It will show you how it owns you

GaliemVaelant · 12-12-2005, 04:49 PM

The thinking machine

This thing is insane! I can't beat it. Hell, I can't get more than a couple of its pieces. The bad part is that the thing shows you what it's going to do before it does it.

I'll be trying my hand against this thing some time later, but wow. I've never seen a machine that I can't beat before.

makist · 12-12-2005, 05:02 PM

Hmm.. whats different about it? Other than the pretty lines?

Zistrix · 12-12-2005, 05:02 PM

Got pretty far with kings pawn. Both queens down in relatively equal exchange. Both of us had the corner guard with king/castle exchange. I was the aggressor and then he stunned me with a freak pawn dash that I wasn't prepared for and I lost position. I did manage to exchange checks and gain some position back but after that pawn move he had gained too much and I couldn't come back. My mistake though.

The graphics of the pieces certainly threw me off since I am used to traditional chess piece graphics.

Seems to be about medium difficulty equal to that of the more common programs you can download that don't use advanced engines. Most of them just anticipate moves + outcomes for x amount of turns and then make the most powerful move available, usually based on exchange values and position on the board. The more advanced engines factor in opening and other strategies, making them more difficult. Roll them all up into 1 and calculate the game to its end each time then you have IBMs deep blue.

Szlia · 12-12-2005, 05:13 PM

EDIT: answering Galiem

You must not be very good at chess then, because I suck and have not played in years and did not come that far from winning...

But the thinking thing looks good.

Dutchy · 12-12-2005, 05:14 PM

OMG!!! Computer beats man in chess game!?!?!?! NO WAY!

Jinheim · 12-12-2005, 05:28 PM

It's really annoying to have to sit and watch the lines for so long.

Ahnkosis · 12-12-2005, 07:02 PM

Meh it wasn't that smart. It took a while to beat me (only because it sits there and draws the damn lines).

Hippos II · 12-12-2005, 07:39 PM

i got bored after it took it 2 minutes to make a decision after my 2nd move.

i guess you could call it a psych-out

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Sabyn · 12-12-2005, 07:45 PM

Guess this is a decent place to ask: I want to get good at chess, how would I go about doing this? What books should I read?

Tomnoddy · 12-12-2005, 07:55 PM

books about chess

Tuco · 12-12-2005, 08:07 PM

They said it wasn't supposed to be a master at chess btw, just a project to show logical paths in chess.

Candelabra · 12-12-2005, 08:10 PM

Sahovski Informator: The Encyclopedia of Chess Openings

I'd recommend Bobby Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games, too.

Frawdo · 12-12-2005, 08:14 PM

How to get good at Chess: For Dummies!

It beat me, took a while though, it's pretty slow.

Big W Powah! · 12-12-2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frawdo

How to get good at Chess: For Dummies!

It beat me, took a while though, it's pretty slow.

Eh, I managed to beat it with the classic Queen Sacrafice...

James · 12-12-2005, 08:52 PM

It's cheating for me, it's not allowing me to do a perfectly legal queen move to put him in check.

12-12-2005, 04:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
GaliemVaelant An Excellent Driver Join Date: May 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,693 +1 Internets	It will show you how it owns you The thinking machine This thing is insane! I can't beat it. Hell, I can't get more than a couple of its pieces. The bad part is that the thing shows you what it's going to do before it does it. I'll be trying my hand against this thing some time later, but wow. I've never seen a machine that I can't beat before. __________________ "...And now I lay him down to sleep, and pray the lord my son could speak..."

12-12-2005, 05:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,591 +6 Internets	EDIT: answering Galiem You must not be very good at chess then, because I suck and have not played in years and did not come that far from winning... But the thinking thing looks good. __________________ -retrosabotage-

12-12-2005, 05:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dutchy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Inside your alarm clock! Posts: 120 +0 Internets	OMG!!! Computer beats man in chess game!?!?!?! NO WAY! __________________ AKA 8bitpwnsj00 Cool People : Turkish :: Dak :: Ceno :: Kiksar Fuckwads : Blaezenfury :: GaliemVaelant

12-12-2005, 05:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jinheim I am all that is man Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 392 -1 Internets	It's really annoying to have to sit and watch the lines for so long. __________________ Jinheim - 60 Orc Hunter Kadron - 60 Tauren Shaman Azgalor

12-12-2005, 07:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ahnkosis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 680 +0 Internets	Meh it wasn't that smart. It took a while to beat me (only because it sits there and draws the damn lines). __________________ bloodninja: Hello? bloodninja: Say it! bloodninja: HAARRRRRR!!!!!

12-12-2005, 05:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
makist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rodcet Nife Posts: 763 -1 Internets	Hmm.. whats different about it? Other than the pretty lines?

12-12-2005, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zistrix The Overkill Killer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,063	Got pretty far with kings pawn. Both queens down in relatively equal exchange. Both of us had the corner guard with king/castle exchange. I was the aggressor and then he stunned me with a freak pawn dash that I wasn't prepared for and I lost position. I did manage to exchange checks and gain some position back but after that pawn move he had gained too much and I couldn't come back. My mistake though. The graphics of the pieces certainly threw me off since I am used to traditional chess piece graphics. Seems to be about medium difficulty equal to that of the more common programs you can download that don't use advanced engines. Most of them just anticipate moves + outcomes for x amount of turns and then make the most powerful move available, usually based on exchange values and position on the board. The more advanced engines factor in opening and other strategies, making them more difficult. Roll them all up into 1 and calculate the game to its end each time then you have IBMs deep blue.

12-12-2005, 07:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hippos II Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 684 -1 Internets	i got bored after it took it 2 minutes to make a decision after my 2nd move. i guess you could call it a psych-out .

12-12-2005, 07:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sabyn I Self Lord And Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 625 -2 Internets	Guess this is a decent place to ask: I want to get good at chess, how would I go about doing this? What books should I read?

12-12-2005, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tomnoddy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 +0 Internets	books about chess

12-12-2005, 08:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 7,960 +16 Internets	They said it wasn't supposed to be a master at chess btw, just a project to show logical paths in chess. __________________ Arthur's Hall: A Forum for men.

12-12-2005, 08:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Candelabra Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21 +0 Internets	Sahovski Informator: The Encyclopedia of Chess Openings I'd recommend Bobby Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games, too.

12-12-2005, 08:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Frawdo Death By Sexy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,642 +3 Internets	How to get good at Chess: For Dummies! It beat me, took a while though, it's pretty slow. __________________ It's okay. She can jump really high

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