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Old 10-27-2008, 10:09 PM   #29626 (permalink)
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if only hard work actually yielded a proportional amount of pay.
If you work too hard for too little, time to get a new job... not tax someone else.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:40 PM   #29627 (permalink)
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If you work too hard for too little, time to get a new job... not tax someone else.
I would still argue it is easy to find a good job. I'm amazed if you can flip through them like pages in a phone book. Additionally, I am completely in favor of taxing some people.

80% of the US population holds 9% of the net financial wealth. Meanwhile the top 1% controls 47% and the next 19% controls 44%.


Statistically speaking, the distribution of wealth mirrors the US during the 1920s, and I don't come from a tycoon family, so I argue for taxing the elite.

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Old 10-27-2008, 11:15 PM   #29628 (permalink)
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I would still argue it is easy to find a good job. I'm amazed if you can flip through them like pages in a phone book. Additionally, I am completely in favor of taxing some people.

80% of the US population holds 9% of the net financial wealth. Meanwhile the top 1% controls 47% and the next 19% controls 44%.
Most people I've met seem to be under the impression that if they make 20k a year and pay $1500 a year in taxes, then someone else who makes 200k a year pays $15000 a year.

They don't, they owe on the order of 100k a year in taxes depending on write-offs which will never make them immune, not even close.

The middle class, and especially the rich already carry a much larger burden of taxation in the US.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:26 PM   #29629 (permalink)
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That picture is very fitting. At least in my family, and many of my friends, after a long night of trick or treating, and having a pillowcase or 2 filled with candy, more than half of it of ends up being thrown out because its just too much candy. Much like rich people throwing out excess cash ($10k handbags, $300k cars, $3.5mill houses, whatever else unnecessary purchases they make).

So while some kids are unlucky to be in a bad neighborhood and work real hard and get hardly any candy, the rich kids who happen to be in a nice part of town get tons of candy and throw most of it away, and whine if someone tells them to share.

Very fitting indeed.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:32 PM   #29630 (permalink)
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That picture is very fitting. At least in my family, and many of my friends, after a long night of trick or treating, and having a pillowcase or 2 filled with candy, more than half of it of ends up being thrown out because its just too much candy. Much like rich people throwing out excess cash ($10k handbags, $300k cars, $3.5mill houses, whatever else unnecessary purchases they make).

So while some kids are unlucky to be in a bad neighborhood and work real hard and get hardly any candy, the rich kids who happen to be in a nice part of town get tons of candy and throw most of it away, and whine if someone tells them to share.

Very fitting indeed.
I can see where this is going....
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:37 PM   #29631 (permalink)
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if only hard work actually yielded a proportional amount of pay.
You can bust rocks all day every day and not make a dime. It's not about hard work. It's about marketable skills (you know, the things that are useful to others) and tenacity. Every person that concentrates on building a marketable skill will be successful in the United States. Every person has access to services that build marketable skills. It's actually quite simple. If only they'd teach such wisdom in schools...
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:30 AM   #29632 (permalink)
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Never underestimate a person's addiction to stability over happiness.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:12 AM   #29633 (permalink)
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Never underestimate a person's addiction to stability over happiness.
Stability = happiness for me. Lexus instead of a Ford != happiness for me.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:37 AM   #29634 (permalink)
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So someone linked this achievement tonight in trade; I clicked it, glanced at it, closed it, then did a double take. My reaction was "Uhhh, what? Is this even possible?" I discussed it with my two roommates and we came to the conclusion that this is unbelievably absurd. In fact, so much so that you have better odds of winning the most difficult of difficult lotteries than pulling off this achievement.

None of us (I don't believe) knows the probability of getting a mask (as opposed to something other than a mask), but for these purposes I will say that it's 20%. I think that is a high estimate, but that will only help in making this clear.

If with every trick or treat visit we have [0.2 * X] chance of getting a mask and X = probability of attaining a new (one you don't already have) mask, then the math would be:
[0.2 * 20/20] * [0.2 * 19/20] * [0.2 *18/20] * ... and so on.

0.2 * 0.19 * 0.18 * 0.17 * 0.16 * 0.15 * 0.14 * 0.13 * 0.12 * 0.11 * 0.1 * 0.09 * 0.08 * 0.07 * 0.06 * 0.05 * 0.04 * 0.03 * 0.02 * 0.01 = 2.43290200817664x10^-22 (1 in 24329020081766400000000)

This would be the probability of pulling off the achievement in 20 trick or treats.

Now, in a childish attempt to find out the real probability of doing this within the 14 day duration of Halloween, I ask for your assistance. I do not know (with any confidence) how to do it. I was never very good at probability. 14 days = 336 hours = 336 trick or treats. I smell a deeeeeeerail!
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:53 AM   #29635 (permalink)
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And another edit :P The achievement itself is not that special. Above chances are what you have on getting it (or any other combo of 4 masks). Since the achievement states nothing about it being done in any order or with no other treats in between, you could very well achieve this over 20 tricks/treats.


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the achievement is to get 20/20 masks, not just 4. The person who linked it had 4 masks. The achievement is pretty much impossible and is being removed.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:05 AM   #29637 (permalink)
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the achievement is to get 20/20 masks, not just 4. The person who linked it had 4 masks. The achievement is pretty much impossible and is being removed.
That's just my status. I'm glad you read none of my post.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:07 AM   #29638 (permalink)
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And another edit :P The achievement itself is not that special. Above chances are what you have on getting it (or any other combo of 4 masks). Since the achievement states nothing about it being done in any order or with no other treats in between, you could very well achieve this over 20 tricks/treats.
I've got 8 or 9 atm, gave up when I saw they were removing it for the Hallowed meta achievement. It is kinda special since there is nothing preventing you from getting the same mask twice. Or 3 times. Fucking human female mask. And no, it's not anywhere near 20%. Over the course of the holiday, I'd be surprised if 10% were masks.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:52 AM   #29639 (permalink)
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:57 AM   #29640 (permalink)
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I'd elaborate on what I said since you obviously took it wrong, but I don't believe that you're stupid enough to not get what I was saying. The very next sentence qualifies the statement.

I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.

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