The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by Tarrant220

The thing is aychamo, you have to have confidence in yourself and not be completely butt ugly

Most women think they are average even the hot ones. Just talk to the hottest girl you see and treat her like shes ok and she will work to impress you. Say things like.. "Your ok or you look decent" and not things like "OMG YOUR SO FUCKING HOT GAWD!!!" **

*Disclaimer: If you have mass amounts of acne, still wearing that 2 yr old outfit, haven't taken a shower in a week then you have no chance.

[wamphyr]

Yes, that is what i have been saying earlier in this thread.

All this fluff, openings, negs, etc, all this system really does not work for me.
I am not a monster, i am just really thin. I am really communicative and i've got verbal skills, i work as a translator, for fucks sake ! I've done translations in business meetings, live, with no prior script, so i think fast and i can verbalize my thoughts.

But all this is for naught. I get the girls that are desperate to the extent that they would sleep with me even if i were a mute or a mime.

The girls that don't like thin nerds, they will not sleep with me even if i wrote the book on the pick-ups game. And trust me, thats a lot of them.

Anyway, my point is that i call bullshit on all this "Game". I learned on my own skin that looks are a condition sine-qua-non. The cover is more important than the book. And the material the cover is made of is more important than the words on that cover.

I will die alone.

[Taranatar]

Originally Posted by wamphyr

Anyway, my point is that i call bullshit on all this "Game". I learned on my own skin that looks are a condition sine-qua-non.

This is why you fail.

[Tarrant220]

Originally Posted by wamphyr

Yes, that is what i have been saying earlier in this thread.

All this fluff, openings, negs, etc, all this system really does not work for me.
I am not a monster, i am just really thin. I am really communicative and i've got verbal skills, i work as a translator, for fucks sake ! I've done translations in business meetings, live, with no prior script, so i think fast and i can verbalize my thoughts.

But all this is for naught. I get the girls that are desperate to the extent that they would sleep with me even if i were a mute or a mime.

The girls that don't like thin nerds, they will not sleep with me even if i wrote the book on the pick-ups game. And trust me, thats a lot of them.

Anyway, my point is that i call bullshit on all this "Game". I learned on my own skin that looks are a condition sine-qua-non. The cover is more important than the book. And the material the cover is made of is more important than the words on that cover.

I will die alone.

Good Lord I hope I don't sound like that......

I'm not saying I've no confidence in myself Sharmai, but I do know where I rank in the looks department. Hygiene is good, I wear new clothes and no acne. I'm not dumb enough to post a picture of myself on these forums lol, so I guess you'll just have to take my word for it.

[OhSeven]

Originally Posted by wamphyr

stuff

Simply put.

[aychamo_aycono]

Originally Posted by Taranatar

This is why you fail.

To be honest, Taranatar is right. It's infinitely easier to just say that the "game" stuff doesn't work, or that it doesn't work for you, etc, than it is to actually go out and do it! And you have to put some WORK into it. You won't go out your first time and pickup Jessica Alba. It takes a lot of practice. For a lot of guys talking to girls comes naturally, for a whole lot more of the guys it doesn't come natural. I think the Mystery-style game is great for getting your feet in the water. It's a great way to be able to go up to a girl and not freeze. But you'll NEVER be able to do ANYTHING if you don't at least TRY.

Once you try and you get rejected the first 20 times or whatever you'll be so immune to being rejected that it'll be funny - who gives a shit if this girl didn't like you? You're the best guy in the room and if she doesn't like you, then fuck her, she's an idiot!

Lately I've been listening to the pickup podcast (whoever is remotely interested in this shit, you absolutely HAVE to listen to this podcast, it is literally a goldmine of free information. It's absolutely life changing) and have been learning a lot about inner game and natural game, and that is by far the better style of pickup than Mystery's social robot programming stuff (WHICH DOES WORK, mind you!)

So, dude, just get out there and try the stuff. You have no idea if it works or not if you haven't opened at least a thousand women with the material.

[Tarrant220]

Oh I didn't say I wasn't going to try it, just have doubts I guess. Talking to women has never been a problem for me, my face has been the issue. lol

The past year's been pretty rough (see my original post in this thread) I've went through some changes and look a lot better then I have in years, just doubts linger though talking to me normally outside of here you wouldn't know it so I don't think that's really the issue either.

I'll try it starting after work tonight and let you know my results.

[Sharmai]

Try going into a bar and just being as wild as fuck all you can be. Don't try to get laid just try to talk to everyone. Hot as fuck girl or not. Be obnoxious, be loud, dance stupidly, drink excessively. Then when its all over just remember what shit you said had girls laughing and what shit you said had them walking away.

90% of this shit is confidence. The worst pickup lines in the world work when delivered by a guy who is 110% sure of himself.


Women always say they don't like stuck up guys. That's bullshit. They always go for the loudest, most obnoxious, redneck, hillbilly, jockstrap, asshole in there.

Change your clothes. Don't get something normal get flagrant. Get fucking wild. Go grab a rainbow button up shirt and sport that motherfucker like your The Pimp (tm) returned. Walk your completely ridiculous ass right up to the hottest chick in the bar and put on your most shit faced grin then PURPOSELY step her aside so you can talk to her friend and say "HOT DAMN! You are the HOTTEST chick in here. What you doin tonight sweetness? Get over here and dance!"

Grab her friends arm and completely ignore the hottest chick ever. Get wild and stupid on the dance floor and the rest will fall into place.



Confidence man. It's all about confidence.

[Dumar]

how about instead just be yourself and if the girl isn't interested, fuck them?

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by Dumar

how about instead just be yourself and if the girl isn't interested, fuck them?

DO NOT LISTEN TO RELATIONSHIP ADVICE FROM THIS MAN.

[Dumar]

i wasn't giving any advice. if you have to put on peacock feathers and dance around screaming, what does that tell yourself about yourself?

[Horse]

I know this guy who looks like a straight across the border barefoot, weathered, barely speaks english, frumpy near-dwarf.

He asks every woman he sees if they'll go out with him. Literally anywhere from 20 to 100 a day. Every day.

Here is his routine:

"Hi. Would you like to go have [a drink / coffee / lunch / breakfast / dinner] with me?"

They usually, mostly, by far say no.

But he has at least 3 dates a week by doing this and gets laid at least a few times a month. A few of these have ended up being fuck pals that he lost interest in.


So really, if you're not at least doing that, shut the fuck up because your problem isn't "a game" or "your looks" it's that you have a romantic fantasy about how the world should work. Stick to that, then. Maybe one day you'll actually SAY that to a female and they'll say "I know, how awesome of you to agree with my ideas!"


To wamphyr directly: you're overgeneralizing people, especially women. You've never seen a woman with a butt-ugly or otherwise physiologically queer dude? There are so many other options... liquor, sluttiness, hell, even curiosity of what'd be like.

Not to mention this thing called the internet where a bunch of retards who think looks matter so much take haven on match.com and lie to each other with pics of people they think look good, or camera angles and photoshop.

Sounds like you're the picky one, and you probably give off an air of "I just want to fuck you in the face" when you approach someone. That's how awkwardness reads, like you have to do all of this yapping nonsense to get their snatch. Everyone knows this is the goal. If you ignore that part of it and go for their personality, guess what? All that hot gash you pine for probably don't live up to your expectations in that department.

They also don't pile up makeup, smash their tits together, put on the "A list" clothes to go out and have a deep conversation about planning the rest of their lives. There are places for that, you're perhaps not tapping those resources, so to speak.

Maybe you could try LARPing?

[Sharmai]

For the record I don't recommend picking up chicks at the club/bar/loung whatever. You get what you pay for and diseases are free.

Try wal-mart or a college campus. College campuses fucking own.

Use that divorce line but in person on a college campus. If the chick doesn't start roleplaying then get up and check out the next one. Eventually you'll get nice nerdy chick with a great body and flattered to have anyone talking to her and she will spend hours roleplaying with you.

[kollos]

i also learned that eye contact does wonders. it takes some practice since most people are used to look away rather quickly, but keep trying to stay on her eyes maybe put on a friendly smile, and check out her reaction.
looking at someone doesnt get you into trouble. just do it. often women will smile back at you, some will even come say hi to you.

if you consider yourself a nice guy, decent looking, etc. then women will probably think so too.

[aychamo_aycono]

Originally Posted by kollos

i also learned that eye contact does wonders. it takes some practice since most people are used to look away rather quickly, but keep trying to stay on her eyes maybe put on a friendly smile, and check out her reaction.
looking at someone doesnt get you into trouble. just do it. often women will smile back at you, some will even come say hi to you.

if you consider yourself a nice guy, decent looking, etc. then women will probably think so too.

I've done something similar to this recently, at bars if a girl looks at me I'll just signal for her to come over.

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Some people asked about this, here are three full conversations using the divorce shit. THESE ARE NOT MINE> these are the guys who invented it