Culture of Fear

[Soriak]

Hyarth posted the link in the 'jesus camp' thread on the movie forum, but I think it deserves its own thread:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

Mutiny as passengers refuse to fly until Asians are removed
Passengers refuse to allow holiday jet to take off until two Asian men are thrown off plane

British holidaymakers staged an unprecedented mutiny - refusing to allow their flight to take off until two men they feared were terrorists were forcibly removed.

The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.

Passengers told cabin crew they feared for their safety and demanded police action. Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am. Others waiting for Flight ZB 613 in the departure lounge refused to board it.

The incident fuels the row over airport security following the arrest of more than 20 people allegedly planning the suicide-bombing of transatlantic jets from the UK to America. It comes amid growing demands for passenger-profiling and selective security checks.

It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'.

The passenger revolt came as Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary was accused of using the terror crisis to make money. Government sources say he boasted to an official at the Transport Department: "Every time I appear on TV, I get a spike in sales."

The Tories said the Government's failure to reassure travellers had led the Malaga passengers to 'behave irrationally' and 'hand a victory to terrorists'.

Websites used by pilots and cabin crew were yesterday reporting further incidents. In one, two British women with young children on another flight from Spain complained about flying with a bearded Muslim even though he had been security-checked twice before boarding.

The trouble in Malaga flared last Wednesday as two British citizens in their 20s waited in the departure lounge to board the pre-dawn flight and were heard talking what passengers took to be Arabic. Worries spread after a female passenger said she had heard something that alarmed her.

Passengers noticed that, despite the heat, the pair were wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers and were regularly checking their watches.

Initially, six passengers refused to board the flight. On board the aircraft, word reached one family. To the astonishment of cabin crew, they stood up and walked off, followed quickly by others.

The Monarch pilot - a highly experienced captain - accompanied by armed Civil Guard police and airport security staff, approached the two men and took their passports.

Half an hour later, police returned and escorted the two Asian passengers off the jet.

'There was no fuss or panic'

Soon afterwards, the aircraft was cleared while police did a thorough security sweep. Nothing was found and the plane took off - three hours late and without the two men on board.

Monarch arranged for them to spend the rest of the night in an airport hotel and flew them back to Manchester later on Wednesday.

College lecturer Jo Schofield, her husband Heath and daughters Emily, 15, and Isabel, 12, were caught up in the passenger mutiny.

Mrs Schofield, 38, said: "The plane was not yet full and it became apparent that people were refusing to board. In the gate waiting area, people had been talking about these two, who looked really suspicious with their heavy clothing, scruffy, rough, appearance and long hair.

"Some of the older children, who had seen the terror alert on television, were starting to mutter things like, 'Those two look like they're bombers.'

"Then a family stood up and walked off the aircraft. They were joined by others, about eight in all. We learned later that six or seven people had refused to get on the plane.

"There was no fuss or panic. People just calmly and quietly got off the plane. There were no racist taunts or any remarks directed at the men.

"It was an eerie scene, very quiet. The children were starting to ask what was going on. We tried to play it down."

Mr Schofield, 40, an area sales manager, said: "When the men were taken off they didn't argue or say a word. They just picked up their coats and obeyed the police. They seemed resigned to the fact they were under suspicion.

"The captain and crew were very apologetic when we were asked to evacuate the plane for the security search. But there was no dissent.

"While we were waiting, everyone agreed the men looked dodgy. Some passengers were very panicky and in tears. There was a lot of talking about terrorists."

Patrick Mercer, the Tory Homeland Security spokesman, said last night: "This is a victory for terrorists. These people on the flight have been terrorised into behaving irrationally.

"For those unfortunate two men to be victimised because of the colour of their skin is just nonsense."

Monarch said last night: "The captain was concerned about the security surrounding the two gentlemen on the aircraft and the decision was taken to remove them from the flight for further security checks.

"The two passengers offloaded from the flight were later cleared by airport security and rebooked to travel back to Manchester on a later flight."

A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Malaga said: "These men had aroused suspicion because of their appearance and the fact that they were speaking in a foreign language thought to be an Arabic language, and the pilot was refusing to take off until they were escorted off the plane."

[Phoenix]

Obviously, none of them where bad enough to stop a hijacking if in fact thats what those two "asian" men where planning to do.

Anwyays, I hope to god all those involved in that incident get cancer/sars/bird-flu and die. I dont need stupidity on that level to spread. Just how the fuck something like that can happen is amazing. Im just at a loss of words.

[Gaywood]

god DAMN this makes me want to become a terrorist, board the most loaded plane possible, and punk the shit out of everybody.

[Gaywood]

also, i hope that just set off a homeland security terror alert and agents are now on their way to my house...

WELL I AINT GOIN DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT! KILL EM ALL, LET GOD SORT EM!! WOOOO BRING IT ONNNNNNNNNN

[Soriak]

With the PGT and the hermione threads, I would be surprised if the DHS wasn't aware of this website already. There's probably at least one creepy agent 'monitoring' those threads at all times.

[Wolfen]

Originally Posted by Soriak

With the PGT and the hermione threads, I would be surprised if the DHS wasn't aware of this website already. There's probably at least one creepy agent 'monitoring' those threads at all times.

And I thought I was just being paranoid.

[kuldiin]

Good.

Id gladly pay extra for a flight with no asians allowed.

If thats what it takes in this day and ages, fuck politically correctness.

Id rather get to my destination alive, than bow to some PC bullshit

[Joelage_mcduffbot]

I guess people aren't smart enough to realise terrorists are very smart people. This sort of profiling, whilst it might seem founded and valid, actually means they will make use of it.
There's westerners who have converted and are willing to jihad, they can use people to create diversions by placing dodgy looking dudes on the same flight who will get 'profiled' and detract attention from the real bloke with the explosive shoes.

People are fucking stupid and i would say the average terrorist is smarter than much of the population, and if they think that in this current climate they would send people who would gain unwanted attention they are very much mistaken.

Well done on being retards people.

[Szlia]

Funny you would mention it because the guy with the explosive shoes was from all account "fucking stupid".

[RiskyChris]

Originally Posted by Szlia

Funny you would mention it because the guy with the explosive shoes was from all account "fucking stupid".

Is there a reason the guy with the bomb shoes didn't go into the bathroom? Was his explosive designed to take down the plane or just kill the people around him?

[Joelage_mcduffbot]

yeah i knew there was a guy who got caught with that setup, maybe i should have picked a better example.

Obviously i'm not smart enough to be a terrorist

[Etadanik]

Originally Posted by kuldiin

Good.

Id gladly pay extra for a flight with no asians allowed.

If thats what it takes in this day and ages, fuck politically correctness.

Id rather get to my destination alive, than bow to some PC bullshit

Confusing actual racism with political correctness, eh? You're a fucking retard, but I guess that's obvious to anyone who reads this thread.

Racial profiling isn't right, but it's tolerable. This shit, while understandable as a facet of human nature (self-preservation), is despicable. The more you isolate the Muslim community, the more they feel compelled to band together, and the more susceptible they become to the temptations of jihad. Fuck - I know that if I were Muslim and I had to endure this sort of treatment despite being a legitimate resident/citizen of the country, I'd probably lean towards the dark side, too (that is, the side with the darker skin). After all, if society is going to treat me like an outsider regardless of what I do, then tolerance really is an illusion, and I'd be better off fighting for my own people in the coming race war.

And all the while the politicians of the West choke on their own liberal-fascist dicks. "We're all about multicultralism and justice for all." "This isn't a war of civilizations - no, really, it isn't." A few more incidents like this, and who'd believe them?

We live in a dangerous time. You Europeans should beware - with Europe's declining white population and its huge and dissatisfied Muslim population, if you fail also to assimilate those Muslims who live among you, you all are in one hell of a rollercoaster ride.

[AngryGerbil]

Originally Posted by Etadanik

You Europeans should beware - with Europe's declining white population and its huge and dissatisfied Muslim population, if you fail also to assimilate those Muslims who live among you, you all are in one hell of a rollercoaster ride.

Keyword here is "assimilate".

...not to be confused with "accomodate".

[unregisteredperson]

Originally Posted by AngryGerbil

Keyword here is "assimilate".

...not to be confused with "accomodate".

It's the majorities responsibility to ensure the minorities assimilate, all the minorities need to do is turn up, you know, because they are multiplying faster.

[Clericnon2boxed]

I actually understand the people and have sympathy with them, if you want to blame anyone blame the media and well those arab terrorists, you know 9/11...

Dont be too worried about europe, however I read that russia will be a muslim country within 50 years, cause they dont drink (thus live longer, healthier) and have many children, in contrast to the non-muslim russians.