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Old 10-21-2007, 02:46 PM   #13861 (permalink)
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I think "in power" refers more to the world/america in general as opposed to your specific situation. I'm not making an argument either way about who has more power in our world, but I think most people would say that men are more powerful in the world. (more influence and such, not physical strength or anything like that)
Theres a reason for that. Most women aren't predisposed to fighting, and alot don't like violence. That makes you a bad, terrible leader if someone invades your shit.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:02 PM   #13862 (permalink)
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Reading that makes my head hurt. Part of me would enjoy having a dialog with her and debunking every ridiculous and sexist notion she has, but the other half of me realizes she'll never care. I am stunned she would actually say that women can't be sexist. That is the sheer DEFINITION of sexism: "discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex" from the 2nd definition on dictionary.com. The truly scary part is she's in college and probably has the gumption to do well too. She's going to be in a position of power someday and that makes me sad.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:00 PM   #13863 (permalink)
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Paraphraseing what Banky told Holden.....that holds a universal truth about woman.



All she needs is some serious deep dicking
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:18 PM   #13864 (permalink)
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I think "in power" refers more to the world/america in general as opposed to your specific situation. I'm not making an argument either way about who has more power in our world, but I think most people would say that men are more powerful in the world. (more influence and such, not physical strength or anything like that)
I'm a big believer in the idea that modern feminism servers two roles:

1) To prop up an area of Academia that would otherwise leave many people without any means of maintaining a job (seriously, "Women's Studies"? WTF).

and..

2) As part of a larger clusterfuck, specifically the expertly maintained state of class warfare in this country (blacks vs. whites, rich vs. poor, men vs. women, straight vs. gay, etc.). People in both political parties use this shit as a way of giving their constituents someone to blame, lock in votes, and keep people focused on hating each other instead of paying attention to how little those in Washington and in state governments are actually doing to make our lives better.

There will always be ignorant, retarded people who make gross generalizations about large groups of people based on limited knowledge and experience. That will never change. The problem is, now that we've gotten rid of serious, government-sponsored discrimination (at least in regards to most racial and gender-based issues), movements like feminism end up promoting resentment towards women more than anything else. Guys feel threatened by the rather ignorant and hateful rhetoric, and lots of impressionable young women (not arguing that they're impressionable because they are female) buy into the "blame men" shit and not only piss of guys everywhere but they end up with this fucked up victim mentality and don't ever face the real reasons for their problems.

If feminists really cared about equality, they would be campaigning for no separate women's sports and for no branch of the military, law enforcement, or firefighting to have separate (generally lower) standards for women.

But of course, that will never happen.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:20 PM   #13865 (permalink)
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:26 PM   #13866 (permalink)
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It's funny how this debate crops up right as i'm about to start writing a paper on this very subject. And i have to say, i share many of your views Glaive. Demanding equality, yet limiting the terms to those you feel your "group" is entitled to and can compete with, is forcing inclusion while broadcasting the differences. I fail to comprehend how these people can claim to be rational, all the while making declarations of their difference and pigeonholing themselves into the roles they make speeches of protest about.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:53 PM   #13867 (permalink)
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Mind putting the UFC fight results in spoiler quotes please? Unfortunately I already knew the Silva/Franklin results thanks to google news, but I'd prefer not to have to watch what I read in SS.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:58 PM   #13868 (permalink)
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Mind putting the UFC fight results in spoiler quotes please? Unfortunately I already knew the Silva/Franklin results thanks to google news, but I'd prefer not to have to watch what I read in SS.
The event is over and the video is already up in the MMA and Video threads.

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Old 10-21-2007, 07:20 PM   #13869 (permalink)
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The event is over and the video is already up in the MMA and Video threads.
Well it would be pretty hard to complain about spoilers being posted if the event wasn't over...
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:39 PM   #13870 (permalink)
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Well it would be pretty hard to complain about spoilers being posted if the event wasn't over...
...People can post spoilers during the event too. It's not just one fight.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:09 PM   #13871 (permalink)
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A paused video doesn't show me shit. I can choose whether to click play on it or not. Someone posting the results in a picture thread in the screenshots forum less than 24 hours after the fight is just shitty IMO.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:18 PM   #13872 (permalink)
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A paused video doesn't show me shit. I can choose whether to click play on it or not. Someone posting the results in a picture thread in the screenshots forum less than 24 hours after the fight is just shitty IMO.
So when the hell did you plan on watching it?
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:20 PM   #13873 (permalink)
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I'm watching it right now.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:28 PM   #13874 (permalink)
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If feminists really cared about equality, they would be campaigning for no separate women's sports and for no branch of the military, law enforcement, or firefighting to have separate (generally lower) standards for women.
I agree with everything you said except that part. Everything you listed have one thing in common: physical ability. Yes, I know there are some freaks out there, but by and large, women lack noticeably behind men in physical ability. If you hold women to the same standards, you risk very very low enrollment, almost to the point of "why bother?". It's also part of the reason why Title IX blows.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:34 PM   #13875 (permalink)
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I agree with everything you said except that part. Everything you listed have one thing in common: physical ability. Yes, I know there are some freaks out there, but by and large, women lack noticeably behind men in physical ability. If you hold women to the same standards, you risk very very low enrollment, almost to the point of "why bother?". It's also part of the reason why Title IX blows.
Those standards were put in place for a reason. If you can't do the job properly you shouldn't be considered.

For example, if someone is trapped in a burning house and a female firefighter finds them but is physically incapable to pull them out of the house whereas a man could have, then they died for what reason? So we could pretend to be PC?
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