MMO Hi Res Screen Shots

[Adamar Hammerfell]

Originally Posted by Blumpster

Are you kidding me? Have you even played either game? Trees in Vanguard are probably one of the best features. They are VERY realistic when you turn up the graphics on a good machine. It's almost as if every leaf is its own entity, unlike the LOTRO trees which is akin to a piece of paper with leaves painted on it.

I hate to break it to you, but Vanguard's trees are made using very similar tech. Stand next to a tree in Vanguard, and turn around in a circle. The tree will turn with you... magic perhaps? LOTRO's trees do not do this.

Originally Posted by Blumpster

Look at this screenshot.

The problem with comparing those screenshots you posted is the VG ones are of extremely low quality. That resolution is what, 1024x768? Just by that you figure they were taken with a pretty lame computer.

The first Vanguard screenshot in this thread is 1680 x 1050.

Originally Posted by Blumpster

If you even think for one second that LoTRO has more detailed graphics you're extremely confused. They have very nice lighting effects, particularly bloom (turn this off and the game looks quite pathetic).

I'll be happy to show screenshots with bloom on and off. It makes very little difference in terms of beauty. In fact, I prefer to keep it quite low, 0.5 instead of the max value of 2.0.

Originally Posted by Blumpster

Vanguard takes pretty crappy screenshots to begin with, for whatever reason they always turn out like shit. I think once you're in the game it's one of the most beautiful worlds that's been created in a video game. I'm not dogging LoTRO here, I really do like this game and I think the graphics are just fine, but they are NOT better than Vanguards. Oh, and also, I quit playing Vanguard to play LoTRO, before you call me a VG fanboy.

This is of course an argument of opinion, there's no definite "right or wrong" when it comes to liking one set of graphics or the other, and as I previously said all that matters is that the majority of people do like it. LoTRO accomplishes that apparently, even with a sub-par set of tools compared to Vanguard.

Show us a screenshot then, proving how beautiful Vanguard is. I played the game for close to a year, and one thing Vanguard does not have is good graphics. What it does have is a horribly inefficient engine, shoddy texture work, and horrendous animations.

[xregg]

Vanguard

[Twobit Whore]

Is it just me, or do volumetric clouds in VG look .. bad?

I mean, they don't mesh with the sky at all. Looks like someone just tossed some cotton balls in the air.

[xregg]

vanguard

[Blumpster]

Originally Posted by Adamar Hammerfell

Lots of stuff owning me

I have better things to do...like, look at other threads!!! I didn't know the first screenshot was that high resolution for some reason, I didn't even bother to take a second look.

After playing Vanguard and then going to LoTRO I just found the LoTRO graphics lacking something. Maybe I just like the Vanguard styling more, who the fuck knows, but when I played Vanguard the world felt alive and believable. The interaction between the models and the world...not so much. When I play Lord of the Rings it feels like I'm playing a painting, which isn't bad, but it's not the same. I was using the trees as an example because when I look at trees in LoTRO they seem like a painting. They're pretty, but not believable. In those screenshots just posted, the one with the guy standing in front of the torch and all the pines in the background, it looks likes shit, but I've been in that very spot and when the trees are blowing around I think it looks fucking awesome.

[Adamar Hammerfell]

Originally Posted by Blumpster

I have better things to do...like, look at other threads!!! I didn't know the first screenshot was that high resolution for some reason, I didn't even bother to take a second look.

After playing Vanguard and then going to LoTRO I just found the LoTRO graphics lacking something. Maybe I just like the Vanguard styling more, who the fuck knows, but when I played Vanguard the world felt alive and believable. The interaction between the models and the world...not so much. When I play Lord of the Rings it feels like I'm playing a painting, which isn't bad, but it's not the same. I was using the trees as an example because when I look at trees in LoTRO they seem like a painting. They're pretty, but not believable. In those screenshots just posted, the one with the guy standing in front of the torch and all the pines in the background, it looks likes shit, but I've been in that very spot and when the trees are blowing around I think it looks fucking awesome.

To each their own I suppose. I've been to that spot, with the torch and pines, in Halgarad... I'm sorry but those trees are some of the worst I have ever seen. To me, Vanguard looks like EQ 1.5.

[Pinchandroll]

Is it just me, or do volumetric clouds in VG look .. bad?

Just you, I believe. Most people tend to love VG clouds, myself included. When I'm running across a continent and I see the trees swaying and the clouds moving slowly across the sky, it's the closest I've come to realism in an MMO yet.

[Twobit Whore]

Oh, I think the clouds themselve are fine.. and moving clouds have been around since EQ in 1999, but they just don't blend with the rest of the sky. That orc one for instance.

They look pretty good in the elf shot, but the orc shot just doesn't sit right with me.

I think they are just too low to the ground. The normal sky backdrop gives the illusion of being high, where clouds normally are. The volumetric ones all seem to be just a few hundred feet off the ground.

I assume this is a limitation of the chunk design.

[xregg]

Do me a favor and post your screenshots if ya wanna compare. If ya wanna argue Vanguard graphics against other games go to one of the many threads in the main section that you guys have shitted up. Thanks

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by xregg

Do me a favor and post your screenshots if ya wanna compare. If ya wanna argue Vanguard graphics against other games go to one of the many threads in the main section that you guys have shitted up. Thanks

I agree, don't post here unless you also post HIRes SS's of MMOs.

If you want, Xregg I can delete any posts in this thread that don't have any SS's of MMOs.

Shit, that means I should dig one up.

[scear]

Clouds


Character Models



No Screenshot can account for seeing these in-motion. Too bad you need such good hardware to really appreciate it.

[xregg]

Bah Tuco you know i dont mean that I just dont wanna see 10 pages of back and forth about how vanguard sucks or how it doesnt suck.

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by xregg

Bah Tuco you know i dont mean that I just dont wanna see 10 pages of back and forth about how vanguard sucks or how it doesnt suck.

Hehe, ok. I wouldn't mind doing it. Just say the word.

[Blumpster]

From Bertoxxulous server, circa winter '01, '02. Me (Johnnyx) training dragons in WW! I did die, BTW, because I didn't want to train AFKers at ToV, and another of the old guild with their epics.

[scear]