Have you ever seen a ghost?

[CabbitCabbit]

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

No, it didn't, unless it was on the radio, and a local radio station played it every morning, and you had an alarm feature set on it.

You did not have a CD-only player that played Led Zeppelin without a CD in it.

Yeah, my bad, forgot you were there listening to whole lotta love with me every morning at 6am.

[Aria]

Had a few experiences, not really sure what they could've been. I'll be the first to admit I'm amazed by ghosts, so it could be my imagination.

My first house was a duplex and I truly thought it was haunted, this was confirmed later by my father (my mother didn't really talk about it). In my room upstairs I woke up a few times to a guy talking in the corner of my room. I would always freeze up and pretend I was asleep. On those occasions I never slept at all, just frozen in fear all night. It's really tough to describe it, he used to say things to me that I don't remember now, and I may have seen him once or twice. I was young, so again could be my imagination. Also in this house my father was on the couch and felt the cushion by his feet depress inwards as if someone fat was sitting in it but no one was there. We found out later that night a family member had died.

The biggest thing that happened to me was in my next house, and I was actually around 13 at the time. It was like 2 AM so I went to take a piss outside my bedroom. Our balcony overlooked the living room and the bathroom was up top too. As I was walking to the bathroom I looked down and saw a woman in a wedding dress on the couch crying her eyes out. It was very loud to me and definitely not my mother. I bolted into the bathroom and was in there for like an hour contemplating my next move. I was literally scared shitless and frozen. I finally ran into my bedroom and turned on all the lights and tv, totally scared. I never had an explanation for it, but still to this day that event freaks me out.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

I never meant to imply that. I was pointing out that, if ghosts existed, there should be a good quantity of them. Yet, only tricksters and rubes ever claim to see them, and there's no compelling video evidence of them.

There is _zero_ proof of ghosts, anywhere. No one here has ever seen one.

You are 100% ignorant of the mechanism in which a ghost "could" exist to make that judgment. Nor are you qualified to make the judgment what everyone has ever experienced. Baseless beliefs are equally stupid whether regardless if they are "debunking" something or not. All manner of experiences cant be objectively qualified or "proven" it doesn't mean they dont exist. The certainty that ghosts exists is just as moronic as certainty they dont.

[Bristlebane]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

You are 100% ignorant of the mechanism in which a ghost "could" exist to make that judgment. Nor are you qualified to make the judgment what everyone has ever experienced. Baseless beliefs are equally stupid whether regardless if they are "debunking" something or not. All manner of experiences cant be objectively qualified or "proven" it doesn't mean they dont exist. The certainty that ghosts exists is just as moronic as certainty they dont.

Yeah, I'm 100 percent ignorant of "mechanisms" that don't exist. There is no inkling of proof of ghosts, goblins, C.H.U.D.s, leprechauns, zombies, vampires, or werewolves, anywhere. None. It's all suggestion.

The FoH screenshots forum is just blessed to have so many rare, magickal people tuned in to the spirit world. This must be a veritable HUB of the ghost-sensitive.

[Bristlebane]

Originally Posted by CabbitCabbit

Yeah, my bad, forgot you were there listening to whole lotta love with me every morning at 6am.

Not only do ghosts exist, they can magically stream music to electronic music players! Holy shit.

[Malice]

Originally Posted by Vehn

well i was walking around my spooky basement today and took a picture of this ghost. Fucking hell is this creepy or what

What the fuck, dude.

Not cool.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Yeah, I'm 100 percent ignorant of "mechanisms" that don't exist. There is no inkling of proof of ghosts, goblins, C.H.U.D.s, leprechauns, zombies, vampires, or werewolves, anywhere. None. It's all suggestion.

The FoH screenshots forum is just blessed to have so many rare, magickal people tuned in to the spirit world. This must be a veritable HUB of the ghost-sensitive.

You dont seem to comprehend what i said so ill explain it. You attempt to "logically" justify your BELIEF that ghosts dont exist. Its based on your asshole just like the belief they do. Its equally stupid to invest a "belief" in either position. A rational and logical position is to say "i dont know". Not offer pseudo logic to justify your own personal beliefs. In essence stop trying to claim your own unjustified and ignorant opinions are based on the grounds of logic. Because they arent.

[CabbitCabbit]

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Not only do ghosts exist, they can magically stream music to electronic music players! Holy shit.

Congratulations on reading my entire post

It wasn't a "ghost" because they don't exist, but for three days straight I would wake up to "You need coolin', Baby I'm not foolin" wander over, slam my fist on the stop button, check the player to see if anything was in it, and then go back to bed. Finally I just unplugged the CD player.

tough shit, it happened, and I sure as shit can't explain it, but I doubt it was the vengeful spirit of a little girl or some guy who hanged himself.

[TheCutlery]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

You dont seem to comprehend what i said so ill explain it. You attempt to "logically" justify your BELIEF that ghosts dont exist. Its based on your asshole just like the belief they do. Its equally stupid to invest a "belief" in either position. A rational and logical position is to say "i dont know". Not offer pseudo logic to justify your own personal beliefs. In essence stop trying to claim your own unjustified and ignorant opinions are based on the grounds of logic. Because they arent.

You don't have to "Believe" that something doesn't exist.

It either does, or it doesn't. Show me a ghost. Can't? Then I don't have to believe they don't exist, I can sit here and KNOW they don't exist because you can not prove it.

Contrarily, you can "Believe" that something DOES exist. Easter bunny, santa claus, ghosts, god, whatever. You can't prove they do, yet you want to think they do. You're forced to "Believe" that they do, in the absence of proof. That's the problem with logic. You can't apply it to bullshit "Beliefs." Logic dictates that there is no such thing as ghosts. You die, it's done. Sorry, that's just the way it is. There is exactly zero evidence to suggest any other theory, therefore you can logically deduce that the only explanation left must be the conclusion.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by TheCutlery

You don't have to "Believe" that something doesn't exist.

It either does, or it doesn't. Show me a ghost. Can't? Then I don't have to believe they don't exist, I can sit here and KNOW they don't exist because you can not prove it.

Contrarily, you can "Believe" that something DOES exist. Easter bunny, santa claus, ghosts, god, whatever. You can't prove they do, yet you want to think they do. You're forced to "Believe" that they do, in the absence of proof. That's the problem with logic. You can't apply it to bullshit "Beliefs." Logic dictates that there is no such thing as ghosts. You die, it's done. Sorry, that's just the way it is. There is exactly zero evidence to suggest any other theory, therefore you can logically deduce that the only explanation left must be the conclusion.

Zero evidence to suggest? I suppose you dont consider personal experiences relating to the subject for the history of mankind to qualify as evidence?

You dont seem to have a good a good grasp on what "logic" is. And id have to say bullshit in that every concept you accept as existing fits the criteria of first hand experience. Logic dictates no beliefs one way or the other concerning ghosts or an afterlife. An opinion either way is a belief based on nothing (assuming you have no experience of evidence).

I mean one could say the billions of first hand accounts of supernatural experience constitutes evidence of something. What that is who knows.

[Bobleclair]

1% of the world population is affected by shizophrenia and even more are affected by short terms hallucinations, I am sure a good amount of them saw some "ghosts".... are they the evidences you were talking about?... .



Something i find funny with peoples believing in unprovable myths is they will usually ask non believer to prove it doesn't exist, wich make no sense because when you claim something exist it is your job to bring proofs, not others to prove you it is false.
"hey guys i invented the cure for cancer and aids, give me a nobel price, or prove me i am wrong without asking me to prove you i am right".

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Bobleclair

1% of the world population is affected by shizophrenia and even more are affected by short terms hallucinations, I am sure a good amount of them saw some "ghosts".... are they the evidences you were talking about?... .



Something i find funny with peoples believing in unprovable myths is they will usually ask non believer to prove it doesn't exist, wich make no sense because when you claim something exist it is your job to bring proofs, not others to prove you it is false.
"hey guys i invented the cure for cancer and aids, give me a nobel price, or prove me i am wrong without asking me to prove you i am right".

So you believe that all possible experiences are things that can be "proven" to others? I tend to withhold judgment on any subject till i have something to support a position. Investing in a belief either way is equally stupid if you have 0 evidence. To say ghosts dont exist! Its not the same thing as saying i haven't seen any evidence nor had any experience to support that they do.

Besides when you have a belief that cannot be challenged by any evidence it generally is a good sign your a moron.

[Astrocreep]

people in roman times thought an eclipse was a giant monster that ate the moon and would soon devour everyone in existance. people didnt know what the fuck a lunar eclipse was cuz a scientist/scholar hadnt discovered it yet, those people werent crazy, just ignorant. Say, these things that people claim to be ghosts is some yet unknown scientific phenomena can you at least hold off calling everyone who sees one a nutjob just cuz they havent taken a 1040p rez image of it yet?

[TheCutlery]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

Zero evidence to suggest? I suppose you dont consider personal experiences relating to the subject for the history of mankind to qualify as evidence?

Anecdotal evidence is anything but. There's a reason that forensics have supplanted the first person witness in criminal trials. You can say you saw anything you want...doesn't mean you did.

Produce a ghost in the laboratory. Can't? Well, then I guess you're up shit creek aren't you? You know what science calls things that can't be reproduced? FUCKING GARBAGE.

There's a difference between logic and trying to grasp for straws to argue that what you've seen is real. Logically, you didn't see a ghost. You saw some lighting tricks, some swamp gas, a weather balloon, whatever. You didn't see a ghost because you can't tell said ghost to "Do it again" and have someone else see it.

Logic is based upon the scientific method. Create a theory (Ghosts exist), test that theory (I saw a ghost!), Reproduce the test (No you didn't), refine your theory, go back to step one. If you're not using that method, well, then you've got some sad state of affairs with your logic.

[Zitar]

It's funny to me that anyone that claims to have seen the loch ness monster, aliens, big foot, ect. are all instantly mocked, but some how if you claim to see ghosts a decent amount of people will buy it.

I am always amazed when I turn on the TV and I see John Edwards, Sylvia Brown, or the chick that the shitty NBC show with the fat Arquette is based on and people are buying that shit. Hell I don't understand how networks get away with helping promote a scam artist. I guess it's time to call up NBC and pitch my show based on be being a wealthy Nigerian business man with a large amount of gold that I can't access myself atm.

This week the local NBC news here in Phoenix ran a story on a local high school kid who can talk to ghosts in some short of retarded cross promotion with their ghost show. They actually slobbed this kids knob through the whole story about how gifted he is and even give him a plug for some speaking engagement so he can scam some tards. So sad.