sappy stories from the bible

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Faith is important because it is a crutch for those who need it, and it can inspire people to greater heights than they could normally achieve.

Likewise, faith is horrible because it leads many misguided people to do things that are atrocious.

Summary? Faith, like any other tool, can be helpful or harmful. Use it sparingly.

[Brad2770]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Faith is important because it is a crutch for those who need it, and it can inspire people to greater heights than they could normally achieve.

Likewise, faith is horrible because it leads many misguided people to do things that are atrocious.

Summary? Faith, like any other tool, can be helpful or harmful. Use it sparingly.

Hate to say it, but I agree.

[Brad2770]

Originally Posted by aychamo_aycono

I am in no way insulting you. I just read your whole post about changing minds, etc. In no way is that even a remotely satisfying answer for me. I'm a natural skeptic. I require much deeper explanations for things to be even remotely convincing. Oh well.

God has to change because we change. He gave us free will. What fun would it be to have people praise you if they were programmed to do so?

The only thing in the Bible that was meant to follow exactly was the Ten Commandments. Everything else is events logged for future generations to know what had happened and how it was handled. Its just like the Exgirlfriend thread-

"Your story is similar to mine, but this is how I handled things...."

Find your similar story in the Bible and apply it to your life. It never has to be spot on and it never will be.

[aychamo_aycono]

Originally Posted by Brad2770

God has to change because we change. He gave us free will. What fun would it be to have people praise you if they were programmed to do so?

What kind of low-ass self-esteem having god needs to create an entire world just to have it praise him? (This is the "God is a loser" argument btw)

[Brad2770]

Originally Posted by aychamo_aycono

What kind of low-ass self-esteem having god needs to create an entire world just to have it praise him? (This is the "God is a loser" argument btw)

Who knows? if I did, I would be God.

I have asked my dad this question before:

"What if our God created 2 other worlds much like ours, but one of the worlds he was much involved and gave the people everything they needed and on the other world he was a cruel God and destroyed everything they worked for and was constantly giving them grief. On our world, he is not much involved and when he is, he can bring happiness and pain, so we are obviously in the middle. If you knew he has done this, would you worhsip him and love him the same?" and his answer:

"I love you for who you are. All I know of you is what I have observed and what you have told me. If I learned that you burned down our neighbors house on the left, but gave the neighbor on the right 100,000 dollars, my love wouldnt change, I would just have questions. Someone will always have questions for God, but if he answered them all, then no one would think for themselves."

Those are not exact words, but it is pretty close. I asked this back when i was about 16 or 17.

As for why God created a world to praise him? Why do people get pets? not saying we are God's pets, but its the best thing I could think of. Maybe he has the desire to care for something just like we do.

[Xantium]

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 1:25-26KJV

Ok, God made all the critters then man.

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul... And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Genesis 2:7,18-20KJV

God made man, saw he was lonely, and then made all the critters for him.

[Chips]

This is the ultra deep field taken by the Hubble space telescope. Each one of these is a galaxy with hundreds of billions of stars each. If each galaxy alone is able to host just one intelligent civilization there would be hundreds of thousands of intelligent civilizations wondering around space right now.

[Eomer]

I never get sick of looking at that picture. Yet I've tried showing it to friends, and they just kind of shrug.

[Fyro]

Originally Posted by Round

How do you expect to understand God when you don't understand the bible? You know nothing, but I'm the moron... uhh... right.


I bet no one here actually has something intelligent to challenge the bible with! If anyone can confirm to me a valid contradiction found within the bible, using biblical support to point out this contradiction. Then I'll commit suicide and post it on youtube. Good luck... You won't find a contradiction.

Theres no science to the old testament. It's very simple but everyone one of you write like you've studied the book for years.

Tell me Mymn, since I'm the moron. Why was God so quick to take the lives of people in the old testament? Anyone? When you can correctly answer this, then you have the rights to talk all the nonsense you want.

I have been looking for a signature for a while now, thanks, I just couldn´t pass this up. Epicly written. And, I have yet to see someone have more negs than posts. He is at 34 negs and 36 posts right now, do it for the team and give him two negs more. It would make my day.

[Believe]

Originally Posted by Brad2770

God has to change because we change.

wut

Malachi 3:6
"I the LORD do not change..."

The reality is, people change God because we change.

And I'll be the first to agree that the Bible has good teachings, with good parables. I would consider myself a good person, and I'd have to attribute some of that to being brought up in a Christian household...Even if you're a believing Christian, if you honestly think stories like Jonah and the Whale are anything more than a parable...well then I'm not sure what to say.

[Round]

Originally Posted by Believe

Round you skipped my post

How is God commanding people not to murder...then later...ordering them to murder, not a contradiction?

Old Testament.

Since there was no possible way for the blood of sin to be made pure, but hidden from the eyes of God. Many people who made mistakes died. Some mistakes brought forth severe punishment, or perhaps even their life! All depending on the sin that they've committed. If you betray God, you'll most likely face death. If you worship another God, you'll be warned to turn back, and if you don't..You're going to die. Moses, Joshua, and King David were people who killed so many! But they were doing the will of God by purging the land of evil. This...Was not their will but a command of God. You cannot kill at your will, but on God's.

Consider the way of God feels about impurity before you comment. Our blood is contaminated by Sin, and God cannot look upon sin. Same way how he threw Lucifer out of heaven light a bolt of lightning, same way how he'll take us off the face of the earth for disobeying him. In the Old Testament the jews would perform sacrifices to sort of " hide " the sins of the people from the eyes of God. The bible speaks about the sin being put into the middle of the earth with the blood of the animal. So it's like transferring your sin to the sacrificed animal. But that's not good enough....Jesus asked God when he was on the cross why did he forsaken him. Well, that's what sin does. Then Jesus died ( pure, royal, holy blood ), bringing death to sin in a way that no animal could ever do. <<<< This is why people don't die anymore like how they did before. But God still strikes people down himself . He'll NEVER tell anyone since the death of Christ to kill someone. Never!

[Mario Speedwagon]

Why can't god just make our blood not contaminated by sin? I mean, he's all powerful right? Why even go through the whole Jesus rigamaroll? Seems kinda pointless.

[Round]

Originally Posted by Chips

This is the ultra deep field taken by the Hubble space telescope. Each one of these is a galaxy with hundreds of billions of stars each. If each galaxy alone is able to host just one intelligent civilization there would be hundreds of thousands of intelligent civilizations wondering around space right now.

Allow me to use my imagination here. The universe is huge, and there are also billions of people on the earth now, plus billions more that have died, and billions more that died before them. Allow me to think, and dream....

1 Corinthians 2:9 No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love him.

Gee, God says he'll give us a crown in heaven. He'll also give us immortality and eternal happiness and riches and everything else. Wow theres soooo many galaxies out there, and God's kingdom is one place. Oh my! How gangsta would it be to populate a world or a star of my own with my wife, while using God's infinite wisdom to colonize it and start a world of my own and telling them about the bible and God That beats going to hell any day! But I have no idea what's up ahead for me.

Edit: Mario, I wish I knew how sin really worked in God's eyes. But where theres sin, God asks for blood. I really wish I could answer your question. If you ever find out, plz, let me know.

[Hachima]

Originally Posted by Round

How do you expect to understand God when you don't understand the bible? You know nothing, but I'm the moron... uhh... right.


I bet no one here actually has something intelligent to challenge the bible with! If anyone can confirm to me a valid contradiction found within the bible, using biblical support to point out this contradiction. Then I'll commit suicide and post it on youtube. Good luck... You won't find a contradiction.

Theres no science to the old testament. It's very simple but everyone one of you write like you've studied the book for years.

Tell me Mymn, since I'm the moron. Why was God so quick to take the lives of people in the old testament? Anyone? When you can correctly answer this, then you have the rights to talk all the nonsense you want.

A List Of Biblical Contradictions


Tell me there is at least one of those you can't explain.

[Dr. Rubicite]

Originally Posted by DavivMcD

Well I don't think you could have picked an easier one to refute. Just read a few verses earlier for the actual context, and you'll discover he was talking directly to the 11 apostles left after his resurrection, not to just anyone reading the verse. And some of the apostles wrote accounts of those exact miracles happening while they were spreading the gospel. Regardless of whether you believe it actually happened or not, it's at least consistent.

I'm not well versed on the Bible at ALL, I just figured this one seemed obvious enough to point out.

I don't want to get into it too far based on a joke, but...while it's true Jesus is talking to the apostles, he is referring in these verses to "he that believeth and be baptized" as the KJV puts it (Luke 10:19 provides some support for those that believe it refers to all Christians). If you think I'm alone in making this argument, there is a significant portion of Christians who believe in all this speaking in tongues/modern day miracles bullshit (Charismatics--who make up one quarter of all Christians worldwide--do, not to mention other denominations/individuals). Of course, my argument is bullshit anyway seeing as how "Mark" more than likely stopped writing at 16:8 and somebody else was just adding crap in...

EDIT: Also note that I wasn't attempting to offer a contradiction, I'm just checking his credentials.