MMO Apathy

[Duppin]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

EQ NOSTALGIA? VHEX SMASH!

People get tired of video games, who knew.

I feel no need to interject further.

Yeah, we'll see if you stick to that! I give it about two pages.

In all seriousness though; I'm not burned out on games in general. I still play lots of sports games, some shooters, and the occasional RPG. I'm on an older games kick right now, I'm actually playing through System Shock 2 since I never got all the way through it.

It's just the MMO model that bores me now; I can't grind anymore, no matter how much a company tries to make the mechanics of grinding interesting.

Half an hour of it and I'm done and my finger is hovering over the uninstall button.

[nu_11]

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pssst: OP is a fag.

[Simas]

The reason people wanted to log into EQ was it was a community. Its the same reason people have been coming to FoH for years.

EQ had shitty mechanics and ass spawn camping but that you dealt with because the community was fun. The drama, your friends, your enemies.

WoW and beyond have fixed alot of the shitty mechanics but lost the community. The only people that want to log in anymore are people in close knit guilds comprised of friends. Most guilds are not that.

Playing wow is like playing halo on live. Everyone hates the other mother fuckers on live and if you're not playing with a group of friends or you're not the best theres no reason to keep playing after you've seen what there is to see.

[spronk]

I never played EQ, was too busy in college at that time and then first job marriage yadda yadda. Wow was my first MMO, joined a cool guild when I first started, everyone was a noob and we ran MC in blues and wiped non stop for weeks. It was fun for a while, cool people to hangout with but it slowly got to the point where it felt like a job, not a video game. Like if I didn't log in the next day, I'd be "letting down" my guild and shit because a raid was scheduled or PVP or whatever.

After that I quit the game for a while, go back every now and then and play WoW more or less like a single player game with chat. I'll resub for a few months, join some random ass guild, play for a while, then quit for a few months. Seen every single raid zone in pugs including Sunwell (just first boss though), have a lot of fun in WoW just doing stupid shit like the auction house, getting pets, dailies, running instances, arena, or joining the trade Anal [] spam.

I really don't understand how people view their guilds as their best friends or stay in vent all the time (i fucking hate vent), with the exception of the few guilds that meet IRL all the time or that have had members that all know each other and have been together for years, its puzzling to me how so many people claim friendships online. End of the day, at my stage in life (married house car bills all that shit) i just consider MMOs a better form of entertainment than TV, and only play when I have nothing else to do. usually in the daytime as well, since evenings are for family. But never scheduled anymore, fuck that "ok gaiz show up at 7pm tonite ok!? We need your commitment!"

[Penalty]

I just play console games now or mess around on d2 here and there for fun.. Last time I tried to play eq/eq2/wow I felt like I was at work.

[Cad]

Originally Posted by spronk

End of the day, at my stage in life (married house car bills all that shit) i just consider MMOs a better form of entertainment than TV, and only play when I have nothing else to do. usually in the daytime as well, since evenings are for family. But never scheduled anymore, fuck that "ok gaiz show up at 7pm tonite ok!? We need your commitment!"

amen.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by spronk

I never played EQ

epic failure.

EQ is the only MMO I think fondly of. Good mechanics, right time, tons of adventure, lot of unknown factor. Also a very surreal world. The EQ world was by far the epitome of high fantasy. This can't be stressed enough. EQ had amazing world design. WoW? uhhh yeah what genre is that?....

Its not rose colored glasses. A lot of the direction things went in was bad for the MMO community. And no, im not referring to long spawn camps at all.

[c8fe]

I played eq from release till pop where I lost the urge to play. I was hardcore for almost all of that because I was in middle and high school and had shit for commitments. The reason I'm nostalgic about eq in all honesty is like everyone said the community that forced you to interact. There was no forgiveness in eq for loner players because offhand only 3 classes could really solo at more then a snails pace all the way to 70. On top of that with no carebear instancing there was insane amounts of drama and competition. When you had to log in at server resets to claim aary first in ntov it may have sucked but there was still a driving force that made it interesting. There was never bullshit like raid caps and having to many of one class. If you were online you were invited because every body was essential for how poorly encounters were tuned. There were never harsh feelings over invites and other bullshit if you wanted to do a 100 person hate raid you could go ahead. This created community because it forced people to interact. The mechanics of it sucked sometimes but I still loved logging in because there was solid progression with plenty of time to talk and bullshit while camping emperor or ntov after a reset. Most of all though The reason I enjoyed it was because getting items at that point in the game made you unique you weren't the 47th guild to get the unique of the day. I realize with current populations in games like wow instancing is essential but in my eyes if something killed community in games it was instancing which basically created no hostility or competition and instead catered to the carebear.

[NativityInBlack]

It's been said, daily even, but with a decent AAxp wouldn't WoW be like the new EQ?

Even when I was busy was hell if I could log in and grind one AA on a given time I felt alright about the game.

Being only able to progress after awhile thro gear, and by having those upgrades only by either arenas (not that fun?) or raids, kills the game if you play even casually but for a long time.

I'm personally playing nothing, AoC level cap (nothing else to see there imho), waiting for WAR I guess or WotLK like everyone else. Anything else we should wait? Champions online?

[Arakkis]

The people. I had a fantastic guild in WoW and if RL hadn't intruded I would still be raiding with them. If you are happy in a guild gets you your 1337 perplz, then yay for you. For me, the great group of people I raided with is what kept me in long after the novelty of the game wore off.

[jayrebb]

Name another majorly successful high fantasy MMO. You can't because EQ is the only one. EQ2 only did half the numbers.

WoW is not high fantasy. And neither was Vanguard for that matter (you can make a strong case, but I will be more than happy to tell you why Vanguard was not high fantasy.

Whats on the horizon for high fantasy? 38 Studios and...........nothing. So yeah be checking on Curt Shillings game, thats about it.

Its amazing how fast high fantasy was discarded and left for dead. Sony is foolish for thinking it was a dead-end market after the EQ2 mediocre performance. I think they are making a huge mistake by not taking back over the high fantasy market.

edit: some dipshit won't state his case for why all MMO's should be considered high fantasy. Why don't you come out anonymous doucher and explain to everyone why all MMOs are considered high fantasy. This should be a good one. 3 high fantasy MMOs: EQ, EQ2, LOTRO. Now tell me your definition of high fantasy and why anyone should add any other MMOs to that list?

I know why you left an anonymous comment instead of explaining what the "real" definition of high fantasy is. Its because you don't have a fucking clue.

[voodoochile78]

High fantasy involves magic, and faggoty elf or elf-like races.

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Originally Posted by voodoochile78

High fantasy involves magic, and faggoty elf or elf-like races.

jayrebb, exactly how is VG NOT high fantasy?

I'm glad that queer shit was discarded. We have too much fantasy as it is, why the fuck would you want to overdose on it with another high fantasy game. But then again, it might just be because I'm not interested in the atmospheres EQ, LotR, or VG.

Let's hope 38 studios can pump out a good game. For their sake, for high fantasy's sake, and for MMO gamers' sakes.

[Gaereth]

I played EQ from 99 till WOW late beta. The only reason I stuck with EQ so long was my guild.

I could care less about the other people on the server, they could all disappear and it wouldn't mean anything to me. My guild, the family and friends it encompasses, were the only reason to play.

Same guild, same officers, majority of the same people are still playing together today. Everyone is a RL friend with someone else in the guild and its been that way from the start.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by spronk

I really don't understand how people view their guilds as their best friends

this is why you don't understand:

I never played EQ