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Old 10-09-2009, 12:25 AM   #6796 (permalink)
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wow what a hosebeast.

She fucked some guy after a few days. Are most women this whorish? I'd like to think so, because I know a few girls who bitch about their boyfriends to me.

Not that I'd fuck around on my current gf
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:42 AM   #6797 (permalink)
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wow what a hosebeast.

She fucked some guy after a few days. Are most women this whorish? I'd like to think so, because I know a few girls who bitch about their boyfriends to me.

Not that I'd fuck around on my current gf
That's why you stay away from the passionate, overtly emotion-driven types. Yea, they can be wild and fun, and offer a lot of affection, but they can also swing the other way in a heartbeat.

You really can't even be friends with most of them. I can't say for all, but they generally have a very flavor-of-the-month type attitude. I was pretty good friends with this one chick last year who, despite a 2 week notice, bailed on my birthday/going-away-to-korea party and I didn't hear from her for a week, all because of some new guy she had met. The entire like 8 months before that she acted like she fucking adored me more than I thought was possible. Then just last week I get a message from her on facebook saying she wanted to come visit me in Korea and didn't care about the cost (which would be the same or more money than she would be capable of saving up over the course of an entire year).

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Old 10-09-2009, 02:54 AM   #6798 (permalink)
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What a pussy. He could of at least used that as prime Anal blackmail for a few months and then dump her! All the while selling the necklace he got her on Ebay.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:16 AM   #6799 (permalink)
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I suggested this before but no one took me up on it, so I'll put my money where my mouth is. If you have a story with background info that's been posted previously, do us a favor and add the last post or something in spoilers. There's like 10 stories going on simultaneously and it's hard to keep track.

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I met DG again last night (Tuesday) with the absolute intention to get her to let me see her apartment. I come back from an obligation in Seoul 3 days a week about 1 hr before she finishes work, so I hang out around the area and study korean until she's off (note, I only did this AFTER we were already an established couple and she had already been saying things like "i miss you"), then we hang out for about 30 minutes before I have to catch the last bus home. It's not that ideal, but for a girl who works 70 hours a week it is a good solution. Well her work is on my way home, and her apartment is right next to it, whereas mine is a 25 min bus ride away. She hasn't let me see it yet because it is filled with clutter from work. My line is thinking is that those 30 minute meets can turn into some fun freaky nights without her wasting precious sleep time on travel, so I was pretty pushy, in a playful way, about getting her to let me see it.

Ultimately it was a failure which was pretty frustrating because I absolutely hate when a girl is self-conscious about something that I don't give a shit about. She doesn't want me to see it because it's messy, I don't care if its messy and understand that her tiny building at work can't hold all her shit. Yet we miss out on a more convenient and enjoyable option because she is acting on a presumption about what I'll think, despite me explicitly saying the opposite. When this sort of shit happens with girls I want to strangle a kitten. Fortunately I managed to get her to come to my apartment with a little encouragement.

ANYWAY, had a night of some pretty fantastic sex. Even before that though, at my place, I was starting to get the feeling that this girl is a keeper. The normal shy shit I've been putting up with since the beginning all but disappeared, taking a shower at my place, walking around in her underwear, being a little bold ("go wash your feet" she thought i was crazy when I said americans dont consider 'wash your feet' part of the nightly ritual), etc. Such a huge jump from the apprehension on sunday and I came out really impressed. The apartment thing is kinda an issue, but it'll pass with time. I'm kinda fucked in the head in that if a girl doesn't want me to see something about her, I wanna see it 10x more because I don't like insecurities interfering with my, or people I care about's, lives.

And this whole time I was expecting really bad sex with a girl who likely had the sexual experience of a 18 year old, but man I was wrong. Not the wildest, but easily the girl who knew her way around the bedroom the best. Suggesting various things, syncing her movement perfectly with mine, etc. And the bonus is I'm not left thinkin "well if she knows all this, she's probably fucked a ton of guys." And I had all but completely forgotten what it was like to sleep with someone you REALLY wanted to sleep with, rather than a maintanance fuck. The only problem was korean condoms and how sucky they are, and, errm, we had to go really really slow or it'd cause her pain. I don't really know, but I'm guessing both problems are related to the disparity between your average asian guy and your average white guy.

I don't have much else to say. Things are going great, I'm keeping my character-flaw/don't-be-insecure nitpicks in check and finally am enjoying those fantastic fake titties.

Lessons learned:
(1) With Korean (and probably can apply to other asians) girls, there is only "no" and "really, no" when it comes to getting intimate. The key is keeping it playful and not getting discouraged by the resistance. They are obligated to resist advances so as to not look slutty, but most of it is superficial. Just look for contradicting signs (advance/don't) to know its ok to push forward.

(2)When in any circumstance which is awkward or frustrating with a girl, which may be often, search for a way to spin it into something fun or amusing. The girl will be more comfortable with you and you'll both have more fun. For example, DG had stopped speaking English all-together, and wouldn't even try to use English if I didn't understand a Korean word. This was really getting to me, as I had already mentioned it to her, but instead of letting it get me mad, I decided to make a fun game out of it, and told her that if she spoke only English, I'd speak only Korean (of which I know significantly less than she knows of English) for the last 1hr of our date. She loved it and we both had a lot of fun because of it. I also used this attitude when we first slept together and many times since. There's a lot of confusion and uncertainty dealing with someone from a different culture, but instead of letting it be confusing and potentially awkward, I try to spin it into something fun. And as someone who sucks balls at building comfort with a girl, this attitude is gold.

Ultimately my guess at the breast thing was wrong. She is ridiculously ticklish all over and touching them triggers that. Is that a common thing with implants? Anyway, she doesn't want me touching them because it's uncomfortable for her physically, that's all. But when we're going at it hard it's open season and she actually enjoys it. I think a lot of it stems from the conservatism and shyness, not feeling completely open with her body and all that.

She still doesn't want me to see her apartment. I joke about it a lot but it's possible I'm towing the line of being annoying. We kinda jokingly agreed on Oct. 24 to see it but I think I'm gonna cancel that and tell her whenever she is ready. I challenge her a lot, and am wary to cross the line of making her always feel pressured, so I think I'll relent and let her show me when she's ready.

I really like her, but there's so much stuff I don't know about her, and she doesn't know about me, because of the language barrier. I'm not really sure how we will get past that. I'm worried we are gonna plateau big time. Unrelated, I had the weirdest realization earlier this week: she is almost a carbon copy of my ex girlfriend from college, only Asian. Real bubbly and outgoing (perfect to offset my complete lack of visual emotions) on the outside, but hiding a potent edgier/independent side underneath that isn't really concerned with other people. I don't really care about the outside bubblyness, though it's probably good for me to be around, but I really dig that confident, competent, strong will.

Footnote: condoms still fucking suck, and as a result, Koreans' almost complete lack of awareness and acceptance of birth control fucking sucks as well.
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:29 AM   #6800 (permalink)
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:54 AM   #6801 (permalink)
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Things went pretty well last night. She was 20 minutes late as it was cold as fuck and instead of walking from her place (9 blocks or so), she drove to a parkade closer to where we were meeting that she could walk through pedways etc. She called at 7 and said she'd be a few minutes late, I didn't much care as I was watching hockey and flirting with the waitress (she seemed to pick up on that when she arrived, as she made a couple comments about the waitress being weird or "different", when she was simply just being friendly). Conversation flowed really well, she's obviously intelligent and can keep up her end of the deal in that respect.

I found out a lot more about her background, she certainly wasn't shy talking about her marriage, divorce, and her subsequent re-entry in to the dating pool. She married at 21 to a guy 10 years older than her, and apparently after they were married the guy was totally "asexual." She claimed it was to the point where they had sex a couple times a year. When I asked why she stuck around, she said that she "really believes in marriage" and that you should work at it, which I actually agree with. She didn't mean that you HAVE to get married, but that if you do you shouldn't just cut and run if things aren't perfect. Fair enough.

She found out the guy was cheating on her as the mistress left a love note tucked in to their bed. That was the final nail, but she'd suspected shit for awhile. They tried counselling for a month, the guy denied it claiming they were just friends, but apparently told Charlene he was going to go on a trip with her, at which point she got out.

There was the usual physical flirting, as well as talk of sex etc., she again wasn't shy about admitting she'd been on a bit of a tear since her divorce. She laughingly said she'd never had a one night stand, because every time she's tried the guy ends up calling her and she ends up dating him for a few months accidentally. It seemed like that was a reference to whoever she was involved with currently. She didn't particularly mention anyone, however she had been texting a bit through the evening, and I snuck a bit of a look here and there and a couple were definitely back and forth with the guy, who's name I saw as well. I only saw a couple snippets, one from him saying something about "I'm not expecting an answer..." and one she was typing saying that "it's not that I'm mad..."

At one point she was talking about how she thought my brother and I were quite different (I don't agree really, I think we're damn near the same person personality wise), and when I asked how so she said that I was much more outgoing than him. I commented that my brother could be very outgoing and talkative outside of work, that he was kind of two different people. She disagreed, and said that she'd never see him asking her out after just meeting at a wedding as I did, and said that it was "ballsy" that I did. I laughed and said I didn't think it was ballsy, all I did was send an email, and the conversation moved on. Later she mentioned that we'd actually met a couple years before at my bro's place, to my surprise. I said I had no recollection of even the particular party she was talking about nor her, she said it wasn't surprising since I was apparently pretty involved in an intense foosball game.

Walking back to her car after we were chatting about Betty, since I guess Betty does some modelling on the side and there were huge banners with her face on them in the mall we were walking through (turns out she has daughters, not sons, 18 and 16, who both work at the trendy restobar that Chuck does, meaning they're smoking hot as well), and I inquired as to why the two of them flew solo to the wedding. Right away she said she was in "no position" with any guy to bring them to a wedding. So looks like the other guy isn't much competition, at least at first blush.

So I walked her back to her car, and she gave me a lift back to my place since it was in the opposite direction. We both said we had a lot of fun, I said we'd have to do it again sometime, she said that I had her info, I gave her a quick peck on the lips, wished her luck with her encounter with the rabid hippies today, and that was that. Good times, I hope it goes somewhere. I wasn't so sure about her personality, but one on one she was a lot of fun, I think she was just a bit overshadowed at the wedding by the very outgoing Betty.

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Old 10-09-2009, 09:46 AM   #6802 (permalink)
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Now that I have had one date with each of the women, here is what i think:

Winter- Looks wise, she has a smoking body. I dont care too much about her face, which is not ugly, but doesnt have features I like. Even though I am 6'1", I am still shorter than her.... She is 6'2". Our date was basic. Visited a couple of book stores, walked around a strip mall, played a game of giant chess (at the strip mall), got some Starbucks and when I took her back to her car, she wanted to talk more. So I ended up converting my car into the theatre and we watched a movie. She was VERY touchy-feely and tried for a kiss before she left. I denied her, played it off and said that there would be nothing to look forward to next time.... little does she know.

Evening- She is 5'1" and a little thick. She weighs 130, but still very cute. I think she has a much cuter face than Winter. I had dinner with her at Boston's. I had great conversation with her, I love her hair and her eyes and there is seriously something about her. I really dont know what it was, but I hung on everything she said and couldnt take my eyes off of her. I cant figure her out. From some of what she has said, she seems like she used to be a party girl, but she seems very reserved. I am going to have fun figuring her out.

I have another date with Winter tonight. (I found out she rushed it because she wouldnt have another chance for a date until next weekend). Probably going to play Pool or Shuffleboard, then get some cheesecake and come back to my place for a movie. I think she wants to stay the night. Anyways, here is a pic of Winter- I thought I would follow the Eomer black spot. Makes me laugh... EDIT- Nah, Face Hugger is better.
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Things went pretty well last night. She was 20 minutes late as it was cold as fuck and instead of walking from her place (9 blocks or so), she drove to a parkade closer to where we were meeting that she could walk through pedways etc. She called at 7 and said she'd be a few minutes late, I didn't much care as I was watching hockey and flirting with the waitress (she seemed to pick up on that when she arrived, as she made a couple comments about the waitress being weird or "different", when she was simply just being friendly). Conversation flowed really well, she's obviously intelligent and can keep up her end of the deal in that respect.

I found out a lot more about her background, she certainly wasn't shy talking about her marriage, divorce, and her subsequent re-entry in to the dating pool. She married at 21 to a guy 10 years older than her, and apparently after they were married the guy was totally "asexual." She claimed it was to the point where they had sex a couple times a year. When I asked why she stuck around, she said that she "really believes in marriage" and that you should work at it, which I actually agree with. She didn't mean that you HAVE to get married, but that if you do you shouldn't just cut and run if things aren't perfect. Fair enough.

She found out the guy was cheating on her as the mistress left a love note tucked in to their bed. That was the final nail, but she'd suspected shit for awhile. They tried counselling for a month, the guy denied it claiming they were just friends, but apparently told Charlene he was going to go on a trip with her, at which point she got out.

There was the usual physical flirting, as well as talk of sex etc., she again wasn't shy about admitting she'd been on a bit of a tear since her divorce. She laughingly said she'd never had a one night stand, because every time she's tried the guy ends up calling her and she ends up dating him for a few months accidentally. It seemed like that was a reference to whoever she was involved with currently. She didn't particularly mention anyone, however she had been texting a bit through the evening, and I snuck a bit of a look here and there and a couple were definitely back and forth with the guy, who's name I saw as well. I only saw a couple snippets, one from him saying something about "I'm not expecting an answer..." and one she was typing saying that "it's not that I'm mad..."

At one point she was talking about how she thought my brother and I were quite different (I don't agree really, I think we're damn near the same person personality wise), and when I asked how so she said that I was much more outgoing than him. I commented that my brother could be very outgoing and talkative outside of work, that he was kind of two different people. She disagreed, and said that she'd never see him asking her out after just meeting at a wedding as I did, and said that it was "ballsy" that I did. I laughed and said I didn't think it was ballsy, all I did was send an email, and the conversation moved on. Later she mentioned that we'd actually met a couple years before at my bro's place, to my surprise. I said I had no recollection of even the particular party she was talking about nor her, she said it wasn't surprising since I was apparently pretty involved in an intense foosball game.

Walking back to her car after we were chatting about Betty, since I guess Betty does some modelling on the side and there were huge banners with her face on them in the mall we were walking through (turns out she has daughters, not sons, 18 and 16, who both work at the trendy restobar that Chuck does, meaning they're smoking hot as well), and I inquired as to why the two of them flew solo to the wedding. Right away she said she was in "no position" with any guy to bring them to a wedding. So looks like the other guy isn't much competition, at least at first blush.

So I walked her back to her car, and she gave me a lift back to my place since it was in the opposite direction. We both said we had a lot of fun, I said we'd have to do it again sometime, she said that I had her info, I gave her a quick peck on the lips, wished her luck with her encounter with the rabid hippies today, and that was that. Good times, I hope it goes somewhere. I wasn't so sure about her personality, but one on one she was a lot of fun, I think she was just a bit overshadowed at the wedding by the very outgoing Betty.
Wait wait wait ... she was texting people while being out with you ? Im a pretty lax guy, I have no standards to speak of, I get along with everyone pretty much. But even I know .. that you dont pull shit like that when your out with someone. Tom leykis always had a great way for guys to deal with that. As soon as they start texting someone or they answer there cell phone while your on your date or whatnot .. you excuse yourself to the restroom and never come back. Now maybe its different for you, but thats still pretty bullshit she would text people while you two are supposedly having a conversation.
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I gotta agree, texting while on a date is low class. Next time she does it, just stop talking and wait for her to finish. That shit is impolite and she needs to know it.
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turns out she has daughters, not sons, 18 and 16, who both work at the trendy restobar that Chuck does
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I denied her, played it off and said that there would be nothing to look forward to next time.... little does she know.
lol, honestly, you need to get over that phobia. It's FUCKED UP.

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I gotta agree, texting while on a date is low class. Next time she does it, just stop talking and wait for her to finish. That shit is impolite and she needs to know it.
Oh I agree with you. When we were at the pub she didn't check her phone once in the nearly two hours we were there, we had each other's full attention (I took a call from one of my guys making a service call). However when we went to the concert venue, expecting the headliner to be on around 10ish, there was an opening act playing (Elias I think), and while they were pretty good neither of us knew who they were, so we alternated between yelling in each other's ear, watching the show silently, and checking our phones periodically to respond to texts, check the Oiler's game, that kind of thing. Neither of us were busting them out mid conversation, and considering how difficult it can be to have one while watching a concert I didn't much mind as I was doing the same.

It's not like she was barely involved in the conversation, tapping away on her phone while going "uh-huh" and I talked to myself.

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Betty, who I'm not dating, has the daughters. I thought it was kind of funny and related it, because yes, hilarity could very much ensue with such a situation. I almost feel cheated I went for Charlene instead! When I asked why she hadn't had kids in 10 years of marriage, her response was "it's hard to have kids when you only fuck a couple times a year."

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I almost feel cheated I went for Charlene instead!
This isn't about you Eomer. This is about us, your choice means we missed out on the potential for some hilarious shit.
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Yeah texting while out on a first date is pretty unacceptable in my eyes too and wouldn't be acceptable until much, MUCH later and even then, only a quick one here and there in cases where it may be needed. If a girl is out with me...she's out with ME, not me and someone on her phone as well.

I would have done the same thing Shanter said, just stopped talking and waited for her to get done, I've done it multiple times and it gets the point across pretty damn quickly.

Edit--I guess in that circumstance it would't be so bad, in your original post you made it sound like she was sending off texts throughout the whole night.

And I agree with Brekk, you need to think of us more when you make your decisions and stop being selfish and only thinking of yourself.
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