pic of willie's drug "stash" ..kicker: the penalty

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by RiskyChris

Let me play the Devil's Advocate. Anyone who wastes his days away smoking is effectively passing up an opportunity to produce something socially redeeming (getting a medical degree, pursuing research, etc.

That's a good reason to outlaw MMORPG's too. I'm sure there are plenty of testimonials out there from concerned middle american parents who wasted two semesters worth of tuition on little Jimmy who now works part time at Wendy's and lives in the basement farming consumables for Naxx raids.

[Makata]

Originally Posted by RiskyChris

You fucking retard. Do you understand the concept of outliers? I didn't say smoking pot invalidates your ability to be productive at all.

Originally Posted by RiskyChris

Anyone who wastes his days away smoking is effectively passing up an opportunity to produce something socially redeeming

All those drugs you're taking is really affecting your memory.

Originally Posted by Nikkohung You

legalize it for everyone, or punish everyone equally.

Definately should be. Alcohol and tobacco each kill so many magnitudes more people every year and are both legal (both also happen to have serious footholds in politics .. coincidence?). I cannot believe they can't look at the fact that not one person in the history of humankind has ever overdosed or died as a direct result of marijuana and not realize while it can be used innapriately, so can thousands of other household items, all of which are not only far more dangerous, but completely legal.

[dak]

You people will argue over anything.

Buying pot helped pay for the 9-11 attacks

So does going to the bank, supermarket and gas station.

In fact anything you pay taxes on contributed to the training of the people who carried out 9-11. Seeing how you don't pay taxes on pot it probably had less of an impact than buying a hamburger at McDonalds.

[Kolle]

Virtually no american dies from pot each year. Over 400k die from tobacco and over 80k from alcohol. This is absolute proof that the laws and stigma against pot is just that, a baseless stigma. People in power decided it was bad and then all the idiot sheep of america follow along. Meanwhile they continue letting 2 extremely harmful drugs to remain legal.

Almost no one dies from pot. The only reason I say "almost no one" is because some smartass will swear to Zeus that he knows a guy who knows a kid that smoked pot and then jumped off a roof. Just for information sake here's some things that kill far, far more people each year in the usa:

~3k Medical/Surgery complications
~4k drowning
~12k poisoned
~13k falling
~43k vehicles


One other thing about this debate that is annoying as hell is how people claim pot to be a 'gateway drug'. That's such bullshit. How much are you willing to bet that 100% of hard drug users started with tobacco/alcohol before pot and harder drugs? I would. There's your two gateway drugs and they are legal. People arguing against drugs love to ignore that simple fact. Apparently Tobacco and Alcohol don't count even though they kill far more americans each year than all illegal drugs combined. And before another smartass points out that less people die from illegal drugs because they are illegal let me give a reminder that you can buy any drug you want in nearly every part of the country. It's available. People don't decide against doing crack because it's Illegal.

Having drugs be illegal doesn't prevent the abuse of them. The vast majority of people who choose to not do any drug is because of education. More likely than not if a person is educated properly on drugs they will choose not to do them. If they want to do them anyway then they will do so whether or not it's illegal. It is not hard to buy illegal drugs.

The only thing accomplished by making drugs illegal is wasted resources spent fighting them (and lives) and we make street thugs/drug lords filthy rich. Gangs/suppliers/etc fight over all this shit so drugs being illegal creates violent crime where there would have been none. The list goes on and on about how drugs being illegal hurts the country, but there is no such list for how it helps.

[Dabamf]

So I guess this is the thread someone told me about where I can argue any point I want without having it related to the rest of the posts in any fashion?

If so, fuck welfare.

[Diwali]

Wow that's gay as fuck. Willie Nelson should be in jail right now but because he's famous he gets off. Any normal person would be facing some crazy penalties. I hate potheads.

[Hardcore Cracka]

let me play devil's advocate



shut up shut up shut up

[vurt]

You know how you have to pay extra if your luggage is over a certain weight? Fat people should have to pay extra if they're too heavy.

What do you guys think?

[gn0me]

I agree. I'm seriously tired of all these fatties.

[Sithro]

This happened about 40 minutes away from my house. Everyone here thought it was hillarious.

[Sithro]

Originally Posted by Shutup

Definitely, with that much bud he should have definitely got taken in. Friend of mine (who's mom is running for sheriff right now) was just busted for having a pound and he's looking at a little jail time even for a first time offender. Fuck celebs

What the hell? You live in the same town as me...

Ah well. We were talking about your friend a few days ago. Many people think it was a set up.

[Ikertxus]

I smoke, drink, used to hit on pot, take mdma/ecstasy occasionally on a wild night and snort coke in my house on weekends (gasp!)

As a doctor people freak out when they know about my habits and say: "but dude, you should know better, those things keeeel people all around!", they only refer to the illegal drugs I mentioned, but having some basic concept of medicine let me tell you (as has been mentioned previously on this thread) that stuff is peanuts compared to alcohol and tobacco.

People should stop shitting their pants when talking about illegal drugs, I do not condone the use of them, but drugs are all over the place, if you don't see them it's because you don't want to.

As for the original story, I just feel bad for anyone caught with stuff on them, I think laws are way too harsh on the drug matter given the potential damage they inflinge, and specially when the moste lethal ones are legal.

[Sithro]

Originally Posted by gn0me

I agree. I'm seriously tired of all these fatties.

Good going on hating most of the USA. :P

[Kraks]

Originally Posted by Eomer

I can guarantee you that if the "band" was a indie group composed of 4 or 5 mid 20 year old white nobodies, their asses would be in jail and they'd be charged with possession with intent to traffic, and all that. They'd probably just lynch them if it was a 5 man black hip hop group.

But because it's Willie Nelson (or any one else "famous") they walk away. Perfect example of why drug prohibition is just fucking retarded.

Actually, Snoop Dogg got arrested in Lake Charles years back for possession of marijuana and he too was just cited.

[Makata]

Originally Posted by Ikertxus

but drugs are all over the place, if you don't see them it's because you don't want to.

This was one of the strangest parts of my adolesence. Everywhere I turn was some reference to drugs either from commercials, movies, friends, etc but I never once came across any avenue to acquire them. I dunno, maybe I was sheltered (probably was) and I never really tried to find them, but to the best of my knowledge I never walked by, talked to, or even saw a drug dealer or even fucking drugs themselves until I was 19 in a friend of a friend's basement where they were smoking a bong. Since then .. nothing. No ecstacy, weed, shrooms, acid, cocaine, anything. I barely know the difference between them to be honest.