Dakota Fanning Rape - Page 3

Yermum Onceme · 07-22-2006, 08:16 AM

Claiming that rape isn't as permanently scarring as physical violence is absolutely crazy fucker. Physical damage no, not usually, but christ, rape victims get seriously messed up sometimes far worse than injured veterans. I'd rather be hurt and relatively happy than emotionally wrecked, thanks. It's your "not as bad" view which is precisely why I think it would make such a powerful plot device. Some people just don't think about how devastating it can be on a child to be sexually abused.

(I work with children)

Kiroy · 07-22-2006, 08:57 AM

What the gov should do is right after the scene is film rush in and arrest, the parents, producers, directors, and actor for child rape...

Lleauaric~EW · 07-22-2006, 11:36 AM

BTW:

Peter Jackson is directing this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0380510/

Kuro · 07-22-2006, 11:37 AM

This do be creepy as fuck.

Vorph · 07-22-2006, 12:10 PM

What is with the retards frothing at the mouth as if the movie will be at all graphic in the portrayal of this 'rape'? Special effects, camera angles, etc. will give the illusion of it being much worse than it is, yet for some reason people are going on like it's going to be full nudity, actual penetration, and maybe they'll just go ahead and kill her for real while filming the final scene.

I think Dakota Fanning is quite possibly the most irritating child actor of all time, so I really don't care how fucked up the movie is anyway since I won't ever be bothering to watch it. I just think people are stupid for getting all sandy about shit that's been going on for decades in movies (see: Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver, Brooke Shields as mentioned above, etc.). This movie isn't going to be anything special.

PS-Peter Jackson is directing a different movie with her in it with similar themes, minus the "oh nos, a rape scene!" The movie this thread is about is called Hounddog, not The Lovely Bones.

Szlia · 07-22-2006, 12:14 PM

1) No one around here saw the movie or even read the script (except Millie maybe?) so I guess you can calm down.

2) There seem to be an idea floating around here that a movie is only meant to be entertaining and that the raping of a child in a movie would then be sick entertainement. This is forgetting that you can make an entertaining movie with parts that are pretty much the opposite of entertaining on purpose for the sake of pacing, contrast and emotion, but it is also forgetting that a fiction film, like other fictions through other media, is not only about entertainement.

Lost Ranger · 07-23-2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etadanik

but then again this is Dakota Fanning we're talking about - the girl who did that screechy kid in War of the Worlds and Samara in The Ring.

Ummm no.....

Dakota Fanning was not Samara in The Ring, or The Ring Two. The girl who played Samara is Daveigh Chase.

Sithro · 07-23-2006, 09:02 PM

So they want us to pay to hear her scream like she did in War of the World?

I'd rather be shot. All I could think about in that movie was how I wanted to kill myself because she wouldn't stop screeching. For fuck's sake...

Etadanik · 07-24-2006, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost Ranger

Ummm no.....

Dakota Fanning was not Samara in The Ring, or The Ring Two. The girl who played Samara is Daveigh Chase.

My bad. They tend to all look the same after a while

Venjenz · 07-25-2006, 04:15 PM

Classic Hollywood shock for shock's sake. And this is nothing new, it will just be done with 2006 fx to use shock as the entire plot line. I would wager money that the movie is formulaic, predictable, dull and has only this super-duper shocking bit of celluloid as its only sellable factor.

And word up on the screech factor in War of the Worlds. I honestly wanted to kill her myself for all that shrieking. I came away from that movie thinking the only way they could get her to shriek that much was that they had one of those electric dog collars wrapped around her thigh or something and just kept mashing the damn button. That and Tom Cruise just existing made that movie a one time shot that will never see replay in me casa.

xilsharn · 07-25-2006, 05:04 PM

The Lovely Bones is an *EXCELLENT* book. However it would be extremely easy (and more effective) to NOT show the child rape and murder central to that book's plot.

07-22-2006, 11:36 AM	#33 (permalink)
Lleauaric~EW "Hamburgers, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast" Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,593 +52 Internets	BTW: Peter Jackson is directing this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0380510/ __________________ Ask yourself.... Last edited by Lleauaric~EW; 07-22-2006 at 11:39 AM..

07-22-2006, 12:10 PM	#35 (permalink)
Vorph Fuck Art, Let's Kill Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 7,244	What is with the retards frothing at the mouth as if the movie will be at all graphic in the portrayal of this 'rape'? Special effects, camera angles, etc. will give the illusion of it being much worse than it is, yet for some reason people are going on like it's going to be full nudity, actual penetration, and maybe they'll just go ahead and kill her for real while filming the final scene. I think Dakota Fanning is quite possibly the most irritating child actor of all time, so I really don't care how fucked up the movie is anyway since I won't ever be bothering to watch it. I just think people are stupid for getting all sandy about shit that's been going on for decades in movies (see: Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver, Brooke Shields as mentioned above, etc.). This movie isn't going to be anything special. PS-Peter Jackson is directing a different movie with her in it with similar themes, minus the "oh nos, a rape scene!" The movie this thread is about is called Hounddog, not The Lovely Bones. __________________ ...the whole world's going to blow up anyway. I might as well keep my pride. eRepublik Referral (PM me for assistance if you start up using my link)

07-22-2006, 12:14 PM	#36 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,644 +25 Internets	1) No one around here saw the movie or even read the script (except Millie maybe?) so I guess you can calm down. 2) There seem to be an idea floating around here that a movie is only meant to be entertaining and that the raping of a child in a movie would then be sick entertainement. This is forgetting that you can make an entertaining movie with parts that are pretty much the opposite of entertaining on purpose for the sake of pacing, contrast and emotion, but it is also forgetting that a fiction film, like other fictions through other media, is not only about entertainement. __________________ -retrosabotage-

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07-22-2006, 08:16 AM	#31 (permalink)
Yermum Onceme Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,693 -1 Internets	Claiming that rape isn't as permanently scarring as physical violence is absolutely crazy fucker. Physical damage no, not usually, but christ, rape victims get seriously messed up sometimes far worse than injured veterans. I'd rather be hurt and relatively happy than emotionally wrecked, thanks. It's your "not as bad" view which is precisely why I think it would make such a powerful plot device. Some people just don't think about how devastating it can be on a child to be sexually abused. (I work with children)

07-22-2006, 08:57 AM	#32 (permalink)
Kiroy CORP POR! Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,234 -6 Internets	What the gov should do is right after the scene is film rush in and arrest, the parents, producers, directors, and actor for child rape...

07-22-2006, 11:37 AM	#34 (permalink)
Kuro Support Beam Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,977 +56 Internets	This do be creepy as fuck.

07-25-2006, 05:04 PM	#41 (permalink)
xilsharn Definitely a chick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,743 -4 Internets	The Lovely Bones is an EXCELLENT book. However it would be extremely easy (and more effective) to NOT show the child rape and murder central to that book's plot.