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Old 09-03-2006, 11:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Reading that forum is like putting your brains through a meatgrinder.

Or, a better analogy, reading the WoW General Forums.
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Old 09-03-2006, 11:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Why are you guys trying to debunk this? Flat earthers make creationists look like shinning gods of intellect, well the ones who actually believe in it. Most however don't, even the modern founder of The flat earth society was clearly being tongue and cheek---maybe. Since the death of Charles Johnson the flat earth society has really gone downhill. In the past you would to be able to send in $15 a year with a short of essay of why you wanted to join and get a big packet and bunch of maps, and a newsletter, which was pretty boss. Unfortunately most of Johnson's archives were destroyed in a fire. Twas a sad day.

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Along with about a million other reasons as to why this is horseshit: the most obvious would be the path of the sun as it travels overhead. Since the earth's axis is tilted relative to the perpendicular path it follows around the sun, no one ever sees the sun directly overhead, yet by their stupid picture, the people right under the sun would.
What? Every parallel between the tropic of cancer and the tropic of capricorn has the sun directly overhead at least one day out of the year...that being the whole...you know..basis for the tropics. Indeed if you have a globe look at the analemma and you can determine exactly when the sun will pass directly overhead (if you live in an equitorial or tropical region) and such interesting information as apparent solar noon, and apparent solar days!

Maybe I can dig out some awesome flat earth essays. Some of the guys went really in depth and form a somewhat compelling psuedoscientific argument that is much better than the blah blah blah conspiray stuff on that forum.

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Old 09-03-2006, 11:40 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 09-03-2006, 02:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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You know a system is flawed when it's unable to properly explain simple things like the sun rising or the phases of the moon.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What? Every parallel between the tropic of cancer and the tropic of capricorn has the sun directly overhead at least one day out of the year...that being the whole...you know..basis for the tropics.
Well that's what I mean. 1 day a year. Not everyday. By their drawing, it should be directly overhead every single day.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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But in that picture the sun has it's own axes of revolution? Assuming that it moved at the correct rates of speed throughout the year, by some crazy fun means I'm sure, there's nothing wrong the model in terms of declination of the sun. It is, however, entirely ad hoc.

Besides, in Daniel 4:10-11 it says, "These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky: it was visible to the ends of the earth." or Matthew 4:8 "Again the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor."

Tell me how that happens on a spherical earth! You can't!

Bible Trivia: The great grandfather of Christ was Matthan!

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Old 09-03-2006, 05:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions as a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

Q: "Please explain sunrises/sunsets."

A: It's a perspective effect. Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.

These people are geniuses!
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I've never seen any serious flat earther who perscribed to a theory other than the domed heavens anyway because it sufficiently explains any celestial movement you can think of. Like I said, flat earth theory has really been in decline the past decade. Gone are the visionaries that once marked this brilliant and open minded field. R.I.P. C. K. Johnson library.
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I bet this has something to do with the odd placement of TM on the Warrior Talent trees.
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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You guys are pretty retarded to actually think these people are serious. They aren't. :/
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Old 09-03-2006, 09:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions as a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

Q: "Please explain sunrises/sunsets."

A: It's a perspective effect. Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.

These people are geniuses!

These guys wrote the Line of Sight code in WoW.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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You guys are pretty retarded to actually think these people are serious. They aren't. :/
But they are, and that is the (sad, scary, depressing, I sometimes wish I wasn't actually a part of this race of animals) part of it.
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Old 09-04-2006, 02:09 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 09-04-2006, 03:23 AM   #29 (permalink)
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best quote from the whole Q&A:

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A: This is unknown. Some believe it to be just rocks, others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:07 AM   #30 (permalink)
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They are obviously poor, and have never flown in a plane. If they did, they'd notice the eliptical horizon, the sun coming up from it, and their int would be +1 from that point on.
Dont even need to fly. Ships with tall masts, as they sail out farther, will seemingly "sink" into the horizon and you will only see their masts. OMG SUBMARINE BOAT CONSPIRACY!
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