What do we expect from the Next Gen MMO's? - Page 2

lendarios · 10-01-2009, 08:36 AM

For comparison value the most users everquest had online according to the intraweb was over 100k. Keep that in mind for comparison values.

EverQuest Experiences a Record Number of Simultaneous Players | BestStuff

Dalate · 10-01-2009, 10:16 AM

Best Raiding Game, Wow? Arguable...it's definitly has more complex encounters then lets say eq and could understand that but although people talk mad shit about the "immersiveness"...I can honestly say that eq raiding for me was the best.

Reason:It felt like I was the one killing Fennin vs. feeling like someone playing a toon that was killing Onxyia.

not so oddly enough it doesn't give me the same adrenaline boost I was so addicted to.

AladainAF · 10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Some originality would be nice. The "Let me be a fucking weak ass lazy ass developer and copy wow" garbage I could do without.

Hatorade · 10-01-2009, 10:21 AM

Penis

Dalate · 10-01-2009, 10:25 AM

I dont even think WoW's downfall will be from Blizzards hands. I believe there will be a point in time when there are so many WoW clones out there that no one is going to want to fucking play anything remotely close to WoW..I've been passed that point.

Shit, I'd rather play on the WoW emulator thats pretty much up to date with the latest xpac for free then give money to those fucking lazy ass WoW clone developers..this also holds true with Blizzard and their 20 month+ xpac release calander.

bofa · 10-01-2009, 10:26 AM

need more of this..

Aamina · 10-01-2009, 10:28 AM

Sorry to break the trend and be on-topic:

EQ2's broker functionality. Its got it all there.
Appearance slots. No excuse to not have this.
Aion's art. Enough 13 polygon models.

Ninen · 10-01-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tullaeniel

Then you run into how to you get to your friend in Sol A - 14 and you're in Sol A - 37.

People always bring this up. But its really a non-issue. Have a tutorial quest, or a loading screen tip or something. Hell even just you chatting with your friend is likely to solve it naturally.

"I'm here, where are you?"
"I'm by the house"
"So am I. Look fuckwad dearest, where exactly is you?"
"Shut up shit for brains. I'm at x3423 y3453 in Sol-A 14"
"Ahh ok. I'm in Sol-A 37. Let me jump over."

lendarios · 10-01-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalate

Best Raiding Game, Wow? Arguable...it's definitly has more complex encounters then lets say eq and could understand that but although people talk mad shit about the "immersiveness"...I can honestly say that eq raiding for me was the best.

Reason:It felt like I was the one killing Fennin vs. feeling like someone playing a toon that was killing Onxyia.

not so oddly enough it doesn't give me the same adrenaline boost I was so addicted to.

What does this has to do with anything?

Daezuel · 10-01-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bofa

need more of this..

Looks like someone is getting a virtual enema. (she's even cupping the balls, what a sweetheart)

Usha Starchild · 10-01-2009, 11:34 AM

bacon

Itzena · 10-01-2009, 11:37 AM

What do people expect?

Too much.

tomodachi · 10-01-2009, 12:12 PM

The next big evolution in fantasy MMOs will borrow heavily from EvE:

- Classless; passive skill advancement, no limit to career options.
- Equipment; selects skills in use, equalizing old and new players.
- Economy; regional complexity in which players can sink or swim.
- Sandbox; the ability of players to alter the world in which they play.
- Population; large populations on few servers. Reputations matter.

...and then they need to integrate meaningful PvE along with the fantasy staples most would expect to find in a fantasy MMO ( dwarves, elves, etc. ). The biggest change, though, is a move away from increasingly powerful items as a measure of your success in a game to achievements within the sandbox. Fostering an environment where getting a specific drop is less important than collectively holding some resource hub with your guild (as an example) is important to the growth of the genre.

Thaxon · 10-01-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Troll

How about we stop anticipating the "Next Gen" MMO and try and get the current gen developers to make smart choices, first?

We've got to get the now-gen right before we work on next-gen. Releasing non-Bliz games in a finished state would be a step in the right direction. I have no faith in this genre moving forward until this happens.

Jaded · 10-01-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomodachi

The next big evolution in fantasy MMOs will borrow heavily from EvE:

- Classless; passive skill advancement, no limit to career options.
- Equipment; selects skills in use, equalizing old and new players.
- Economy; regional complexity in which players can sink or swim.
- Sandbox; the ability of players to alter the world in which they play.
- Population; large populations on few servers. Reputations matter.

...and then they need to integrate meaningful PvE along with the fantasy staples most would expect to find in a fantasy MMO ( dwarves, elves, etc. ). The biggest change, though, is a move away from increasingly powerful items as a measure of your success in a game to achievements within the sandbox. Fostering an environment where getting a specific drop is less important than collectively holding some resource hub with your guild (as an example) is important to the growth of the genre.

So... you want UO2. Join the club.

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10-01-2009, 10:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Dalate Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 73 -17 Internets	Best Raiding Game, Wow? Arguable...it's definitly has more complex encounters then lets say eq and could understand that but although people talk mad shit about the "immersiveness"...I can honestly say that eq raiding for me was the best. Reason:It felt like I was the one killing Fennin vs. feeling like someone playing a toon that was killing Onxyia. not so oddly enough it doesn't give me the same adrenaline boost I was so addicted to.

10-01-2009, 10:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dalate Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 73 -17 Internets	I dont even think WoW's downfall will be from Blizzards hands. I believe there will be a point in time when there are so many WoW clones out there that no one is going to want to fucking play anything remotely close to WoW..I've been passed that point. Shit, I'd rather play on the WoW emulator thats pretty much up to date with the latest xpac for free then give money to those fucking lazy ass WoW clone developers..this also holds true with Blizzard and their 20 month+ xpac release calander.

10-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Still in China Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,437	bacon

10-01-2009, 12:12 PM	#28 (permalink)
tomodachi Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 171 +0 Internets	The next big evolution in fantasy MMOs will borrow heavily from EvE: - Classless; passive skill advancement, no limit to career options. - Equipment; selects skills in use, equalizing old and new players. - Economy; regional complexity in which players can sink or swim. - Sandbox; the ability of players to alter the world in which they play. - Population; large populations on few servers. Reputations matter. ...and then they need to integrate meaningful PvE along with the fantasy staples most would expect to find in a fantasy MMO ( dwarves, elves, etc. ). The biggest change, though, is a move away from increasingly powerful items as a measure of your success in a game to achievements within the sandbox. Fostering an environment where getting a specific drop is less important than collectively holding some resource hub with your guild (as an example) is important to the growth of the genre.