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Old 07-18-2007, 03:38 PM   #9226 (permalink)
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Goddamn Makata, shut the fuck up already. Take this to the sports thread if you feel the need to continue. Walking and running are two very different mechanical processes in terms of the muscles used, efficiency, and so on. You cannot equate one with the other.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:53 PM   #9227 (permalink)
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This is completely not true. Doing exercise will help anyone lose some weight, but it alone is not enough for alot of people. Even daily moderate to high exercise plus a good diet. I don't have the healthiest lifestyle but I've spent months at a time walking about 1-1.5 miles a day and eating little more than soup and veggies and didn't lose much weight, and I don't even pretend to be the worst possible case.

Genetics plays a major role in your weight and giving some blanket statement like "go run some laps and you'll be thin" is just plain ignorant.
You should educate yourself on nutrition Makata. Learn about Basal Metabolic Rate, google: harris benedict formula . Learn about starvation mode. Learn about eating clean and healthy, avoid processed foods get enough lean complete protein (lean chicken, beef, turkey, fish, pork, cottage cheese, whey etc), good carbs (veggies, fruit) and good fats (nuts, fish oils, olive oil etc). This is an excellent resource:

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Seriously. I'm not saying "go run some laps fatty", although unless you've been diagnosed by a doctor with a serious medical condition preventing you from doing it... thats a good idea in most cases. I'm saying eat properly and get some exercise. that goes for everyone from the obese like this guy, to the "skinny fat" guy who is basically thin but has no muscle mass at all.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:08 PM   #9228 (permalink)
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Sorry to further gay up this thread, but when walking you maintain a fluid efficient motion. When running, you are essentially jumping over and over again. A great deal of energy is wasted by making your body needlessly leave the ground.

Most people need many days/weeks to recover from a marathon run. If you walk 26 miles, you can do it again the next day. Issue closed.

Oh and wind resistance definitely does matter. Mythbusters showed that a car got close to twice as fuel efficient when tailgating a semi. And birds doing a flying V isn't because they really like the mighty ducks movie.

And since this is a pic thread, and I have no original pics, here is my favorite pic from this entire thread reposted.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:32 PM   #9229 (permalink)
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All the text makes me a sad panda. Jerk off 24 hours a day to keep your heart rate up. nuff said.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:38 PM   #9230 (permalink)
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Genetics affects BODY COMPOSITION, not weight. There's a huge difference.

If you use up more Calories than you take in, you lose weight. It's not fucking rocket surgery. Being that you are made of food (science for teh win), if you do not supply enough fuel and building materials to maintain your existing mass, no matter how shitty your metabolic rate is, YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT.

The trick is to make sure you lose fat and not muscle, and doing shitloads of cardio and/or eating too little will result in far more lost lean body mass than actual fat.

It is completely, 100% impossible (no, you can't argue with this) for someone to "diet" and still not lose weight, much less gain weight. If you're on a diet and don't lose weight, it means you are eating too many damn calories.

If you're losing weight but not really getting leaner (aka less fat) then it means your diet and/or exercise regimen needs to be reformulated.

Eating plenty of protein, healthy fats, and low GI (slow digesting) carbohydrates spread over many meals (generally 6 or so) is essential, combined with either lots of low-intensity cardio or smaller sessions of intense cardio and, most importantly, resistance training. Some form of resistance training, generally weightlifting, is the only way to make sure your body prioritizes the preservation of lean mass. It will help you even if you don't want to get bigger or stronger and just want to be a non-fatass.

In short, Makata is retarded. He's not fat because of genetics, he's fat because he spends so much time trying to compensate for his insecurities by wtfpwning newbs in PVP.

And for the record, I'm speaking as someone who was fat almost from birth and dropped from 245 lbs. down to 162 before I started bulking up (in a good way). Genetics is a fucking cop-out used by people without the fucking discipline or knowledge to fucking work hard enough and/or smart enough to get shit accomplished. True, some things are made more difficult by genetics, but that's true about everything. Genetics don't somehow allow you to defy the laws of nature. You're not that fucking special.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #9231 (permalink)
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Heard of the southafrican runner with the missing lower legs ? The IAAF, that tries to stop him competing against non handicapped, now argues that his artificial lower legs have less wind resistance and thus providing him with an unfair advantage.
And Lance Armstrong has an advantage from being more aerodynamic due to missing a testicle. The idiots complaining are just looking for an excuse for losing.

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Oh and wind resistance definitely does matter. Mythbusters showed that a car got close to twice as fuel efficient when tailgating a semi.
Cars and people are clearly the exact same thing. Shit .. I suppose I should always run into the wind for maximum effect!!!
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:48 PM   #9232 (permalink)
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Hope these aren't repeats. I actually went through the whole thread before over like 2 weeks but I already forgot. Found these on my interweb surfing.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:50 PM   #9233 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:52 PM   #9234 (permalink)
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Running one mile and walking one mile exert the same amount of energy, just running burns it quicker than walking. If you were to set an amount of time as your limit, then running would trump walking, as you cover more distance running for 30 minutes than you would walking for 30 minutes.
Goddamn this is retarded.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:55 PM   #9235 (permalink)
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Makata if you run everday for a month for 30 minutes and not lose weight I will give you my asian balls. When I say run, I mean running till you get tired, then stop till you can run again.

Oh btw, don't talk as if 1.5-2 miles is a lot. I was in Hong Kong for a month from mid May - mid June. Had to walk at least that kind of distant everyday to get to the subway to go ANYWHERE. Try walking 4-5 hours a fucking day and we will talk.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:57 PM   #9236 (permalink)
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Goddamn this is retarded.
Not really retarded, just what I was always taught by my cross country coach. If I was misinformed, my bad. It's really not that serious.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:00 PM   #9237 (permalink)
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Running and walking are two actions with much mechanical differences.

When walking you always have one foot in contact with the ground. You pretty much just give enough momentum to lose balance and fall on the other foot.

Running, you actually jump, both feet leave the ground, then you have to absorb the impact and nearly all the muscles of your body have to stiffen to keep you straight. To keep your balance your arms have to swing wider.

Not quite the same thing.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:04 PM   #9238 (permalink)
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This is like saying fucking a girl and fucking your hand are the same thing.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:04 PM   #9239 (permalink)
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Why is there an argument about the benefits/consequences/effects of running vs walking in a random picture thread?
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:14 PM   #9240 (permalink)
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