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Old 02-27-2009, 02:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It's really old. It really is. It was funny for a long time, but that time is over and it is now old and played out. Every fucking thread on this forum eventually devolves into Lumie bullshit. It needs to stop now.
I tend to agree, and I'll fully admit that I rise to his bait far too often. People like Lumie just piss me off to no end.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:21 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I have to agree with multiple people's previous posts in all the batshit-insane threads of Lumie:



Anytime he gets called out on his incredibly inane "theories", he fails to respond or disappears.

Why is he not banned yet? I feel like it's a mod/veteran poster who's friends with mods that's been getting his troll-itch out for awhile.
That would be true, except he didn't originate on this forum, I knew him back when he played on Sullon Zek forever ago, and he was a retard then too.
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:33 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I see these Lumie threads and people complaining about them, but the fact you post on these thread, even with complaints, just keeps Lumie posting cause he knows he will get a rise of you...

wait... isn't that trolling?
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:41 PM   #64 (permalink)
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See, I can't wrap my head around this concept.

Might makes right - simple as that. The U.S. is the might, and Israel is our little buddy over in the mid-east, so how can legality even factor in?

That's like saying our our invasion of Iraq was illegal. Claiming illegality is meaningless without the power to back it up.

The U.N. doesn't have that power, we do. So, we do what we like.

Simple as that.

Amirite?
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:21 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I see these Lumie threads and people complaining about them, but the fact you post on these thread, even with complaints, just keeps Lumie posting cause he knows he will get a rise of you...

wait... isn't that trolling?
I do believe you're on to something.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:35 PM   #66 (permalink)
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I see these Lumie threads and people complaining about them, but the fact you post on these thread, even with complaints, just keeps Lumie posting cause he knows he will get a rise of you...

wait... isn't that trolling?
Yes, we're all well aware that it is trolling. Trolling is great and all, but his shtick is tired and played out and just not funny anymore. Lumie says crazy shit. Lots of people laugh at him. A few people cheer him on. Maybe a couple even get caught in the trap and defend Lumie. MAYBE those people are trolling. MAYBE IT'S ALL A BIG META-TROLL. OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB.

Repeat x1000.

No. It was funny the first hundred times. Now it's annoying. I can't control other people responding to him, and you're going to constantly have newer members who aren't familiar with his antics. Don't try to blame us for him hijacking this entire goddamn section of the forums, stop acting like we just don't get it, and fucking ban him already. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:10 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Yes, we're all well aware that it is trolling. Trolling is great and all, but his shtick is tired and played out and just not funny anymore. Lumie says crazy shit. Lots of people laugh at him. A few people cheer him on. Maybe a couple even get caught in the trap and defend Lumie. MAYBE those people are trolling. MAYBE IT'S ALL A BIG META-TROLL. OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB.

Repeat x1000.
It's like that movie Pi. Maybe if we let him stay long enough, he'll reveal the name of God.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:08 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I see these Lumie threads and people complaining about them, but the fact you post on these thread, even with complaints, just keeps Lumie posting cause he knows he will get a rise of you...

wait... isn't that trolling?
And are you trolling some of us, right now?

There have been other trolls, obvious trolls, and the only real reason it isn't an out-of-control problem is that they were reined in. My question is, why hasn't Lumie? Lumie might argue "Hey I'm just putting out my opinion", but it's a matter of putting out his opinion, ad nauseum, creating threads and hijacking threads with 'his opinion' at every opportunity, simply to troll everyone. I'm sure you won't deny it, I'm fairly certain that few would. The only difference I've seen is that Lumie seems fairly careful not to do anything too obviously deserving a ban, other than maybe a crass insult of someones health (that still didn't earn him a permaban). He is still able to use his favorite device - espousing his crazy notions, while at the same time insulting the intelligence of everyone who questions his 'facts' - and it works. It's a powerful thing, and no one should be surprised that he hits a nerve with readers as often as he does, imo.

It isn't a mystery, yet I get the impression that he has curried some form of unspoken approval here from the powers that be. There are a number of other people who would have been banned long before if they had been in Lumie's shoes, yet here sits Lumie, still baiting everyone week after week. Yes, obvious troll is obvious, but beyond that, expecting people not to be drawn in on occasion is ludicrous, especially given the number of times Lumie does this, plus combined with the sheer amount of traffic here. Lumie is casting his lure into a rather crowded pond, and he is casting it often. He is going to get nibbles, he is goin to get bites, it is unavoidable. Not to mention that Lumie IS known as a troll at this point, but that won't make it better. Personally I think it is going to be MORE likely that people are going get riled when they know that this is all an act, and they are going to be more likely to step into the ring with Lumie on any given subject, whenever some assertion of Lumies hits a nerve.

If it is ok for Lumie to continue his obvious troll act, than how do you think I feel about being expected to not respond to Lumie at all, to completely avoid responses and to not get angry when Lumie inevitably turns yet another thread topic into the worlds greatest thread derail? If Lumie needs only to make sure that he doesn't go too far and then continue to post at will, then I sure as shit am not going to log on, read one of his threads, and then sit here feeling like I am the bad man, and not respond. I'm not the problem here, Lumie is, and I am not going to police myself MORE than he does, simply so the 'Lumie' problem doesn't come up. If Lumie gets to run amok, then why can't others flame him and bitch about his not being banned? Hell, at this point his SHIT is so old, tired, and annoying to read, then why not let people garner at least a paucity of satisfaction in ripping him to shreds? Because, tbh, nothing is going to be done with him, as such he will continue to post his trolling shit, and people are naturally going to continue being unhappy with him and you'll get the reactions that people have been having.

You may have been saying that tongue-in-cheek, but the entire Lumie issue is a fucking joke.
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I've been wondering if Satan is the evil brother of Osiris known as Set who kills Osiris inorder to usurp the throne who Horus then ends up killing. And since Horus is also Jesus, this would make alot of sense with the whole connection between Satan and Jesus and his ability to undo the work of the devil. What do you guys think? Perhaps you can see more connections then I.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:33 AM   #69 (permalink)
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The last time (which has been 3 times total now) I banned him, people yelled at me because they think he's funny. I seem to get lashed if I ban him, and again if I don't. I personally think he's entertaining but more-so in doses. My main concerns with him is the excessive name calling, which I will explain better below.

If you want to call eachother douchebags, retards, etc. that's fine as long as you limit them to exclude racial slurs or something that offends a lot of people, and it would be nice if you'd try not to use every name in the book in one single post. Lumie has, in several posts, called a single person up 12 names in a ONE post and to top it off, sometimes insists on increasing the font size for emphasis (or something). [I tried to find good examples to quote but since every other post opens with an insult, it's going to take too much time]

If he wants to argue or get crazy, super - but I don't find it necessary to act like a (bigger) maniac in the process and start calling everyone stupid-fucking, cock-sucking, retarded, idiotic, bastard, cancer-loving, Jesus-hating, wastes of air, who deserve to die. He's obviously well versed in 'crazy' and is highly knowledgeable of some things that actually hold some ground (some =/= many).

I sent a PM "Final Warning" 2 days ago in which he responded insinuating I was a "hypocrite". I asked him politely to cut back on the excessive attacks/name calling.

I personally feel a lot of people do enjoy reading his posts, much like the posts from the guy who talked to grass and sang to trees. Having that said, I think limiting access to this blessed area would be an ideal solution. It's probably best left up to someone else because I'm a bit biased on the issue, I've had a 'beef' with Lumie ever since the Zeste fiasco which I thought was uncalled for and downright tasteless. I can't force my morals on others, if I could - I'd find him and smack his filthy mouth!

For what it's worth, I do understand it's hard to ignore people who are frequently quoted and replied to and also tend to infect many threads that would have otherwise remained civil (or contained more sanity).

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Old 02-28-2009, 11:09 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I said what I did about Zeste's dad because Zeste and a lot of other people defend those that are truly responsible for his death on top of giving them 500,000$ and you wanna be mad at me for pointing this out. I'm not the one who killed him and yet instead of taking my side and be logical, everyone acts like I'm the murderer. Man I seriously wish I was an super evil fucking doctor and I get to poison and kill people while making shit loads of money while being looked at like some sort of fucking hero while the people trying to expose my bullshit get ridiculed and laughed at and threatened.

And you seriously wonder why I call you a bunch of fucking idiots?
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:12 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I said what I did about Zeste's dad because Zeste and a lot of other people defend those that are truly responsible for his death on top of giving them 500,000$ and you wanna be mad at me for pointing this out. I'm not the one who killed him and yet instead of taking my side and be logical, everyone acts like I'm the murderer. Man I seriously wish I was an super evil fucking doctor and I get to poison and kill people while making shit loads of money while being looked at like some sort of fucking hero while the people trying to expose my bullshit get ridiculed and laughed at and threatened.

And you seriously wonder why I call you a bunch of fucking idiots?
I still don't understand what about this type of stuff is funny.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:17 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I said what I did about Zeste's dad because Zeste and a lot of other people defend those that are truly responsible for his death on top of giving them 500,000$ and you wanna be mad at me for pointing this out. I'm not the one who killed him and yet instead of taking my side and be logical, everyone acts like I'm the murderer. Man I seriously wish I was an super evil fucking doctor and I get to poison and kill people while making shit loads of money while being looked at like some sort of fucking hero while the people trying to expose my bullshit get ridiculed and laughed at and threatened.

And you seriously wonder why I call you a bunch of fucking idiots?
Just out of curiosity...what do you do for a living? Other than defending freedom on the internets.
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Do you realize how many people have been murdered over it? I can tell you with 100% certainty that not only have we never been to the moon but we don't possess the ability to do so even to this day.

Look up Gus Grissom who was suppose to be Niel Armstrong but was murdered, along with his crew, because they refused to go along with the conspiracy. Not to mention the hundreds of other facts that prove beyond doubt that the moon landings were staged.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Just out of curiosity...what do you do for a living? Other than defending freedom on the internets.
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I have absolutely zero training and my actual profession is playing poker.
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Um, more like I make the majority of my money from playing poker and don't need to work a "normal" job to make money.
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obviously not the fake money you fucking idiot ALL REAL $$ online casino's and/or poker sites are all rigged
I know this for a fact as I am a professional poker player irl
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I make a great deal of money but it involves poker.
Take from that what you will...
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:59 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Man tea on tuesday really is a shady fuck. The picture he posted of the side effects from colloidal silver are from someone who claimed they have a colloidal silver ADDICTION.



fiction and the fact that they're performing a holocaust on the Palestinian people should be enough proof that the holocaust is a lie because theres no way that people who went through what they did would turn around and do the same thing to another group of completely innocent people
hahaha, holy shit.

You are one loopy fucking cunt, aren't you?
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