72 year old lady tazed

[TheCutlery]

Originally Posted by Eomer

They should be viewed as an alternative to lethal force, not an "I WIN THE ARGUMENT" button.

Raise your hand if you've ever won an argument with a cop.

I mean, come on. If some simple common sense were used, tazings would go down a ton. You're not going to win an argument with a cop. If you're not happy with his performance, you either go to court or you report his badge number to his superiors. You don't have any reason at all to be arguing with him, and doing it means it's only going to end badly for you, so just fucking knock it off. Take your ticket, admit you're being a dumbfuck and go on your way.

It's the same way the union deals with management at my work. Yes, management may in fact be out of line with what they ask you to do, but you do it, and then you grieve it later. That's the process. There's the same process in the legal system in this country, and more often than not, if you got a citation or a charge that's unwarranted, a judge will look at it and throw it out anyway.

[SalaciousTunare]

If a 72 year old 4'11" woman pushed me and I moved even one inch, I think I'd turn the tazer on myself.

[Picasso]

Her screams of tazed agony made me lol.

[James]

Originally Posted by TheCutlery

Raise your hand if you've ever won an argument with a cop.

You know, my dad did once when I was a kid. He basically rolled through a stop sign in the neighborhood that shouldn't have been a fucking stop sign in the first place, and a cop pulled him over for it. Now, our neighborhood was basically a square. Not like generally in the shape of, or lots of little streets going in and out of a square based neighborhood pattern. I'm talkin a short ass fucking square that was maybe a mile all the way around. I'm talkin less than 300 goddamn people in the entire thing. Imagine the supreme asshole-ishness you need to park your ass in this neighborhood, where literally no one in the entire existence of it has been so much as honked at, let alone hit, and you've got the mentality of the cop right there.

But then when he was getting ready to write the ticket my dad says, you know you can't write that. The cop, of course, was like. What? The fuck I can't? My dad says nope, you were parked on the wrong side of the street, and that's dangerous considering the flow of traffic here. It would be hypocritical, sir.

And sure enough he was let the fuck off. So yeah. I've seen it happen before.

[Cascow]

Originally Posted by TheCutlery

Raise your hand if you've ever won an argument with a cop.

Hmm, I still ate the ticket, but I won on the karmic scale.

Couple summers back I was driving a friends car from the shop to his house. He lived about 70 miles from where the work was getting done on the car, and it was close to my work, so he asked me to pick it up and drive it out on a Friday.

Well I was speeding and got a ticket, fair enough. Where to story goes off the rails is when I went to look for the registration and found that it wasn't in the car. It seems that the shop doing the work didn't notice that the registration was tucked into the side console of the drivers door when they replaced it.

So, long story short: The officer took my keys and drivers license, left me on the side of the road and told me he would be back in an hour, by which time my friend was to be there with a copy of the registration and proof of ownership or the car was going to impound and I was going to a holding cell.

Almost 2 hours later he comes rolling up, looks at the paperwork, is a general douche about the situation (read that as he wrote out a ticket for everything he could possibly charge me with in the situation), hands me the keys and drives off....with my drivers license still shoved squarely up his over-ego'd ass.

Several phone calls to the department and 2 days later, he shows up at my doorstep and appologizes to me.

PS: All charges were dropped except the speeding ticket, which I would have gladly accepted and paid in the first place. As I was, you know...speeding.

[BurnemWizfyre]

Had a cop give me a ticket for "speeds unsafe for conditions" when he wasn't able to clock me with his radar because he wasnt even trying to clock people when i flew right the fuck by him. Went into court the next day with a printed copy of the weather report from the night before and the judge dismissed the ticket.

[Snugglebear]

Originally Posted by James

You know, my dad did once when I was a kid. He basically rolled through a stop sign in the neighborhood that shouldn't have been a fucking stop sign in the first place, and a cop pulled him over for it. Now, our neighborhood was basically a square. Not like generally in the shape of, or lots of little streets going in and out of a square based neighborhood pattern. I'm talkin a short ass fucking square that was maybe a mile all the way around. I'm talkin less than 300 goddamn people in the entire thing. Imagine the supreme asshole-ishness you need to park your ass in this neighborhood, where literally no one in the entire existence of it has been so much as honked at, let alone hit, and you've got the mentality of the cop right there.

But then when he was getting ready to write the ticket my dad says, you know you can't write that. The cop, of course, was like. What? The fuck I can't? My dad says nope, you were parked on the wrong side of the street, and that's dangerous considering the flow of traffic here. It would be hypocritical, sir.

And sure enough he was let the fuck off. So yeah. I've seen it happen before.

Yeah, but the cop was probably on some bullshit call-in where one of your whiny neighbors (an old person, or a person with a retarded child that runs into the street often) called the police and complained because there were rolling stops and people were pushing 25 in a neighborhood clearly marked as 20 mph. So this guy gets sent down there to appease and sits there for half a day giving warnings.

[Arakkis]

The lady was moving toward the driver's side door. If she slipped around the cop, ran out into traffic, was hit, and killed this would be a hell of a more serious story. Bitch is a liar and deserved what she got.

[Al Capwn]

Originally Posted by EmpireF4i

Even though the lady refused everything the cop told her, and resisted arrest, shes going to win a law suit against this department and their policies.

Originally Posted by Quineloe

That would be good.

So Quineloe McDouche, go get a shirt monogrammed with QUINLOE FTW!!!1 and perform the same actions as the aforementioned old cunt, get it taped, then try and sue.... PM me your PayPal info and I'll give you $1,000 USD on top of whatever you win from the lawsuit if you pull it off.

Fuck you, that is all.

[EmpireF4i]

Originally Posted by TheCutlery

Raise your hand if you've ever won an argument with a cop.

Ive never put myself into a situation to have to argue with a police officer.

Sure, she maybe should not have been tased because she was old and tiny, but she put herself in the situation to be tased or worse when she refused to follow the law and sign her citation and then resist the officer.

What sucks is that she will still probably win in court or just settle out because its cheaper for the agency than trying to fight it.

[Khempis]

I really don't approve of tasers. There really isn't a need for them.

If they don't want to cooperate you can do a lot of things other than tazing an elderly woman. When people wouldn't get out of vehicles for me on felony stops, I'd simply tell them that that was fine. A unit with a canine would be out in a matter of moments and we'd be happy to send in the dog to have him removed from the vehicle. Now, felony stops have a lot more to them than some old lady.

Not saying that the cop was in the right or the wrong, because I haven't seen the video and/or audio since I'm at work, and NMCI doesn't allow such things as that, unfortunately. But I'm sure he could have found a way to de-escalate the situation were he semi-intelligent. But we all have bad days, and nobody is without flaws, especially law enforcement officers.

[Rorek]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Wow, cops are that poorly paid in parts of the US. I have no idea what the national average is, but cops in Western Canada start out making at least 60k a year, I believe. it's one of the better jobs out there for someone without a university education, and they're extremely selective about who can make it. A guy who works for me tried to get in, and was rejected on the grounds that when asked what the most alcohol he had consumed in an evening in the past two years was 8 beers (he lied, of course, it was probably double). That was enough for them to reject him.



And that I have a problem with, due to the fact that a certain (very small, admittedly) percentage of people can be killed by tazers, whereas the likelihood of dieing from OC spray or being whacked with a baton are much, much less likely.

In Ontario I believe our OPP officers are required to have a College/University diploma and then complete police academy. I would say they make approximately 40k a year.

[EmpireF4i]

Originally Posted by Rorek

In Ontario I believe our OPP officers are required to have a College/University diploma and then complete police academy. I would say they make approximately 40k a year.

Thats horrible for having a college education but I guess its on par with, say a teacher.

[Rorek]

Ontario Provincial Police Prerequisites

I guess I was wrong about the education requirement.

Ontario Provincial Police Benefits and Pay

But the wages are about what I expected.

[Khempis]

Originally Posted by EmpireF4i

Thats horrible for having a college education but I guess its on par with, say a teacher.

Yeah, well the life of a public servant isn't where you go to make money. Virginia State Police is around 35,800 or so while in the academy, and then around 39k once you're through that (unless you're stuck up in northern VA around the D.C. outskirts where they give COLA). The academy is roughly 10 months. There weren't any college requirements, although we did have about 1,200 people apply, and roughly 70 applicants were accepted to attend the academy. The entire background process was far more thorough than the one I had to undergo for my Top Secret clearance in the military. The application process was about a year long, total. So it takes a bit of dedication.

But you always have people that are just assholes. You'll find them anywhere and everywhere you go. It just sucks when they are placed in a position of authority.