even more. Mind you, this is also on the side of a fucking busy highway.

But oh yeah, he definitely should have just done this...
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:07 AM   #128 (permalink)
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You are so totally right, i mean cops just shot people and hauled them off before stun guns right?
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You are so totally right, i mean cops just shot people and hauled them off before stun guns right?
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:01 AM   #130 (permalink)
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Nope, i have never put myself in the position to get tazed because i know just how fucking corrupt most of police are so i give them no reason to. I just find it funny someone calls me a hippy because i believe a cop should actually do his job, call me a hippy i call you and the cops you defend a pussy for tazing a 72 year old woman, cut down on the donuts.
You know that movie, 12 angry men
Where that one guy wont see the logic because he holds extreme bias?

Corrupt police officers are not interested in tazing you, they're interested in money.

Furthermore when you say "JUST CUFF HER" you skip a very big LOGICAL step by oversimplifying the situation, it's like when you're working on your car and it says "step 3, remove engine down to head" it's a lot easier said than done.

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Old 06-13-2009, 11:18 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Fuck that ignorant lying cunt. You got caught speeding, sign the fucking paper and drive off.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:22 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Please outline the proper action plan for this situation.
Work at a DA's office, recently spoke with a cop about a case he had to testify on. Two dudes walking down a street one is a known burglar who the cop and his partner have identified. The burglar and friend see the unmarked car the officers were driving coming towards them and dart down a side street for whatever reason. The cops car pulls up identifies themselves as cop. Burglars friends reaches down into his coat pocket. Now what does the cop do? He could easily pull his weapon here to protect himself and even told me he was afraid for his life. However, as he was getting out of the car he quickly positioned himself out of harms way, grabbed the friend put him up against a car and frisked for weapons, of which he found 2 sharp metal rods. This was a middle age man who could have caused much more harm than a 72 year old women. Did the cop violently shove this person? No Did he taze this person? No Did he draw his weapon when he was imminent danger? No. He used his training to diffuse a potentially hostile situation. The officer from Texas? Not so much. If you honestly think he did the correct thing, let's hope you are not a cop anywhere. What could have been done? A number of things including calling in for back up, however is a 72 year old lady that much of a threat to the officer? Fuck no. Other cops prove you don't have to be an overbearing asshole to get your job done.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:47 PM   #133 (permalink)
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He positioned himself out of harms way and frisked the friend for weapons

Was harms way not within arms length of the friend? What was the other guy doing? By positioning himself out of harms way do you mean he dove the fuck out because he thought he was getting pulled on? What are you trying to accomplish with this story? Do you not understand the valid point that tazing may have just as easily prevented this lovely old lady injury as easily as it could have caused it? Do you realize that the situation in doubt was resolved without any harm done and the only negative was riling up the hippie masses? Do you realize that all it takes is to get shot once and you're dead? Do you think i believe this story about a cop who would take a bullet because some burglar doesn't want 6 mo. in jail?

Here is my 5 year plan i just made up
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8. Debate
9. Get fired, go to jail
10. Do my 20-30 year stint
11. Get out
12. Debate on foh
13. Realize the error of my ways
14. Live the rest of my life in recluse.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:10 PM   #134 (permalink)
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He positioned himself out of harms way and frisked the friend for weapons

Was harms way not within arms length of the friend? What was the other guy doing? By positioning himself out of harms way do you mean he dove the fuck out because he thought he was getting pulled on? What are you trying to accomplish with this story? Do you not understand the valid point that tazing may have just as easily prevented this lovely old lady injury as easily as it could have caused it? Do you realize that the situation in doubt was resolved without any harm done and the only negative was riling up the hippie masses? Do you realize that all it takes is to get shot once and you're dead? Do you think i believe this story about a cop who would take a bullet because some burglar doesn't want 6 mo. in jail?

Here is my 5 year plan i just made up
1. Quit job
2. Become cop
3. Beat the fuck out of everyone
4. Taze them
5. Shoot them
6. Post videos here
7. Inquire as to the humanity of my methods
8. Debate
9. Get fired, go to jail
10. Do my 20-30 year stint
11. Get out
12. Debate on foh
13. Realize the error of my ways
14. Live the rest of my life in recluse.
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Its clear from this thread that many people have zero clue as to how the public police relationship works.

First you need to understand that the police have a right that basically trumps all your rights that right being to be able to arrest you. The police have not only the right to arrest for something they think you did they have the right to arrest you for simply being uncooperative in order to force you to be cooperative.

You have zero rights when dealing with the police except for the right to remain silent. If your arrested then you will go before a judge and can then try and argue that you have rights. The judge will then determine if you do are not because thats what judges are for.

Police exist to arrest people that is what they do they do not exist to protect your rights they exist to remove criminals from society. The police do not decide guilt are innocence that role belongs to judges and juries.

They do make a subjective call that there is enough information to make a arrest but that just a temporary decision that will go before a judge to determine if it valid.

Trying to argue with the police is pointless because they will make the decision based on what they see. They will not negotiate with you because they don't want negotiate with every single person they question are arrest. Arguing Insulting threatening the police is never going to work because the police do not want to be argued with threatened of insulted by everyone they arrest or question. IF a police officer tells you to do something then you do it period if you fail to do so then you will face being Tazed Shot Maced Clubbed Punched Placed in various Choke Hold being thrown to the ground are wall because that is what happens when you tell a police officer no the reason for this is even though you maybe totally Innocent the police do not want to told no by every other person they arrest are question.

This is how it works its worked that way for at least 100 years and my guess is it will be working about the same way in another 100 years so some of you need to get clue.
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