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Old 08-29-2006, 05:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Beatmania? Christ...

Starting to realize why the azns slaughtered me in War3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih-WpTZcFIQ

Search youtube for Beatmania + Lisu for more.

edit: apparently playing with solely 1 hand on the buttons is unconventional...
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So this is Guitar hero without the cool?
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...82924299166575

That's my favorite one by far. It may not be the fastest or the hardest or whatever, but it sure is a badass song with a badass stepfile.

I've been interested in Beatmania quite some time now, but I can't seem to find any arcades with it. Given my m4d d0g sk1llz at Stepmania, I'd like to think I could do pretty well at Beatmania. FYI, most of the top DDR/Stepamania/Beatmania/etc players are regular ole white ass honkeys. In fact, the farther you go up the sk1ll chain, the harder it is to find a non-white-teen. Crazy, I know.
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This is a really fucked up link, I dont know where I found it but if anyone know's the name of this song I'd appreciate it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diden%27t
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So this is Guitar hero without the cool?

Except a lot more fun and many times more challenging. It also has a wider variety of genres.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hmm, I'm not too sure about more challenging, except for the fact that Guitar Hero is basically difficulty capped due to no player made content. Other than that, I would wager that Guitar Hero has the mechanics in place to be quite a bit more challenging, since it does differ quite fundamentally from the 'press button hold button' paradigm.

More fun, though? Stepmania so far beats the living shit out of everything else I've played. By miles. I can't imagine Beatmania would be too much different in that aspect, so yeah.
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This is a really fucked up link, I dont know where I found it but if anyone know's the name of this song I'd appreciate it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diden%27t
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...82924299166575

That's my favorite one by far. It may not be the fastest or the hardest or whatever, but it sure is a badass song with a badass stepfile.

I've been interested in Beatmania quite some time now, but I can't seem to find any arcades with it. Given my m4d d0g sk1llz at Stepmania, I'd like to think I could do pretty well at Beatmania.
You can buy beatmania US bundle thingy for like $60 and that comes with controller, then just mod ps2 and download isos or import games from japan. Unlike ddr playing at home on stepmania isn't a big quality difference from the arcades.
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FYI, most of the top DDR/Stepamania/Beatmania/etc players are regular ole white ass honkeys. In fact, the farther you go up the sk1ll chain, the harder it is to find a non-white-teen. Crazy, I know.
Well, of course the top players of any specific nation is going to be it's most common race, it's not a thing about racial innate skills but white people simply got more people up at bat. On the other hand, if you compare our top players with japan's, I think we might finally be a little ahead in DDR because of ITGs exclusitivity here; but asian's still definately whoop us like step headed red childs. Best PIU players are the Mexicans
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well I meant in the world . Best DDR player I've ever seen can AA a moderately difficult keyboard file, and he's just some 14 year old white boy. Best Stepmania players are definitely all white, I can't think of one off the top of my head that isn't, and that's around the globe for sure. I've heard Lisu described as quite the badass at Beatmania, though.
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This is a really fucked up link, I dont know where I found it but if anyone know's the name of this song I'd appreciate it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diden%27t
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Except a lot more fun and many times more challenging. It also has a wider variety of genres.
fun?

as for challenge, all this appears to be is mashing buttons quickly, at least GH has some techniques you can master like Hammerons and Pulloffs. With Genres you mean music genres? Metal and hard rock is all you need

oh yeah and a crowd going wild on screen beats "GREAT 652!" imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj_WY4XywE

not exactly challenging, right?
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Best PIU players are Mexican? Link or no proof. Best I've seen is Canon in D Nightmare done by a Korean guy.
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj_WY4XywE

not exactly challenging, right?
I'd suggest actually playing Stepmania/Beatmania before saying something like that . Simply due to its user created content it's far more challenging than Guitar Hero, which has what, maybe 50? songs you can play total? It's a different kind of challenge, sure, but it's not exactly easier by any stretch of the imagination. Like I said before, Guitar Hero certainly DOES have the mechanics in place to be more challenging, it just can't hold up to an endless amount of content is all.

And yeah, Stepmania is loads of fun. The better you get at it, the more you'll come to appreciate it. I've got a few old to very old videos up at http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kate+hoof of Stepmania, and I'm what you would maybe call an above average player at best. If that. There are people out there who can accurately hit (within one thousandth of a second, I believe it is) up to 31 keys a second. If you don't think that's challenging, you're on crack.
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So this is Guitar hero without the cool?
No, this is Guitar Hero without the cool.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Seriously, how the hell do you people even see what key you have to hit next, let alone processing that information and then hitting the corresponding key before the one-tenth of a second is up and you're already 302 key-presses behind?
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Beatmania is by far the most difficult game I've ever played.

I'm usually really good at rhythm games (DDR and Guitar Hero specifically), by virtue of a strong musical background (10 yrs violin).

After months on and off of playing, I can only consistently do well on the upper tiers of the easiest difficulty. I can fake my way through much of the medium difficulty.

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as for challenge, all this appears to be is mashing buttons quickly, at least GH has some techniques you can master like Hammerons and Pulloffs. With Genres you mean music genres? Metal and hard rock is all you need
Try playing it first. Getting a flashing great on beatmania is way hard. I think it's probably a tighter window than hitting HOPOs in GH.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just takes practice and adjustment. You'll eventually start seeing patterns, starting off on a broadscale and then breaking down into much smaller segments. As that happens, you generally speed up your read speed, your reflexes go up, and most of what you play is ingrained into muscle memory. That's not to say you could even pass a moderately difficult song with your eyes closed, but it only takes a split second to recognize what you need to do and when. It's somewhat like playing the drums, I guess, in the sense that when you're really good you can generally tap out the beat on your keyboard, and instantly pick up where you went wrong when that beat doesn't match perfectly.

I've played a few songs where I've AAA'd (that's all Perfects and Marvelous..es) them on the first run through, despite their difficulty level. Just takes a bit of practice, maybe an hour a day, and anyone can get there.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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How are people enjoying this ? There is zero creativity, it's like training tons of hours to be a substandard robot.
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