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Old 08-13-2004, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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funny bush video

yeah, I've seen a few videos posted of bush just making an ass out of himself, but this one takes the cake, not sure if it's ever been posted or how old it is.. but here it is

http://www.fivaxis.com/sovereignty.wmv
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Old 08-13-2004, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hate Bush as much as the next blue blooded American but I sorta sympathize with him on this one. Why should he care about native American tribal sovereignty? We juked them out of all their stuff a LONG time ago. It's the sovereign governments of the Middle East he is focused on...removing.

The real problem with what he said there is he proclaimed Indians were "Given sovereignty". The fact is, Native Americans had full sovereignty while Bush's ancestors were roaming the wilderness of Europe clad in antelope skins.

*Shrug* What can you expect though, this is coming from the same guy who claims he gave the "Iraqi people a working government" even though the Iraqi people were building the cities before people had even made it as far north as Europe.

Politically active Native Americans, which is like all of them have just been ostracized ladies and gentlemen.

Now I know why he didn't talk to the NAACP. His crew was probably afraid he would slip up and say something like "The African people were given a free ride over to this country, thats across the entire Atlantic ocean friends. If you try to do that today expect to spend atleast 400 dollars. Per Person."
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Old 08-14-2004, 12:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Let me ask this of the fohguild.org readers. What if Bush would have answered that question by saying, "Well sir, tribal sovereignty has nothing to do with the 21st century because the tribes got their shit ruined in the 18th & 19th century. Larger "tribes" tried to challenge this in the American Cival War and lost, so what the fuck is the point of your question poindexter? The Federal Govermnet owns you and your "tribes", and since I am the head of said federal goverment, I inherently own you and therefore reject your question on the basis that it is irrelevant and loaded for my failure to begin with, dumbass. Now sit down."

Bush would win points in my book. Hell, ANY politican would win points in my book with an answer like that.

But no, we get this instead... I both love and hate politics at the same tiime.
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Old 08-14-2004, 01:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Let me ask this of the fohguild.org readers. What if Bush would have answered that question by saying, "Well sir, tribal sovereignty has nothing to do with the 21st century because the tribes got their shit ruined in the 18th & 19th century. Larger "tribes" tried to challenge this in the American Cival War and lost, so what the fuck is the point of your question poindexter? The Federal Govermnet owns you and your "tribes", and since I am the head of said federal goverment, I inherently own you and therefore reject your question on the basis that it is irrelevant and loaded for my failure to begin with, dumbass. Now sit down."

Bush would win points in my book. Hell, ANY politican would win points in my book with an answer like that.

But no, we get this instead... I both love and hate politics at the same tiime.
This country from a political standpoint is nothing but a bunch of interest groups looking out for their people. Politicians know this, the interest groups know this.

While tribal sovereignty has little impact on 21st century policy Bush still won't outright say it is irrelevant.

Why? Sure nobody gives two shits about the vote of a few of uppity Indians but if he tells one interest group to go to hell the rest might fear they are next.

Jews and using the Holocaust to support an Israeli state and reparations?

The High Melanin inclined and Slavery to push equal opportunity and reparations?

Indians and Tribal sovereignty allowing them to have increased independence from state and federal government?

This could all be looked at as water under the bridge but interest groups thrive on it so it stays. If a president wants minority votes he needs to make it clear that their "sorrow fraught histories" will be engrained into every last little cracker child their entire school careers.

This is all fine and dandy with me, it's how politics work. My problem is Bush is so fucking inept that he can't even kiss ass right.

The thought that some president in the far-flung future will make a gross historical error while talking about the Holocaust like Bush did with Indians in that clip makes Jews piss their pants. And Jews with piss in their pants encave skulls'o plenty.

If some black guy had asked Bush if "the 13th amendment entailed reparations for people of color" and Bush declaring "I forget, which amendment is that?" he would be in DEEP shit. Him not knowing what tribal sovereignty is in some depth is just as blatent of a flaw if not more since it actually has some relevance in several states.

What is really funny is Bush is trying to place a democracy in Iraq...a country which has several parts completely controlled by tribal factions. If he does not know how the federal government interacts with tribes in the United States how the fuck is he going to relate Iraqi tribal leadership with the government he is trying to get going there?
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Old 08-14-2004, 01:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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God damn, it's so painful to watch him speak when he's not reading off something written for him.

I hate Bush but even I can barely watch someone so make such a fool of themselves.
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Old 08-14-2004, 02:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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How about we forget about the subject and just focus on the fact that he had no clue and tried to define a word by using it in the definition.

Keep digging bushy.
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Old 08-14-2004, 02:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You know , for years I have restrained from registering to vote
because someone once told me thats where they get the list of
names to select people for jury duty. After watching that I feel
compelled to head on out and drop one in the ballot for good ole
GW.

Tribal sovereignty means that , its sovereign ! Oh man how I
wish he would have stopped right there and asked for the next
question instead of trying to elaborate.
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Heh, I do like Bush, but even I have to admit that was painful to watch
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Holy shit, rarely do I ever actually laugh out loud, but that was too damn funny.

I can't fucking wait until the televised debates between him and Kerry. Political parties aside, as one man to another, Kerry will own the shit out of Bush; and I hate Kerry (hate Bush more).

/no, I don't support Nader.

What will be even more entertaining will be the Edwards/ Cheny debates. I can see that one getting nasty really quick. I hope to God they don't edit the debates...mark my words, this year is a year to watch whether you vote or not (please vote, you apathetic bastards).

But, according to the time traveller web site we'll all be dead soon anyway in the next Civil War, so...m'eh.
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Old 08-14-2004, 06:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If the fucking indians are so sovereign how about we cut all of our federal funding to them? Ohh wait their want their completely free health care and casinos!

Pathetic humans, they need to wake up and stop sucking on the government's tit just like every other minority.
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Old 08-14-2004, 07:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ya! fuck native Americans! We only slaughtered 90% of their people and forced the left over 10% to live in shit hole reservations and in poverty for 150 years.

Man you fuckers are some serious retards.
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Old 08-14-2004, 08:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Sounds like we wtfpwned them and they need to get over it already.
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Old 08-14-2004, 08:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What year did the US have its last battle against American Indians?

What year is it now?

Thought so. its time for those drunken crybabies to stop sucking on the welfare of the USA and act like every other american. Cut off those tax free resorts they are living on too. Blacks and Asians were treated much worse than the american indian and you dont see them with their own parcel of tax free land.

You cant even use the argument American Indians were here first and so it makes everything theirs. There is proven archeological evidence of caucasian cultures in the USA that pre-date any indian artifacts.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...americans.html

Even if Indians were here first, so? There is no international dibs law, we needed that land and so we took it. Sucks to be them, but boohoo thats history. No american alive is responsible for the Indian wars . Just stop the fucking coddling of these people. There is no reason to feel guilty or continue this gravy train with them.

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Old 08-14-2004, 09:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ya! fuck native Americans! We only slaughtered 90% of their people and forced the left over 10% to live in shit hole reservations and in poverty for 150 years.

Man you fuckers are some serious retards.
I don't remember slaughtering any indians in my time.... Considering alomost every different nationality has a population in this country you're basically blaming everybody in the world for the event's the Native Americans had to go through hundreds of years ago.
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Ya! fuck native Americans! We only slaughtered 90% of their people and forced the left over 10% to live in shit hole reservations and in poverty for 150 years.

Man you fuckers are some serious retards.
Yeah so I have to pay for what a bunch of crazy hicks did 150 years ago?

Yeah its sad and wrong what happend but get the fuck over it. Dont bitch and cry! Assimilate into the capitalist society that is America and maybe you might better yourself and family.
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