The Paranormal Thread

[Draegan]

YouTube - Ghost caught on surveillance camera

[Torrid]

I liked that ghost hunters show too, but I got a bit turned off when they started acting more like a fucking reality TV show more than an investigation. Fuck reality TV.

It's also hard to take them seriously when they have professional wrestlers joining investigations.

This sort of thing just isn't taken seriously by real scientists, because scientists have this ego problem and refuse to touch subjects that draw ridicule. Therefore we don't get any quality studies done on the matter.

I also think that people who make blanket statements like "it's all bullshit" are just as bad as the hardcore believers.

[Schatze]

My one paranormal experience is pretty retarded. But I still have no explanation.

So I wake up, go pour some cereal in a bowl, spill some, put it back, go grab my cigs and go to the fridge to get milk. I place the milk on the table, take a cig out, and place the box on the table. I spark up, and looking straight ahead, I see a bunch of cereal flip up in the air, I wasn't touching the table, didn't bump it, it just spontaneously flipped up into the air. Now I'd write it off as some wierd brain fart, but some of the cereal actually landed on the cig pack and I could see it vibrating from the crash landing it had taken. Order of events was clear, unambiguous. I didn't trust that I saw the spilt cereal flip up into the air, but there it was, on top of the cig pack which should not have happened. I left that pack there for the rest of the day, just to come back and check on it. Yeah, no idea for the explanation of that. I'd rate ghost as the last possible chance, with my hallucinating much higher. Yet hey, I'm damned sure of the sequence of events and the physical evidence seems to preclude it.

Although apparently my life was saved at least twice by a ghost. Had apnea as a baby, got sent home from the hospital after it stopped recurring. Except it did recur. Twice. Each time, my mom claims, she heard a female voice saying something along the lines of " is in trouble, wake up " again and again. When she would wake and check on me, I'd be blue and not breathing, and she'd have to manually resucitate me. This only occurred when I actually was apnic. If she hadn't caught me, I'd be dead. I don't believe in the paranormal, but there you go.

edit: saw a UFO once. Up north, moved across the sky quickly. Except periodically, every few seconds, it would flash EXTREMELY brightly. Like someone 40 feet away shining a maglite into your eyes. There were no running lights. We tried to use binocs to trace it, but we couldn't find it in visual range even when we caught it during one of the flashes. We eventually concluded it was a spinning satellite that was high enough to still be catching the sunlight. That it was in precisely the right place, and with the precise angle, that it would spin a bright reflection of the sun's light across our position once every x seconds. Mammoth coincidence, but there you go. No flight paths, it wasn't a small craft, and if it had been close it would have been visible by binocs let alone by running lights.

[Schatze]

Originally Posted by Draegan

YouTube - Ghost caught on surveillance camera

Jesus I'm dying.

[Brossann]

Originally Posted by Schatze

Jesus I'm dying.

HAHAHAHA at first i was thinking "wtf does he mean by 'Jesus im dying'"? that was so awesome hahaha

[Schatze]

It just gets better when you notice the short-shorts and hooker boots.

[BurnemWizfyre]

Right around the time i was 15-16 i had a uncle who was dying of AIDS and moved to a hospice home here in Corpus Christi just down the road from spohn hospital. Never knowing my uncle, which was odd for my family since i can honestly say i knew every single member of my family except him.

I lived in Ingleside, 20-40 minute drive (40 for my slow ass driving father) so it wasnt like we went and visited him all the time. Once a week my father would pick up my grandparents and we would visit him on saturday like clockwork. Every week was pretty much the same, we entered the hospice home through the back door, say hello to people on our way up to my uncles room. There was this one man, James was his name. My grandfather being a former something or another preacher/priest/rabii i dont know what to be honest but back to the story.

James had no family anywhere close, never once recieved a visitor in well over 4 years from what we were told. My grandfather befriended the man, so every week we would visit with this man as well though usually for 15 minutes tops. Well as usual one saturday morning we entered in through the back door walked into the living room and james was sitting on the couch watching tv. We set there with james for at least 5, maybe 10 but to be honest i dint pay attention cause it dint matter. As normal after visiting with james a few minutes we proceeded up stairs and visited with my uncle for 5-6hrs. On our way out we stopped by james's room to tell him we were leaving and that we would see him again next week. As to our surprise we could not find james around the house anywhere, so on our way out my grandfather told one of the nurses to tell james we were sorry we missed him on our way out and that we will see him again next saturday.

This is where things began to freak me the hell out and confused the shit out of me for quite some time. The nurse calmly told my grandfather that james had passed away on wednesday and that he had died in his sleep on the couch in the living room. Much to his surprise (and he wasnt alone on this one) he told the nurse that couldnt be, she must be mistaken and that she was refering to a different james or someone else. My grandfather thought this woman was playing a joke on our family and was getting upset with the woman, and actually called the woman a liar and said she wasnt funny. It was odd listening to my grandfather talk to the woman this way as he was always polite and respectfull to anyone he met. This woman had to show my grandfather the obituary from the newspaper to prove that he had died.

Many a time the events has passed through my mind, thinking maybe we dint talk to him, maybe it was just so routine after so many months of visiting that we just imagined it. As much as id like to explain it, be able to explain it, i cant account for the fact that me, my father, my grandfather and my grandmother all remember the exact same conversation that took place that morning. If i had been alone, i would have dismissed it completely and never thought twice about it. However with 3 other people experiencing the same shit as me, i categorize it into the i dont know what the fuck happened.

[Rune]

In my opinion for a scientist to categorically deny the existence of things that they cannot explain satisfactorily, or to cast disbelief upon the field, is to deny the precepts of science herself. We have not reached the epoch of our understanding of the physics of this world, and as such there will always be events that seem inexplicable which we haven't discovered the root causes of, and in the future will be looked back very similar to the way in which we now regard earthquakes, tsunamis and lunar eclipses.

[Caliane]

Originally Posted by Torrid

I liked that ghost hunters show too, but I got a bit turned off when they started acting more like a fucking reality TV show more than an investigation. Fuck reality TV.

It's also hard to take them seriously when they have professional wrestlers joining investigations.

This sort of thing just isn't taken seriously by real scientists, because scientists have this ego problem and refuse to touch subjects that draw ridicule. Therefore we don't get any quality studies done on the matter.

I also think that people who make blanket statements like "it's all bullshit" are just as bad as the hardcore believers.

I would really like to see a physicist on a show like that. It is an entertaining show. There have been several episodes with shadowpeople and moving objects. Explain it.

The laws of physics are laws. Even if ghosts exist they need to adhere to them. So if wind didnt move the object, try to explain how a ghost could? it would need possibly mass, a force, etc. And these things would be measurable. If they cant come up with plausible explainations of how any of these are possible, the existance would have to be requestioned.

[Brossann]

I had a strange experience once or twice but this one is the most recent,
Im usually just sitting in my room on my free time playing games or surfing the web (this was back when i still lived at home) it was a little early for my mom to come home and im just sitting there and i hear the front door slam. I know the sound of that door being closed because its really loud and is extremely solid sounding like a really heavy door. I sat there for a few min. bc my mom usually came into my room to see what was up but she never came so i head out into the kitchen which is where she usually was right when she gets home. but nobody was in the house. I called my mom and asked if she had come home and then left but she was still at work. I know i heard my front door slam. I dont know if maybe it was something weird or some psycho fuck was in my house that day. and my door latches easily, i know i closed the door because it had been closed all day and i never went outside. not the greatest story but it was quite odd.

[Zakas]

I edit for a local news station, and there was lightning a few weeks ago, and we had a camera on a tripod setup looking at it near the airport, and then there was this tiny light, it comes closer, and hovers, then goes away again,

I chalked it up to a plane, but it never landed, heh. too bad that tape is probably blacked by now

[chu]

Originally Posted by Torrid

I liked that ghost hunters show too, but I got a bit turned off when they started acting more like a fucking reality TV show more than an investigation. Fuck reality TV.

It's also hard to take them seriously when they have professional wrestlers joining investigations.

This sort of thing just isn't taken seriously by real scientists, because scientists have this ego problem and refuse to touch subjects that draw ridicule. Therefore we don't get any quality studies done on the matter.

I also think that people who make blanket statements like "it's all bullshit" are just as bad as the hardcore believers.

Uhm, science is rarely about negative results and that's all these 'quality studies' would result in.

"Hey, I just published my 8th ITS NOT A REAL GHOST paper"

[Dabamf]

Originally Posted by Torrid

I also think that people who make blanket statements like "it's all bullshit" are just as bad as the hardcore believers.

It IS all bullshit until proven otherwise. That is correct science when evaluating a positive claim.

[Torrid]

No, real science never assumes anything. Assuming it's all bullshit is well, assuming. What you should be saying is that it is MOST LIKELY all bullshit.

Between proven true and proven false is inconclusive. This subject is just attacked as nonsense because of cultural bias, especially because it tries to suggest an afterlife. (however there are theories that don't require that leap as well)

I love science and all, but sometimes I get annoyed by the ego and hubris. Certain topics (not just ghosts) are labeled nonsense with nearly zero effort put forth to debunk them. If one case is proven to be a hoax, then they label every other case a hoax by association. That is not science.

[AngryGerbil]

Originally Posted by Torrid

I love science and all

or not