The scariest video on youtube

[Sole]

I hope Jesus reads this thread and you all go to hell.

[Scape667]

Religion is retarded. Being spiritual is not. If you have to follow a mass of people blindly and lie to yourself to convince yourself of religios bullshit babble then frankly you dont need to be alive.

If you follow your own idealisms and choose to believe in certain things then more power to you.

However, if you are one of those fucking worthless pieces of shit religion fanatics who try and force your beliefs on others then I hope you get tortured to death. I cant tell you how many times I have had some dumbass person walk up to me where I used work (Gas Station) and try and tell me how "god" has changed thier life. If you need to use god as an excuse for your shitty life to make yourself feel better instead of taking control of your own shit then you are a loser. Bar none, a fucking fag loser.

All of modern christianity can pretty much be disbarred with this aritcle...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Basically, god was made up.

[Qalar-Drinal]

Originally Posted by Sole

I hope Jesus reads this thread and you all go to hell.

If I go to hell for being in this thread, then maybe hell is a better place?

[Murr]

Originally Posted by DRocleric

The black guy in the grey suit at 3:02-3:12 ... can somebody make a .gif of that dude running in place / dancing?

lolol

[Taranatar]

Originally Posted by Scape667

Religion is retarded. Being spiritual is not. If you have to follow a mass of people blindly and lie to yourself to convince yourself of religios bullshit babble then frankly you dont need to be alive.

If you follow your own idealisms and choose to believe in certain things then more power to you.

However, if you are one of those fucking worthless pieces of shit religion fanatics who try and force your beliefs on others then I hope you get tortured to death. I cant tell you how many times I have had some dumbass person walk up to me where I used work (Gas Station) and try and tell me how "god" has changed thier life. If you need to use god as an excuse for your shitty life to make yourself feel better instead of taking control of your own shit then you are a loser. Bar none, a fucking fag loser.

All of modern christianity can pretty much be disbarred with this aritcle...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Basically, god was made up.

Why don't you stop being a hypocrite by forcing your beliefs on me?

[Yermum Onceme]

It'd be so far more easier to prove God exists if he does than to prove that he does not if he indeed does not. If you want people to stop claiming God exists, don't insist that he does not. Drop the fucking issue.

As for the original topic - that looked way more fun that any drug experience I've ever had. I may have to become a pentacostal christian!

[Lejina Bloodbath]

God = Jesus = Tooth Fairy = Santa Claus = Leprechaun

They are all equally made up and we have no way to prove their existance or lack of existance for that matter.

Still obvious to anyone with some basic common sense.

[Scape667]

Originally Posted by Taranatar

Why don't you stop being a hypocrite by forcing your beliefs on me?

Im not forcing anything on you douche bag. I am pointing out shit that most people overlook most of the time. Everyone knows the Christian side of shit but no one ever looks at the other side and thats why shit like religion keeps growing.

So go force a dildo up your ass you bitch.

[Quineloe]

Actullay there is a lot of proof that Jesus has existed :P

[Lejina Bloodbath]

As a man made of flesh and bones, yeah. You got a point there.

As the actual son of God, color me skeptical.

[Taranatar]

Originally Posted by Scape667

Im not forcing anything on you douche bag. I am pointing out shit that most people overlook most of the time. Everyone knows the Christian side of shit but no one ever looks at the other side and thats why shit like religion keeps growing.

So go force a dildo up your ass you bitch.

See, the difference between you and me is that I respect your opinion and merely caught a flaw in your logic. You just mock me and have no respect for what I think whatsoever.

What makes you think everyone knows the Christian side of shit when 90% of people (tons of Christians included) still believe that Christianity is based all around doing enough good things to get to heaven as opposed to what actually is the way?

Anyway, you' obviously don't want to seriously discuss it if you're falling on personal insults so early on.

[Yermum Onceme]

He just doesn't get it. He feels his view (atheism) is right, and will continue to belligerently shove his view where it isn't ask for, and then wonder why OTHER views get tossed around.

It's really simple. If you don't attack christianity or other religious views, they won't get brought up anywhere close to as much here. This thread went a while teetering along religious debate lines yet staying quite amazingly informative (what these nuts believe etc). Then you get comments like god does not exist, and wonder why people would defend their beliefs here. Don't thump christianity OR atheism and things don't have to turn into cesspits in these threads.

[Scape667]

Honestly, I just like to argue. I really think religious debates are meaningless because its impossible to proove either way but I lean toward the logic -- not the emotional appeal.

Sorry I have a some what negative perspective on something that is pretty much destroying our world. Maybe if religion was still religion and not the political bull shit it pretty much is today, Id find a bit more respect for it. Most people dont even know why the believe in god they were just raised that way and it was never questioned. I just think they should question it then make a choice. Not just blindly believe in something.

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by Belefuu

Let me attempt to sum up a few of the points you are trying to make here...

So you admit that there is absolutely zero logical reason to believe in the Christian God, and that there never will be (cause that would break the rules, see).

But the people who don't believe in God are the ignorant ones?

Now that you've eliminated any kind of logic as a reason to believe in God, I guess that leaves, what, him speaking to you inside your head? Did this happen to you? Or are you just going to keep up the 'believers believe, haters hate' crazy person bullshit, because you don't want to come to terms with the fact that you have no more reason to believe in God than anyone else has not to?

I'm going to guess it's the latter, but I would love to hear your illogical personal reason for believing in God.

My reason for believing is right in front of your eyes, bud:

faith n.

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.

You are either one of two people, one who can belive in something that he cannot see or one who must see to believe. I know it might be hard for you to grasp, but there are those kinds of people in the world, and contrary to what you may personally believe, the former does not require any form of logic.

[EnigmaticParadigm]

Not sure how this will sound, but, oh well.

God to me is something different. Something that can't be quantified by herding into a building on the 7th day of the week and offering up monetary donations to a non-transparent enterprise. God is not me - forcing my personal beliefs and the beliefs of my denomination upon you. God is not me - telling you that you are going to hell based upon certain things you choose to do or not to do; basically, people that follow the words and works of the Christian God should never judge others...hypocrisy.

God to me is not starting wars in It's name. God to me is not using It's name to pass legislation that would restrict, deny, or profit certain groups or individuals. God is not present in houses of marble alone. God is not something that would doom you to eternal "hell" simply because you don't believe in the written word of hundreds of editors to a work that is 2000 + years old. God does not favor one group above another; what would be the point (as in "why would God create a group of living, sentient creatures whom It did not love?" For simple amusement? That is no God, but I could be wrong.).

God to me is something you feel when you are alone, in times of need, in times of thanks, in times of crisis, in times of humility, and in times of pause. God is something that is as individual to me as it is to you. One can attempt to quantify God with intent, but no one living human will ever get it right. God cannot be put into words. Moses, Jesus, Mohammad (sp?), Buddha, etc; were they real people/ or did they embody real people? I believe so. Were they emissaries or spokesman for God? Perhaps, but in the way in which they percieved God. You may choose to look at God from a certain point of view the same as I.

In the end, God means something different to every single person. Should we start wars, propagate bias, exclude those of less financial persuasion, and/or molest the teachings of a few into the cult-like horrors of today?

God is simple. God is beyond anyone's comprehension, so stop saying that you are right or that others are wrong. God is a reflection of your personal set of mores. God emulates you as an individual, or (if you choose this line of thought), you emulate God as you see It.

To me, God is something that comforts me when I have absolutely no answers. God is the silent force that let's me know everything will be alright. Is this self-delusion? Possibly, but it is personal to me, and it works. Your mileage may vary.

/sleep post.