Kiting is sploiting

[Aldarion_Shard]

Aldous,

im actually speechless. there are no flames worthy of your stupidity. i bow before your truly awe inspiring lack of logical ability.

[Aldous]

a) def'n of sploit: using something in game (spell, pathing, skill) in a way not intended in order to give yourself an advantage

b) snare was not intended as a method to mitigate 100% of a mob's damage output. (as evidenced by the snare/dot damage nerf, the unsnarable/unrootable flags added to mobs, the summoning ability added to more mobs, various zone nerfs to discourage quadding like in the grey).

if A and B are true then kiting is a sploit, which do you disagree with?

[Elowyn]

OMG nerf root b/c it allows you to do dmg and not get hit
OMG nerf sow/soe b/c it allows you to outrun mobs and not take dmg
OMG nerf fear for dmg mitigation reasons
Please rickshaw this before I die laughing at the lack of intelligence of the poster. STFU U R A dumbass

[Samus Aran]

selo's must also be an exploit - and it costs even less than snare!

[Samus Aran]

a 100% mitigation. it can be, but it in and of itself isn't. So SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Physics Theory]

Hmmm... yes....

[Samus Aran]

needs sent to the Rickshaw, where it will become Defensive Practice v2.0 in terms of Gayness

[Samus Aran]

and i think the kiting nerf on dot damage is evidence that VI didn't intend for snare to be used this way

Guess what, dipshit? They took away that nerf a few months ago. Dots do full damage now. So... uh, it's not a sploit if SOE deems it good and does nothing about it.

[Aldous]

Snare isn't.. a 100% mitigation. it can be, but it in and of itself isn't. So SHUT THE FUCK UP

did i say snare is an exploit? no i said kiting is, pathing problems aren't exploits, using them to give yourself an unfair advantage is

can you understand the difference?

[Aldous]

Guess what, dipshit? They took away that nerf a few months ago. Dots do full damage now. So... uh, it's not a sploit if SOE deems it good and does nothing about it

no, they just realized that the technique is so ridiculously powerful that nobody bothers snare/dotting one mob anymore, they snare/ae mobs 4 at a time, which is more evidence to the fact that something's wrong with kiting

[Samus Aran]

SOE doesn't consider it an exploit or they would be banning every one right and left. It's that simple you stupid fuck.

[Maegril]

Originally posted by Aldous
isn't a def'n of a sploit to use a spell in a manner not intended in order to benefit yourself? iirc this is almost the defintion that VI gave in regards to COH aggro clearing during the conquest incident.

Main Entry: 2ex·ploit
Pronunciation: ik-'sploit, 'ek-"
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1838
1 : to make productive use of : UTILIZE
2 : to make use of meanly or unjustly for one's own advantage

You're trying to argue that snare is definition 2. It can equally be argued that snare is definition 1. Certainly kiting is using snare productively. It's all a matter of degree. Ultimately, kiting utilizes snare to lower some risk. The same actions could be taken without snare, it would just be more risky. If using one's abilities to keep the monster from killing you is an exploit, I think we're pretty much all in trouble.

[Velael]

Why does God let people this stupid be born?

[Durnitol]

Read between the lines guys. This person is likely a shaman (like myself) who is trying to prove a point about Thott's "findings". Snare clearly is not an exploit and not a massive overpowering ability over other classes. It's ability to function properly when kiting (aka soloing) is dependent upon factors already mentioned in this thread.

-Does the mob summon?
-Limitation of effectiveness (enclosed areas, multiple aggros)
-interrupts, fizzles, resists?
-Does the HP(time to kill) of the mob completely degrade the value of soloing it?

I think the original poster is making a comment and how useless those simulations are when applied to reality.

[Physics Theory]

Durnitol, while I wish that was the goal of the original post was to provide a commentary on thott's simulations, every subsequent post by Aldous has shown that he actually is either:

a) a troll, or
b) purely an idiot.