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Old 05-09-2009, 10:44 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Example: There is a murder scene. Woman is partially naked. Officer takes photos and gives to friends. Photos get on the net, as always. My intuition is that this is against the law.

Likewise, girl get's her head ripped open - worse than being naked IMO.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:28 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Example: There is a murder scene. Woman is partially naked. Officer takes photos and gives to friends. Photos get on the net, as always. My intuition is that this is against the law.

Likewise, girl get's her head ripped open - worse than being naked IMO.
Precisely. Regardless of how reckless she was or whether she deserved it, law and justice is law and justice. No photos of the scene, it jeopardizes and comprises the efforts the people working on it. Outsiders are not privy to this, because of the risk they pose to the effort.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:41 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:42 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Eh, I really get what you guys are saying, but sharing photos of a murder scene is a bit different than a car accident. Sharing murder scene photos would be against the law because you're revealing evidence in an ongoing case, not because you're sharing photos of a naked women. I'm doubtful car accidents share the same legal restrictions.

Not that I don't think it should be against the law, they should most definitely have some legal obligation to protect privacy...but going by the judge's ruling, currently it seems they don't, although it is obviously the department's policy to do so.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:14 AM   #50 (permalink)
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We can take war photos but you think photos of an accident should be illegal? Shes dead, I guarantee she doesn't mind.

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Old 05-11-2009, 03:32 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Shes dead, I guarantee she doesn't mind.
Seconded. I'm sure those pictures went right over her head.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:16 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Yes we all know there have never been photos of murder scenes, even official ones. Hell there's videos of people getting killed and we play that shit over and over on TV. Raise your hand if you've seen the Zapruder film about 200 times in various movies/documentaries/etc. Raise your hand if you've seen the autopsy photos from JFK.

And since when are pictures of naked people illegal, even if unintentional? So if pictures of dead people are legal, and pictures of naked people are legal, why would pictures of dead naked people be illegal?

You guys make no sense whatsoever. You're just arguing from emotion.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:19 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Yes we all know there have never been photos of murder scenes, even official ones. Hell there's videos of people getting killed and we play that shit over and over on TV. Raise your hand if you've seen the Zapruder film about 200 times in various movies/documentaries/etc. Raise your hand if you've seen the autopsy photos from JFK.

And since when are pictures of naked people illegal, even if unintentional? So if pictures of dead people are legal, and pictures of naked people are legal, why would pictures of dead naked people be illegal?

You guys make no sense whatsoever. You're just arguing from emotion.
An uncle of mine was a DA and would leave out crime photos for his son and me to find, really awful stuff. The two that I remember clearly were the guy who had been beaten to death in the head with a bat, and a guy that was ice-picked in the face.

Fucked up shit for an 8 year old to see.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:28 AM   #54 (permalink)
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An uncle of mine was a DA and would leave out crime photos for his son and me to find, really awful stuff. The two that I remember clearly were the guy who had been beaten to death in the head with a bat, and a guy that was ice-picked in the face.

Fucked up shit for an 8 year old to see.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:56 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:15 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm sure you just can't imagine how it would impair law enforcement if the victims of crimes were allowed to hold the police to some standard of care regarding the treatment of their dead loved ones. Or lets say the bitch had lived, and sued the police dept for not responding fast enough, or violating the standard of care for first-responders to administer first aid.

No, I can't think of any situations where holding police to a standard of care would be a problem at all.

General transparency in police actions is better for everyone anyway - although some details will get out (like mug shots.. didn't everyone laugh at the people as we clicked on their mug shots knowing what they were arrested for? Why didn't you cockfags jump all over that going "HEY WUT ABOUT THESE PEOPLEZ PRIVACY IM NOT SURE WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS" but if it's a white girl in a porsche and her grieving parents get emailed the pictures, we give a shit and the officers should be fired? What about some of those cockeyed piss drunk mug shots with NAMES ON THEM, you think those don't get emailed to those people later in a harassing fashion? Why is it different?

It's not.
It is different. A mug shot is an officially taken picture. The argument is they should be held to limited non-disclosure. Basically; they shouldn't be allowed tot ake pictures of a crime scene and go post 'em willy-nilly.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:46 AM   #57 (permalink)
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A few years ago I was out in what we call west desert with a few friends, my brother and his wife, shooting some targets on a Saturday morning. We had a bunch of rifles, my buddy in the marines brought his AR15, had some 22's for the wimmins, etc. Anyways, one of our friends arrived late, and as it is in the middle of no where in the Utah desert, there are about a million dirt paths to take to get to the same place. We saw his truck coming up the road about 100 yards away from the road we took up ourselves, then he stopped. He calls us on his cell...

Long story short, some guy had shot himself in the head with a rifle, put the barrel under his jaw and shot straight up and was laying on the side of the road with a gigantic mess of what was left of his head all around. We went down, poked around for a min, called 911 so they could come. Before the CSI arrived two guys on four wheelers drove right by us, stopped, took out their cell phones, and took a bunch of pictures before driving off. Dunno if it was legal, but the cops weren't happy about it when we told them. We had taken some pictures with our phones, to show the cops what it was like when we found it or whatever, and they stood there and made us delete them. Not that I really wanted to keep them anyways, but yeah. It was pretty nasty - the majority of his brain was like 2 feet away from his body, but there was blood and pieces of his skull and brain and shit for like 30 feet all around, literally. Down the road like 30 feet we found a bloody piece of his head that was the size of a baseball or more. CSI came up to us at the end (we had to stay on scene for like 5 hours while they made sure it wasn't us who killed the dood) and, very seriously, looked each of us in the eye, then said...

"There's just one thing we can't figure out..."

*dramatic pause while all of us think 'oh shit oh shit they think we did it'*

"Why didn't any of you try to give him mouth to mouth?!"

"....."

They then stared at us like we're retarded cause they're all laughing and we're standing there with our mouths open. Then my buddy, who found the guy first says, "Well we'd have to find his lips for that..."

They busted up, yelling that they hadn't found them yet either. Was pretty gross. I guess CSI have to find that shit funny or they'd go insane from depression...and while it's funny now that I think of it, years later, at the time I was just like .....wtf.

They also made a few jokes about taking us out for meaty spaghetti for lunch since they kept us there so long.
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